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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

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What a sarcasm
 
Was there NOT an entire debacle on worlds and dimensions being the same and it was multiple translators on that...? What's with sticking to the one right now??? Being that opportunistic?
I don’t recall. Regardless it directly shows that they are two different things. And Since when was multiple translators needed (I did ask multiple but they didn’t answer)
 
I don’t recall. Regardless it directly shows that they are two different things. And Since when was multiple translators needed (I did ask multiple but they didn’t answer)
I assume he's referring to the world size debunk thread but good luck finding the specific posts cause that thread is huge
 
Because only the world was destroyed. The dimension that contains the world still exists.and dimensions have their own time axis. (Also how rimuru timetraveled)


Worlds and dimensions aren’t the same
Japanese is a language that heavily depends on context,the way the word dimensions is used in the verse can also simply imply spacetime,translators of the wiki are usually given a small potion of the whole thing
Also chloe's timetravel is totally different from rimuru's
 
Japanese is a language that heavily depends on context,the way the word dimensions is used in the verse can also simply imply spacetime,translators of the wiki are usually given a small potion of the whole thing
Also chloe's timetravel is totally different from rimuru's
Which isn’t really relevant here. Because the sentence I sent mentioned them simultaneously. It said that people were either from a different dimension or world.

Rimurus skill is based off Mai’s skill. But I don’t see how that is really relevant now that both Mai and Chloe’s skills evolved.as long as Chloe experiences it, then she can send her consciousness back and redo the situation.


i was saying that even that even though the world was destroyed, rimuru was able to timetravel due to dimension time axis
 
Volume 17 OT says "She could produce accurate space-time coordinates for herself within a single given timeline in the dimension she existed in - but that was simply the point where she existed at that moment in time, not even Cthugha's Dimension Leap ability let her make precise jumps."
There is a distinction between timelines and dimensions, in which there can be potentially many timelines in a dimension ("single given timeline"). This could mean that a world can hold multiple timelines or that worlds and dimensions are different and dimensions can potentially hold numerous worlds (timelines).
 
Volume 17 OT says "She could produce accurate space-time coordinates for herself within a single given timeline in the dimension she existed in - but that was simply the point where she existed at that moment in time, not even Cthugha's Dimension Leap ability let her make precise jumps."
There is a distinction between timelines and dimensions, in which there can be potentially many timelines in a dimension ("single given timeline"). This could mean that a world can hold multiple timelines or that worlds and dimensions are different and dimensions can potentially hold numerous worlds (timelines).
lmao.
 
Chloe sends her memories to the past while Rimuru Time travel is physically travelling himself. I wonder what headcanon are we talking about here.
She sends her mind back into the past (which is very likely her soul). Essentially astral projection.which if you read my comment i literally said that.i said that just like how rimuru was able to time travel from the dimensions timeline. Chloe can also use it to send her consciousness back into time. As her ability is
Experiencing it once and then going back to the past.she has multiple different abilities regardless.

She can physically timetravel and that is how timelines were explained as far as I can remember.
 
Also is it me or are there being circles run when saying veldanava scales to 2-A, Milim does and got an umbrella term of 'everybody'

Is that not what was trying to be AVOIDED, like??? Is it JUST me?
Except when it comes to this because apparently going off the rails and returning to a non-preferred form is all the rage apparently and is a GOOD IDEA. Was it astral who thought of that one?
 
Is the ******* empty talk over? Good then.

About the Current Speed Ratings

As can be understood from reading the comments to this calculation, @Agnaa thinks that there is no clear proof that Melt Slash (unlike the Disentegration) is at the speed of light. So unless there is no extra proof or argument presented that Melt Slash is at the speed of light, we need to give up on Hinata's "relavistic+" scaling and need to look at other feats.
Since both Hinata and Demon Lord Rimuru scale to each other, this calculation seems to be our best option for now.

Additionally, as can be seen from this calculation, Shizue's feat of dodging Rimuru's Black Lightning actually be accomplished at a much low speed than most people think, as the attack begins from the clouds. Therefore, MHS ratings currently on the profiles should also change.

If no one works on speed, these are the ratings the characters will have. Whether we do anything or not is up to us. I just wanted to say.
 
Is the ******* empty talk over? Good then.

About the Current Speed Ratings

As can be understood from reading the comments to this calculation, @Agnaa thinks that there is no clear proof that Melt Slash (unlike the Disentegration) is at the speed of light. So unless there is no extra proof or argument presented that Melt Slash is at the speed of light, we need to give up on Hinata's "relavistic+" scaling and need to look at other feats.
Since both Hinata and Demon Lord Rimuru scale to each other, this calculation seems to be our best option for now.

Additionally, as can be seen from this calculation, Shizue's feat of dodging Rimuru's Black Lightning actually be accomplished at a much low speed than most people think, as the attack begins from the clouds. Therefore, MHS ratings currently on the profiles should also change.

If no one works on speed, these are the ratings the characters will have. Whether we do anything or not is up to us. I just wanted to say.
Yeah I was about to bring up that black lightning stuff but didn't had time.
 
As can be understood from reading the comments to this calculation, @Agnaa thinks that there is no clear proof that Melt Slash (unlike the Disentegration) is at the speed of light. So unless there is no extra proof or argument presented that Melt Slash is at the speed of light, we need to give up on Hinata's "relavistic+" scaling and need to look at other feats.
Since both Hinata and Demon Lord Rimuru scale to each other, this calculation seems to be our best option for now.
As of volume 7 when hinata used melt slash :
« Not just the glint of her sword but her entire body »
« a glowing orb of light lunged for rimuru »
« even with my sense enhanced by a million fold the light looked like it was looking at regular speed »

Volume 11 when Granville stole Nicolaus disintegration for his melt slash (I suggest everyone to look for context not just what I have wrote and shown, as it is better for interpretation before answering) :
« It happened in an instant. Even with my perception accelerated a million times over, it was difficult to pinpoint. But I recognized exactly what happened-because I had witnessed it before. It was Overblade: Melslash »

If you look at the scan of volume 7 he made the same statement, claiming it to be difficult to pinpoint despite his senses.

Rimuru say basically the same things for both light speed ray of disintegration that was stolen by Granville and melt slash, mentioning his million fold enhanced sense as a basis, specifically saying that light looked like it was moving at « regular speed » in volume 7 for melt slash, making direct comparisons between the light ray of the stolen disintegration and melt slash.

And literally 1 page earlier :
« Nicolaus had only one verse left in the spell. Its effects would summon a layered magical circle, with Granville standing in the middle of its light-infused dungeon. Once the Disintegration was complete, there was no way to block its dazzling rays, as it dismantled the soul of its target at the speed of light. »

I hope it is enough.
 
time to make anos fight veldanava
So are MG fans ready to defend their Mid-tiers who don't have OP eyes against Hinata?
 
As of volume 7 when hinata used melt slash :
« Not just the glint of her sword but her entire body »
« a glowing orb of light lunged for rimuru »
« even with my sense enhanced by a million fold the light looked like it was looking at regular speed »

Volume 11 when Granville stole Nicolaus disintegration for his melt slash (I suggest everyone to look for context not just what I have wrote and shown, as it is better for interpretation before answering) :
« It happened in an instant. Even with my perception accelerated a million times over, it was difficult to pinpoint. But I recognized exactly what happened-because I had witnessed it before. It was Overblade: Melslash »

If you look at the scan of volume 7 he made the same statement, claiming it to be difficult to pinpoint despite his senses.

Rimuru say basically the same things for both light speed ray of disintegration that was stolen by Granville and melt slash, mentioning his million fold enhanced sense as a basis, specifically saying that light looked like it was moving at « regular speed » in volume 7 for melt slash, making direct comparisons between the light ray of the stolen disintegration and melt slash.

And literally 1 page earlier :
« Nicolaus had only one verse left in the spell. Its effects would summon a layered magical circle, with Granville standing in the middle of its light-infused dungeon. Once the Disintegration was complete, there was no way to block its dazzling rays, as it dismantled the soul of its target at the speed of light. »

I hope it is enough.
While that calculation is an outlier due to FTL+, I'll take a look at it in a few hours so I can use Melt Slash in future calculations.
 
So are MG fans ready to defend their Mid-tiers who don't have OP eyes against Hinata?
You know what, this match actually could go hard.. (in both a debate and actuality if they did fight) good choice, that is underrated

Granted Linka likely loses right now cause her profile is behind a bit 😭 and hinata's physiology is WILD (if you do use the saint key)
 
As of volume 7 when hinata used melt slash :
« Not just the glint of her sword but her entire body »
« a glowing orb of light lunged for rimuru »
« even with my sense enhanced by a million fold the light looked like it was looking at regular speed »

Volume 11 when Granville stole Nicolaus disintegration for his melt slash (I suggest everyone to look for context not just what I have wrote and shown, as it is better for interpretation before answering) :
« It happened in an instant. Even with my perception accelerated a million times over, it was difficult to pinpoint. But I recognized exactly what happened-because I had witnessed it before. It was Overblade: Melslash »

If you look at the scan of volume 7 he made the same statement, claiming it to be difficult to pinpoint despite his senses.

Rimuru say basically the same things for both light speed ray of disintegration that was stolen by Granville and melt slash, mentioning his million fold enhanced sense as a basis, specifically saying that light looked like it was moving at « regular speed » in volume 7 for melt slash, making direct comparisons between the light ray of the stolen disintegration and melt slash.

And literally 1 page earlier :
« Nicolaus had only one verse left in the spell. Its effects would summon a layered magical circle, with Granville standing in the middle of its light-infused dungeon. Once the Disintegration was complete, there was no way to block its dazzling rays, as it dismantled the soul of its target at the speed of light. »

I hope it is enough.
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You know what, this match actually could go hard.. (in both a debate and actuality if they did fight) good choice, that is underrated

Granted Linka likely loses right now cause her profile is behind a bit 😭 and hinata's physiology is WILD (if you do use the saint key)
Actually I FORGOT how fast Linka was hold on-.

Probably was closer than I thought..
 
As of volume 7 when hinata used melt slash :
« Not just the glint of her sword but her entire body »
« a glowing orb of light lunged for rimuru »
« even with my sense enhanced by a million fold the light looked like it was looking at regular speed »

Volume 11 when Granville stole Nicolaus disintegration for his melt slash (I suggest everyone to look for context not just what I have wrote and shown, as it is better for interpretation before answering) :
« It happened in an instant. Even with my perception accelerated a million times over, it was difficult to pinpoint. But I recognized exactly what happened-because I had witnessed it before. It was Overblade: Melslash »

If you look at the scan of volume 7 he made the same statement, claiming it to be difficult to pinpoint despite his senses.

Rimuru say basically the same things for both light speed ray of disintegration that was stolen by Granville and melt slash, mentioning his million fold enhanced sense as a basis, specifically saying that light looked like it was moving at « regular speed » in volume 7 for melt slash, making direct comparisons between the light ray of the stolen disintegration and melt slash.

And literally 1 page earlier :
« Nicolaus had only one verse left in the spell. Its effects would summon a layered magical circle, with Granville standing in the middle of its light-infused dungeon. Once the Disintegration was complete, there was no way to block its dazzling rays, as it dismantled the soul of its target at the speed of light. »

I hope it is enough.
Can you find the raws of these parts?
 
While that calculation is an outlier due to FTL+, I'll take a look at it in a few hours so I can use Melt Slash in future calculations.
I mean perception can go far above light speed in tensura, the rules only apply to things « having mass ».

And even spiritual matter have somehow « mass » since the author willingly instored a quantity-set giving magic physics-like mechanics, but only relative between magic particules, otherwise magicules the basic particles for magic act as radiations moving through matter, and Spiritron (basis for magicules) at the speed of light through space and time in odd pattens.

The void that testarossa use in volume 22 in said to devour at FTL. (No official translation but you can check, it is in twilight and velzard vs guy and the other battle)

Rimuru stated perceive the world as frozens, while having mentioned light ray in his explanation.
after Raphael awakened into ciel.
(Due to his hundreds of millions fold enhanced senses) wich is consistent since he can more or less react to LS attacks with just a million fold. This perception speed need to be calculated but I would be far above Basline FTL+ if not MFTL
 
after Raphael awakened into ciel.
(Due to his hundreds of millions fold enhanced senses) wich is consistent since he can more or less react to LS attacks with just a million fold. This perception speed need to be calculated but I would be far above Basline FTL+ if not MFTL
That's exactly the problem, now you get what I mean, right?
 
Yeah ? For this calculation you mean as a underrated or overrated ?

I think you mean as a under but I am not sure.
I'll explain later, for now let's just determine whether Melt Slash is at the speed of light. If Melt Slash is accepted as the speed of light, I'll redo these two calculations if necessary.
 
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