Boa Hancock vs Übel (Concluded)

[That_moron2]

Speed equal, starting distance of 10 meters, sba otherwise

Übel: 7 (@Delusionaltx2, @Keeweed, @Robo432343, @GodEarh206, me, @Enter_Bluey, @MannyQ361)​

Boa Hancock:​

Goku (Incon):

 

[Arkansalter2]

Either A: Ubel reelseiden's her
Or B: Boa SIs and petrifies.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Does ubel have resistance to boas SI?

Boa is capable of using SI on other women...

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Either A: Ubel reelseiden's her
Or B: Boa SIs and petrifies.

I mean ubel from what I remember has that one spell that just stops ppl from moving or doing anything by just her looking at them.

that being said idk if it would be capable of nulling DF abilities

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Oh yeah the name was sorganell (she tends to use this in character i'm pretty sure)

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Alright ima vote ubel here more times then not

Now i've only seen the anime for freiren so correct me if i'm wrong or anything.

First off one thing we have to get straight is that ubel is a straight up killer who doesn't really seem to have the capacity for lust or effection, the only time she does is because of some ulterior motive which would mean it wouldn't be true lust and therefore wouldn't effect her.

Boa hasn't really effected anyone like ubel before with SI, the best you can argue is that she can SI marines who are going in with the intent to kill if nessesary, however they aren't bloodlusted to the same extent ubel is since ubel will just kill the moment she gets the chance to.

On the otherhand ubel as seen in the mage exam is 100% willing to lead with sorganel in order to secure a kill, once this happens she'll immediately dura neg boa haki be damned. Ubels dura neg relies solely on cognition and isn't the same as hakis internal dura neg.

To conclude, boa's SI likely doesn't work because it hasen't been shown to work on someone as bloodlusted as ubel while ubel can and will incap her and then kill her with dura neg. My vote goes to ubel here.

 

[That_moron2]

Alright ima vote ubel here more times then not

Now i've only seen the anime for freiren so correct me if i'm wrong or anything.

First off one thing we have to get straight is that ubel is a straight up killer who doesn't really seem to have the capacity for lust or effection, the only time she does is because of some ulterior motive which would mean it wouldn't be true lust and therefore wouldn't effect her.

Boa hasn't really effected anyone like ubel before with SI, the best you can argue is that she can SI marines who are going in with the intent to kill if nessesary, however they aren't bloodlusted to the same extent ubel is since ubel will just kill the moment she gets the chance to.

On the otherhand ubel as seen in the mage exam is 100% willing to lead with sorganel in order to secure a kill, once this happens she'll immediately dura neg boa haki be damned. Ubels dura neg relies solely on cognition and isn't the same as hakis internal dura neg.

To conclude, boa's SI likely doesn't work because it hasen't been shown to work on someone as bloodlusted as ubel while ubel can and will incap her and then kill her with dura neg. My vote goes to ubel here.

Counted

 

[Kachon123]

Boa hasn't really effected anyone like ubel before with SI, the best you can argue is that she can SI marines who are going in with the intent to kill if nessesary, however they aren't bloodlusted to the same extent ubel is since ubel will just kill the moment she gets the chance to.

Yeah, no. Her SI literally works on emotionless robots whose only purpose is to kill and eliminate enemies. Simply being bloodlusted means nothing. Boa travels the seas with a large bounty constantly being chased by people trying to kill her and only Luffy has resisted it. Ubel is still a person. A person who can feel lust. She's turning to stone instantly.

On the otherhand ubel as seen in the mage exam is 100% willing to lead with sorganel in order to secure a kill, once this happens she'll immediately dura neg boa haki be damned. Ubels dura neg relies solely on cognition and isn't the same as hakis internal dura neg.

Sorganel does not stop Hancock. She has far superior Kenbunshoku than the likes of Sandersonia, her sister who has high level precogs to the point to where she hasn't been tagged before as a fighter. Even if she gets restrained, Hancock would simply use Haoshoku and knock Ubel out.

Boa also has her snake Salome that would attack Ubel if Sorganel is activated. The second she switches targets the battle ends.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Yeah, no. Her SI literally works on emotionless robots whose only purpose is to kill and eliminate enemies. Simply being bloodlusted means nothing.

When did that happen?

Boa travels the seas with a large bounty constantly being chased by people trying to kill her and only Luffy has resisted it.

So fodder marines and vice admirals don't just run around, bloodlusted at every pirate they see the same way ubel kinda just does with anyone. Sure they are willing to kill if nessesary but as seen with ace and roger they will usually try to capture them first, then kill em later.

Ubel is still a person. A person who can feel lust.

This is very debatable considering ubel as a character literally has never shown genuine lust before to another human being (anime at least)

She's turning to stone instantly.

Again prob not

Sorganel does not stop Hancock. She has far superior Kenbunshoku than the likes of Sandersonia, her sister who has high level precogs to the point to where she hasn't been tagged before as a fighter.

So the thing with sorgenel is that the moment she SEES hancock she gets trapped. Its not a dodgable projectile.

Even if she gets restrained, Hancock would simply use Haoshoku and knock Ubel out.

Sorgenel seals abilities away so she will be unable to use haki

Boa also has her snake Salome that would attack Ubel if Sorganel is activated.

The snake is in her line of sight and therefore would also get effected.

The second she switches targets the battle ends.

not really, she stuns both and kills them

 

[Kachon123]

When did that happen?

Marineford. It's in the description of the ability on her profile.

So fodder marines and vice admirals don't just run around, bloodlusted at every pirate they see the same way ubel kinda just does with anyone. Sure they are willing to kill if nessesary but as seen with ace and roger they will usually try to capture them first, then kill em later.

??? She's literally a Warlord. It's kill or be killed.

This is very debatable considering ubel as a character literally has never shown genuine lust before to another human being (anime at least)

She's never met Hancock, whose SI is supernatural to the point of working on things it shouldn't.

So the thing with sorgenel is that the moment she SEES hancock she gets trapped. Its not a dodgable projectile.

Problem with this is that Boa has precog and will always get the first move off. If she sees herself getting restrained she's simply knocking Ubel out with Haoshoku.

Sorgenel seals abilities away so she will be unable to use haki

Haki resist power nullification and Haki and mana are nowhere similar enough for it to work here.

The snake is in her line of sight and therefore would also get effected.

Nope. She has to be specifically looking at that thing. It's why Ubel was able to defeat her perfect clone because of Land.

not really, she stuns both and kills them

That's not how the ability works unfortunately.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Marineford. It's in the description of the ability on her profile.

The closest thing to this is pasifistas but I don't really recall a single time she SI's them.
Normally she hits them and then they get petrified.

??? She's literally a Warlord. It's kill or be killed.

yeah except she gets captured first THEN killed.

She's never met Hancock, whose SI is supernatural to the point of working on things it shouldn't.

Cool, hancock has never met someone as nonchalant as ubel who just kills things that cause even a minor inconvenience

Problem with this is that Boa has precog and will always get the first move off.

Dawg its literally both on sight and what she leads with, there's no time frame, there's nothing she'll just see herself being restricted without any cause as to what.

Edit: Also speed is equalized here (just realised this). While precog is also thought based the problem here is that boas actual movements are not, so while she would think first, she would again just see herself getting sealed with no known cause whatever.

If she sees herself getting restrained she's simply knocking Ubel out with Haoshoku.

again that gets nulled by the sealing

Haki resist power nullification and Haki and mana are nowhere similar enough for it to work here.

The power null aspect is via sealing which means you have to resist sealing.

Nope. She has to be specifically looking at that thing. It's why Ubel was able to defeat her perfect clone because of Land.

Cool, moment the fight starts she'd has a perfect view of boa

That's not how the ability works unfortunately.

? yes it is, they'd both be in her line of sight as this would be what she's seeing when the fight starts.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Bump

 

[Keeweed]

Even assuming Hancock goes for SI first (she doesn’t just make girls fall in love with her at sight, she has to appear actively sexy to some girls) rather than trying to hit Ubel. She has to raise her hands for the beam, meanwhile Ubel’s main attacks both can just happen with pretty much no movement required on her part. And Ubel is sociopathic enough that I think she’d easily stab someone she loves, ignoring Hancock has literally no time to do anything to try and SI her since she gets paralyzed by the very first glance.
“Precognition gives Boa the first move”. Haki needs to be activated. The thought she uses to start it is the thought Ubel used to disable her through magic paralysis.

 

[That_moron2]

Bump

 

[That_moron2]

Bump

 

[Robo432343]

Ubel fra

 

[That_moron2]

Ubel fra

Counted

 

[GodEarh206]

Ubel FRA

 

[That_moron2]

Ubel FRA

Counted

 

[That_moron2]

Ubel fra

 

[That_moron2]

Bump

 

[That_moron2]

Bump

 

[That_moron2]

Bump

 

[Enter_Bluey]

Voting ubel

 

[MannyQ361]

Ubel fra

 

[That_moron2]

Ubel fra

Grace

 

[JJSliderman]

Surprised that strong haki doesn’t allow paralysis resist. Maybe it’s cuz it’s magic and not biological.

 

[Keeweed]

Surprised that strong haki doesn’t allow paralysis resist. Maybe it’s cuz it’s magic and not biological.

Yeah even if they got resist (which is possible because CoC can paralyze), it would be the wrong resistance.

 

[That_moron2]

This has been added and can be closed

 

[Kachon123]

Went back to this thread because I got reminded because of a new Hancock match and it seems I got auto-unfollowed from this. That's unfortunate.