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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread

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How the hell does FOX Silver Samurai's power absorption work? The link in his justification is useless since the video was removed by the uploader. Can he just steal anyone's biological abilities or only healing factors/immortalities?
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
How the hell does FOX Silver Samurai's power absorption work? The link in his justification is useless since the video was removed by the uploader. Can he just steal anyone's biological abilities or only healing factors/immortalities?
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Here's the scene, I guess he can absorb mutant DNA and copy their powers similar to the Sentinels
 
According to rumors savage hulk will be in brand new day so I have a question

if they fight and Spiderman can phase hulk in any way with his strength would it still be considered an outlier or would that and his cull feats suddenly make it consistent? How would this site treat it ?
 
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darkphantom9805 said:
According to rumors savage hulk will be in brand new day so I have a question

if they fight and Spiderman can phase hulk in any way with his strength would it still be considered an outlier or would that and his cull feats suddenly make it consistent? How would this site treat it ?
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hes not gonna harm hulk i promise you that
 
I'm going to laugh when Peter punches him and nearly breaks his hand. Whether it's a gag or a mistaken blow, Hulk is going to be treated like a stone wall. Powerscaler brain.

I'll eat 3 shoes if Spider-Man puts up a fight against Hulk or someone that gives Hulk trouble.
 
Reyne said:
I'm going to laugh when Peter punches him and nearly breaks his hand. Whether it's a gag or a mistaken blow, Hulk is going to be treated like a stone wall. Powerscaler brain.

I'll eat 3 shoes if Spider-Man puts up a fight against Hulk or someone that gives Hulk trouble.
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Comics Peter has literally hurt hulk when hitting him before and in the mcu he no sold cull strike heck Spiderman has punched people above hulk Thanos and didn’t break his hand lol

Spiderman will give hulk trouble then what do you accept cull feats isn’t an outlier or do you call the hulk fight an outlier to ?
 
darkphantom9805 said:
According to rumors savage hulk will be in brand new day so I have a question

if they fight and Spiderman can phase hulk in any way with his strength would it still be considered an outlier or would that and his cull feats suddenly make it consistent? How would this site treat it ?
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Why do you want Spidey to scale to Hulk so bad? 😭
 
Spider-Man when a concrete pillar exists: owwwie

Someone needs to get on WI S1,Ep5 and Zombies being considered for canon (unless years have passed for Zombies). Ikaris needs that upscale when he tears Thanos in half (99% sure he isn't infected/had to put down the other Eternals).
 
darkphantom9805 said:
Comics Peter has literally hurt hulk when hitting him before and in the mcu he no sold cull strike heck Spiderman has punched people above hulk Thanos and didn’t break his hand lol

Spiderman will give hulk trouble then what do you accept cull feats isn’t an outlier or do you call the hulk fight an outlier to ?
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We treat it as an outlier as we do his comic counterpart.
 
darkphantom9805 said:
How would it also be an outlier if Spiderman is consistently shown to phase hulk tier opponents is called near hulk level by WoG at some point it becomes consistent
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Because he far more consistently struggles with Tier 8 feats. He has like 3 feats of comparing to the high-tiers throughout all of the MCU, yet gets hurt by 100 different Tier 9 - 8 feats in No Way Home alone, let alone his other movies

This was already explained like 100 times to you in that Spider-Man CRT you made. Imo, the most you can argue is High 8-C to 8-B for the LA Spider-Man, but he's definitely not on the same level as the MCU high-tiers
 
ThePrimalHunter said:
Because he far more consistently struggles with Tier 8 feats. He has like 3 feats of comparing to the high-tiers throughout all of the MCU, yet gets hurt by 100 different Tier 9 - 8 feats in No Way Home alone, let alone his other movies

This was already explained like 100 times to you in that Spider-Man CRT you made. Imo, the most you can argue is High 8-C to 8-B for the LA Spider-Man, but he's definitely not on the same level as the MCU high-tiers
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Then those people would be upgraded lol if every single time he interacts with a high tier he is shown phasing them then he would just be that strong it would be consistent that would be 4 separate films he would showcase that power

At some point the feats matter more then opinion several characters on this site like carol performs 1 feat and they automatically get the tier Peter does it numerous times in 3-4 different films and y’all argue about it
 
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Then those people would be upgraded lol if every single time he interacts with a high tier he is shown phasing them then he would just be that strong it would be consistent that would be 4 separate films he would showcase that power

At some point the feats matter more then opinion several characters on this site like carol performs 1 feat and they automatically get the tier Peter does it numerous times in 3-4 different films and y’all argue about it
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At least Carol didn't struggle with fodders
 
Excellence616 said:
At least Carol didn't struggle with fodders
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She was getting ragdolled by fodder in her own film lol and almost every high tier has low ends and high ends hulk was turned into a mess from just a few Chitauri fodder there’s so many examples of that happening for all the high tiers Wanda hulk Thor etc
 
Carol now isn't Carol then, unless we're using this Spider-Man logic to put the Skrulls at 4-C.

Nick Fury is 4-B Black Jesus, yes or no?

(On a serious note, shouldn't DP and Logan get the whatever rating vibranium has after Copperhead cut open Sam's vibranium weave suit?)
 
Reyne said:
Nick Fury is 4-B Black Jesus, yes or no?
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Meme Drop - Meme
 
darkphantom9805 said:
Then those people would be upgraded lol if every single time he interacts with a high tier he is shown phasing them then he would just be that strong it would be consistent that would be 4 separate films he would showcase that power
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Yeah and if every single time he gets hit by a Tier 8 attack he gets injured then he would just be that strong, and that is consistent since in every single movie he's in, he's getting put on his ass by a Tier 8 attack
darkphantom9805 said:
At some point the feats matter more then opinion several characters on this site like carol performs 1 feat and they automatically get the tier Peter does it numerous times in 3-4 different films and y’all argue about it
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Yeah because Carol has a decent amount of feats within the Tier 6 - 5 range. Peter doesn't
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She was getting ragdolled by fodder in her own film lol and almost every high tier has low ends and high ends hulk was turned into a mess from just a few Chitauri fodder there’s so many examples of that happening for all the high tiers Wanda hulk Thor etc
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Hulk, Thor, Carol, etc all have dozens of Tier 6 - 5 feats that make their scaling consistent. For every feat of them getting hurt or overpowered by a Tier 8 - 7 character, they have several Tier 6 feats that prove they're consistently in that higher tier of power. For every Tier 6 feat Spider-Man has, there's an entire movies worth of him being put on his ass by Tier 8 impacts & explosions

I just genuinely don't see how you can think any of the LA Spider-Men could be Tier 6. In every single movie, without fail, Peter is CONSTANTLY put on his ass by Tier 8 explosions, impacts, damage, etc. He got knocked out by getting hit by a train. He got knocked around by 8-C bombs. The other live action Spider-Men had to put in maximum strength, full effort, to pull off like High 8-C & Class K feats. I don't know how you can watch these movies and actually think to yourself "yep, he's on the same level as Thor or Thanos or any of the other high-tiers." It just doesn't work at all with what we've seen. And as you've said "at some point the feats matter more than opinion", and I think you should probably start taking your own advice. The feats matter more than your opinion that Spider-Man is Tier 6

We've explained this to you like 500 times in your own CRT, you either just don't read the arguements or it's just going in one ear and out the other. Spider-Man isn't Tier 6, it's okay to accept that. Not every character needs to be uber mega powerful for them to be good. You can still like a character & admit they're not that strong
 
ThePrimalHunter said:
Yeah and if every single time he gets hit by a Tier 8 attack he gets injured then he would just be that strong, and that is consistent since in every single movie he's in, he's getting put on his ass by a Tier 8 attack
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and the other high tiers get hurt by weaker things to but go on

every high tier has low ends and high ends they aren’t all tier 8 attacks they would be feats for what hurt him so like you can’t go well ock and goblin hurt them and those are the tier 8 they would just be upgraded along with Peter


ThePrimalHunter said:
Yeah because Carol has a decent amount of feats within the Tier 6 - 5 range. Peter doesn't
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She has 1 star feat and was instantly accepted into that tier Peter feats are performed over the course of 3-4 different films of that power it’s more consistent then half the tiers for the high tier characters


ThePrimalHunter said:
Hulk, Thor, Carol, etc all have dozens of Tier 6 - 5 feats that make their scaling consistent. For every feat of them getting hurt or overpowered by a Tier 8 - 7 character, they have several Tier 6 feats that prove they're consistently in that higher tier of power. For every Tier 6 feat Spider-Man has, there's an entire movies worth of him being put on his ass by Tier 8 impacts & explosions
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No they don’t 90% of the feats in the mcu aren’t consistent or replicated again they are all for the most part 1 off stuff or heavily rely on statements for feats your acting like every performance every strike they show those feats they don’t


if every single time spidey interacts with hulk tier he is shown phasing them so cull ock and if brand new day has him fight hulk then it’s consistent as not once would he ever be shown way inferior to hulk tiers


ThePrimalHunter said:
I just genuinely don't see how you can think any of the LA Spider-Men could be Tier 6. In every single movie, without fail, Peter is CONSTANTLY put on his ass by Tier 8 explosions, impacts, damage, etc. He got knocked out by getting hit by a train. He got knocked around by 8-C bombs. The other live action Spider-Men had to put in maximum strength, full effort, to pull off like High 8-C & Class K feats. I don't know how you can watch these movies and actually think to yourself "yep, he's on the same level as Thor or Thanos or any of the other high-tiers." It just doesn't work at all with what we've seen. And as you've said "at some point the feats matter more than opinion", and I think you should probably start taking your own advice. The feats matter more than your opinion that Spider-Man is Tier 6
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Because they aren’t tier 8 stuff my guy those would be feats for those objects for the most part and I think that because they have feats lol I choose to accept what’s stated and happens on screen overpowering cull iron spider and if hulk stuff happens that to the feats just get more and more

Feats matter more then your opinion if feats show he can hang with hulk tiers by literally fighting them then he get hang with them get over it


ThePrimalHunter said:
We've explained this to you like 500 times in your own CRT, you either just don't read the arguements or it's just going in one ear and out the other. Spider-Man isn't Tier 6, it's okay to accept that. Not every character needs to be uber mega powerful for them to be good. You can still like a character & admit they're not that strong
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Y’all didn’t even explain anything in fact most the argument weren’t real arguments and ignore official statements and context and double standards in order to lowball Peter but not apply those same standards to other high tiers

Spidey is that strong he has numerous feats showing so WoG and everything that’s reality you not accepting what happens on screen isn’t going to change that it only becomes more and more consistent every time he interacts with anyone of those tiers
 
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Old news, but someone told me to crosspost this nearly two years ago; it's already approved, so there's no need for comment.
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Wasn't there one scan that compares him to TLT? No, nothing of such. Something of a battle happen but it was just made up in Bruce's inner world to make Hulk angry.
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Not sure if this has been asked before. Just rewatched Multiverse of Madness.

If we accept that SW destroyed the darkhold in an uncountably infinite amount of universes, wouldn't her AP be Low 2-C rather than High 3-A for doing so?

An aleph-1 amount of 3-D space would be equivalent to a 4th-dimensional construct. In much the same way an aleph-1 amount of 4-D space would be 5th-dimensional.
 
LMalone22 said:
I mean she destroy every darkhold in multiverse it already accepted it was High 3-A but not LOW 2-C
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That's what @Phoenks was asking about my g; the only threads we're based around High 3-A.

Anyway, there isn't a thread that puts Wanda at Low 2-C. It's best if someone makes it for the upgrade.
 
LMalone22 said:
It would be best if it weren't me, because I've already made more than 10 CRT about her
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Fair enough. I've already got a few CRTs up for the MCU too, so I'm a little filled up too. We can leave it to someone else to pick it up, if they want to.
 
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