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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

I'll explain later, for now let's just determine whether Melt Slash is at the speed of light. If Melt Slash is accepted as the speed of light, I'll redo these two calculations if necessary.
It is in my opinion, for what I wrote.
but i haven’t checked the raw so the fiability is relative.
 
🤨
Can you find the raws of these parts?
Volume 7 part :

On hinata melt-slash :
話は纏まったようだ── とヒナタも周囲を見回してそう思った疲弊した部下達が見えるが思ったよりも丁寧に扱われている捕虜に対する虐待なども厳しく制限されているのだろう

(そうね君の人となりを最初から信じられれば良かったわね)

今更だがそう思った
だがまだ手遅れではない
このまま勝負に勝ち新たな関係を築くのだ

ヒナタは高揚する気分をそのまま祈りに込めるように涼やかな声で詠唱を開始する

本当は必要ないのだがリムルに見せておきたいと思ったのだどうせ盗まれるのならば完璧なものを伝えたいと

発動させるのはディスインテグレション霊子崩壊だそしてその力は空いているヒナタの左手へと収束し強くまば眩ゆい光を放つ

輝く粒子が飛び交い幻想的な光景が現出した
そしてヒナタはその光をムンライト月光の細剣の刀身へと纏わせる

── 左手でそっと刀身を撫でるようにして
これで準備は整った
最強の魔法を剣技に込める
この剣技に斬れぬものなし
さあ覚悟はいいかな?
来い!
行くわ── メルトスラッシュ 崩魔霊子斬!!
そしてヒナタは光となってリムルへと迫る

眩しい光
剣閃ではなくヒナタの身体まで光ったのだ

輝く粒子を纏い人の身を超越した速度で迫るヒナタ俺の予想を超える凄まじい速度である

その剣はあらゆる魔を討ち払う破邪の性質を帯びていた
告防御不能回避不能── ッ
!!

ラファエル智慧之王の焦ったような警報を初めて聞いた
百万倍に引き伸ばされた知覚速度でもその光は普通に俺に迫って来る

異常なまでの速度である証拠だった
この距離この角度とタイミング

ヒナタの狙いは俺の胴体から下頭さえ残せば俺が死なないと判断したのだろう

しかしヒナタに俺を殺すつもりがないのだとしてもこの技は危険過ぎた

回避は不可能であり多重結界は意味を成さずあの光は全ての物質を崩壊させる霊子── 破邪の光を放っている触れた瞬間に俺の身を焼き尽くすだろう

告アルティメットスキル究極能力ベルゼビュト暴食之王を犠牲にして相殺する策を進言します

The rest is on volume 11 :
華麗な剣でグランベルを翻弄するレナード。的確な読みで、レナードに合わせるアルノー。そんな二人を、適切にサポートするリティス。普通なら、この三名の攻撃だけで勝負は決まる。だがしかし、グランベルには余裕があった。


そして不気味な事に、グランベルはニコラウスの詠唱を邪魔するでもなく、手本のように流麗な動きで三人の相手を行っている。

その表情に焦りはなく、三人の攻めに汗一つ流さない。格が違う──というのが、正直な感想だった。

ニコラウスの詠唱が、最後の一節を残すのみとなった。ニコラウスの詠唱による世界への干渉で、せき積そう層型魔法陣が展開されていく。呪文でお織りなされた光のろう牢ごく獄の中心、たい泰ぜん然とたたず佇むのはグランベルだ。

〝ディスインティグレーション霊 子 崩 壊〟が完成してしまえば、その閃光を防ぐ術などない。光速という絶対的な速度で、対象を魂までも打ち砕くのみ。そのはずだった。

しかし、その常識はくつがえ覆 される。

「ふむ、なかなか良い詠唱だったな。魔法の流れを読み取るには、これ以上にないほどにのう」

グランベルが酷く冷たい声で言う。その発言は、教師が生徒に行うような上からのものだった。

そして──それを聞いたヒナタが、表情をあお青ざ褪めさせて「まさか……」と呟いた。何かに気付いたようだが、それをニコラウスに伝える時間はない。

「死になさい、ディスインテグレーション霊 子 崩 壊!!」

放たれる閃光。それは真っすぐにグランベルへと向かい──突如、その軌道を変えてグランベルの手にする剣へと吸い込まれる。時間にして刹那の出来事。それを認識するには、百万倍に加速された知覚能力をもってしても困難だった。

しかし、俺には理解出来た。今、何が起きたのかを……。

なぜならば、俺は既に、その技を見た事があったのである。

オ ー バ ー ブ レ イ ド超絶聖剣技:メ ル ト ス ラ ッ シ ュ 崩魔霊子斬──ヒナタが編み出した、最強の奥義だ。

「──散開ッ!!」

ヒナタの檄に、レナード達が反応する。実力者らしく見事な動きだが、遅い。
グランベルがメ ル ト ス ラ ッ シ ュ 崩魔霊子斬をな薙いだ。それだけで、おうぎ扇状に衝撃が走り抜けたのである。

ヒナタはその一瞬に駆け抜けて、ニコラウスの前でグランベルの剣を受け止めていた。凄い動きだと感心するが、それだけではグランベルの攻撃を防ぎきれてはいなかった。メ ル ト ス ラ ッ シ ュ 崩魔霊子斬を真正面から受けたヒナタ自身、吹き飛ばされてニコラウスに衝突している。ヒナタは無事だが、ニコラウスの方は重傷だな。

ヒナタの剣がレ ジ ェ ン ド伝説級たるム ー ン ラ イ ト月光の細剣ではなかったら、二人纏めて消滅していただろう。

そして、レナード達三人も、余波だけで吹き飛ばされ、倒れ伏す。今の一撃だけで気絶しているようだ。
 
So... How do we scale abyss of hell?
It depends. If it emanates endlessly to collapse the entire world faster than the speed of light, it makes it seem like a universe destroying feat especially since it grows endlessly though faster than light doesn't give the actual indication of it's speed relative to the expansion of space.
 
It depends. If it emanates endlessly to collapse the entire world faster than the speed of light, it makes it seem like a universe destroying feat especially since it grows endlessly though faster than light doesn't give the actual indication of it's speed relative to the expansion of space.
I've seen discussion about it today. If that void is endless, expands at certain speed and hell do have own depth, wouldn't it mean hell is infinite in size?

On one hand some things may direct to that assumption, but on other hand nothingness should be aspatial, right? If underworld is opposite of living world, it should lack physicalness.
 
I've seen discussion about it today. If that void is endless, expands at certain speed and hell do have own depth, wouldn't it mean hell is infinite in size?

On one hand some things may direct to that assumption, but on other hand nothingness should be aspatial, right? If underworld is opposite of living world, it should lack physicalness.
I would assume the demon world would be as it hasn't been described as a finite source. With hell, I don't know the standards of aspatial places and what their properties would be compared to a incorporeal place.
In my opinion, Id say that it is aspatial in the abyss and the deeper parts of it but not in the places where the lesser demons spawn.
 
Oh yeah, Verse downgrade :/
don't respond until later since the OP is sleeping.
I will be sleeping as well so don't expect an immediate response to the post.
 
Oh yeah, Verse downgrade :/
don't respond until later since the OP is sleeping.
I will be sleeping as well so don't expect an immediate response to the post.
At this point this wiki is barely even worth following for scaling for this series beyond sunk cost and seeing how the shit-show trainwreck ends.
 
Oh yeah, Verse downgrade :/
don't respond until later since the OP is sleeping.
I will be sleeping as well so don't expect an immediate response to the post.
That's just for the LN right? Not the WN
 
Oh yeah, Verse downgrade :/
don't respond until later since the OP is sleeping.
I will be sleeping as well so don't expect an immediate response to the post.
ok do your thing
 
Some of ya'll have to relax in that thread. Not gonna say names cause it's likely more than obvious to yourselves who is and who isn't nearing on doing too much, but like, GENUINELY.

I cannot be the only one noticing it. One up to maybe three of you guys are handling yourselves fine, but what is up??? Like actually???
 
Yeah, sorry. I will try to be less aggressive next time. My bad. Mom always told me I have anger issues.
 
Yeah, sorry. I will try to be less aggressive next time. My bad. Mom always told me I have anger issues.
You didn't even feel aggressive to me nor did I think you were-? But the fact you decided to check any possibility of that in the future says a lot already.

It's sometimes where I wonder who really cares about Tensura like that because it's a lot of weird and odd vibes, some do and try to not be hasty, some look as if they still cherish the Tier 1 days and would rather worry more about that than even the little things (and probably think astrals tls weren't that bad for all I could know), and lastly there's those like the first of the three but have an odd pent up level of anger. But I am aware there is good apples from the bad ones, and that love can be shown in multiple ways (for a series).

I want to see this verse do well but like it feels like there's such conflicting views amongst one another that I can't even tell if anyone gets along as I'd like to think they would 💔 where's the tight-knitness?
 
You didn't even feel aggressive to me nor did I think you were-? But the fact you decided to check any possibility of that in the future says a lot already.
It was a joke, but I guess it failed 💔

I am somewhere in between. I don't really care for high tiers and making Rimuru the god of everything. Him soloing Goku is enough to me to be satisfied. i came here to listen to people and find the most accurate scaling. VSBW is different from other sites because things here are checked and discussed. Well, not always that works, because characters like Gamma 1 and 2 has toon force as hax, when it was clearly shown they use holograms, but anyway. However as much as I don't like wanking with no reason just to get a high number, I also don't like downplaying literally everything to the lowest possible interpretation. Calling Cardinal World a planet? Really? Fuse clearly uses "world" for many things and assigning only one meaning to this word is pointless. Especially when we are using OTL as proof. Same OTL that called Clayman's mansion as Diablo's mansion, or can't even decide if they should write "Time Line" or "Timeline". Adding words, cutting off words, changing meaning of words... I almost envy MGK for having so good OTL that they can simply trust it and not check every single kanji. (I started reading it btw and its better than I expected. Anos' mama is the goat)

Anyway. I have a lot things to say about arguments in this downgrade and I disagree with large part of it. But I am not even close to a good scaler so I prefer to leave answers to people more knowledgeable and experienced than me. I don't want to say anything stupid and waste time of both sides when I don't even have raws or don't know what translations are confirmed by VSBW stuff.
 
I almost envy MGK for having so good OTL that they can simply trust it and not check every single kanji.
Oh boy.. we still do. There's specific portions and segments that somehow are either higher than they should or lesser so we still absolutely keep an eye out for those.
(I started reading it btw and its better than I expected. Anos' mama is the goat)
And that, she certainly is. (I could go on for an hour about the story and it's characters, and even how the abilities shown off within help amplify what's being told to the pages as if they have things to say).
 
Hey, I was wondering about this issue in RVT
(before Code's reply were deleted by Agnaa)
Given as far as I know, it used to be Apotheosis69 most of the time that translates Tensura (?) what happened to those translation now? Are they unusable or something??
 
Hey, I was wondering about this issue in RVT
(before Code's reply were deleted by Agnaa)
Given as far as I know, it used to be Apotheosis69 most of the time that translates Tensura (?) what happened to those translation now? Are they unusable or something??
We don't know if he was using MTL to everything. For safety we should retranslate his translations with more trusted translator. It may take a lot of time depending on how big part of our scans he translated. Anyone have a list or something?
 
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