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One Piece new chapter spoilers thread

I didn't see that in his comment, but go off I guess
Literally says Jozu isn't anywhere near Mihawk... Used ~ between them which means to be relative

You not seeing that just shows how oblivious you are, especially when it comes to Mihawk 🐵🤷‍♂️
 
Literally says Jozu isn't anywhere near Mihawk... Used ~ between them which means to be relative

You not seeing that just shows how oblivious you are, especially when it comes to Mihawk 🐵🤷‍♂️

The irony of YOU of all people calling someone oblivious, ESPECIALLY when it comes to Mihawk, is the funniest shit I'll probably read all week on the Internet
 
The irony of YOU of all people calling someone oblivious, ESPECIALLY when it comes to Mihawk, is the funniest shit I'll probably read all week on the Internet
I mean you guys can keep on saying this, just redirecting things without any validity and instead try to hide from the truth

The truths I'm saying is still truth and you guys not being able to handle that is simply your own detriments
 
The irony of YOU of all people calling someone oblivious, ESPECIALLY when it comes to Mihawk, is the funniest shit I'll probably read all week on the Internet
It's not worth arguing about any longer lol
I backed away from that whole thing the moment they started to team up on me over it
I don't do no group arguments lmfao
 
It's not worth arguing about any longer lol
I backed away from that whole thing the moment they started to team up on me over it
I don't do no group arguments lmfao
Bro is trying to be me so bad 😴🤚 you can't

I win when I go against groups, you fail... There's a difference 🙈 that's why you the fake monkey
 
Charlos alone
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😂 the way he's just standing there before getting hit
 
Wait... What if Imu is a multi df user and has a df to transfer them to others

Blackbeard being, in a way, related somehow... This is if Oda is still going with the original main power system
 


potential conqueror requirement needed to damage holy knights

Waban conqueror confirmed?

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On the one hand, this is good for Sanji, but on the other hand, it basically means that the rest of the Strawhat crew is going to be useless going forward (unless everyone awakens Conqueror's Haki ... Which would be bad for a bunch of other reasons)
 
On the one hand, this is good for Sanji, but on the other hand, it basically means that the rest of the Strawhat crew is going to be useless going forward (unless everyone awakens Conqueror's Haki ... Which would be bad for a bunch of other reasons)
ngl i do agree, but i do think oda will have some method to deal with it, maybe deactivating immortality through imu
 
On the one hand, this is good for Sanji, but on the other hand, it basically means that the rest of the Strawhat crew is going to be useless going forward (unless everyone awakens Conqueror's Haki ... Which would be bad for a bunch of other reasons)
Or they'll just fight someone else.
 
On the one hand, this is good for Sanji, but on the other hand, it basically means that the rest of the Strawhat crew is going to be useless going forward (unless everyone awakens Conqueror's Haki ... Which would be bad for a bunch of other reasons)
Currently means literally nothing for Sanji


potential conqueror requirement needed to damage holy knights

Waban conqueror confirmed?



This maybe could mean its cap and isn't stated anywhere in the chapter

But it's still literally obvious gaban used adv con haki


Also the people hyping gaban up are fr ruining his character for me... They aren't even actual fans of him, its just the sanji fans being insecure and immature 🐵
 
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Bro I’m tired of this constant bullshit of power creeping with haki.

Like, Kaido is supposed to be the strongest creature in the world; it’s stated by the narrator, the characters, the vivre cards, etc. He had the most advanced forms of haki at the time, and that made since, as Roger said you can’t win without Haki, so he’d naturally train the hell out of his.

Then, all of a sudden, Shanks comes out with an even more advanced versions of CoC that negs future sight. At that point, that’s a little…odd, that he didn’t have it, but whatever, maybe you can chalk it up to Shanks being a haki man and shit. Besides, it’s not like it’s that much far behind Kaido’s own-

“Wait guys, in order to beat the holy knights, you’ve got to have haki that’s even more advanced!”

I shouldn’t have to explain to you how dumb it is that the guy who, again, is the strongest creature, and has been a haki master for decades, would be not one, but two rungs below the top for the haki he uses the most. I thought Oda would come up with some cool solution to the problem of the regeneration, but no, you’ve just gotta throw more haki at ‘em.

This was not planned out that well, I’m sorry but it just wasn’t. Sure, a lot of it is, and Oda probably has better foresight than most mangaka, but in Pre-Timeskip, everything felt planned; nowadays, it feels like plot points are, and how Oda gets to them is just what he feels at the time.
 
We don't know that Kaido doesn't have this level of Supreme King Haki that Gaban has.
 
Brief spoilers are out
 
Bro I’m tired of this constant bullshit of power creeping with haki.

Like, Kaido is supposed to be the strongest creature in the world; it’s stated by the narrator, the characters, the vivre cards, etc. He had the most advanced forms of haki at the time, and that made since, as Roger said you can’t win without Haki, so he’d naturally train the hell out of his.

Then, all of a sudden, Shanks comes out with an even more advanced versions of CoC that negs future sight. At that point, that’s a little…odd, that he didn’t have it, but whatever, maybe you can chalk it up to Shanks being a haki man and shit. Besides, it’s not like it’s that much far behind Kaido’s own-

“Wait guys, in order to beat the holy knights, you’ve got to have haki that’s even more advanced!”

I shouldn’t have to explain to you how dumb it is that the guy who, again, is the strongest creature, and has been a haki master for decades, would be not one, but two rungs below the top for the haki he uses the most. I thought Oda would come up with some cool solution to the problem of the regeneration, but no, you’ve just gotta throw more haki at ‘em.

This was not planned out that well, I’m sorry but it just wasn’t. Sure, a lot of it is, and Oda probably has better foresight than most mangaka, but in Pre-Timeskip, everything felt planned; nowadays, it feels like plot points are, and how Oda gets to them is just what he feels at the time.
"World's strongest creature" who had that title at the same time as the "world's strongest man" had his.
 
We don't know that Kaido doesn't have this level of Supreme King Haki that Gaban has.
Considering that he literally didn’t ever cancel Luffy’s future sight even when he got serious, and that Luffy was matching him in their Haki duels despite him not having this new level of haki….I highly doubt it.
"World's strongest creature" who had that title at the same time as the "world's strongest man" had his.
Whitebeard earned his title decades before the events of One Piece, and it’s clear he’s since gotten old and past his prime since. Kaido is being called the worlds strongest creature left and right all throughout Wano, and there’s no evidence to suggest that he’s weaker than in his youth.
 
Something of possible interest:



Possible massive spoilers for the One Piece story as a whole though. 🙏
 
Btw: If Loki idolises Rocks D. Xebec, and Teach is his son, maybe Loki will eventually join the Blackbeard crew? 🙏
 
"World's strongest creature" who had that title at the same time as the "world's strongest man" had his.
Kaido’s title doesn’t even pertain to humans. It’s almost always phrased as a rumour too. “It is said”, “people say”, “some say”, etc. Tbh it seems like a clear literary difference Oda displayed, as opposed to WB’s or Mihawk’s respective titles, wherein they’re stated as objective fact, rather than the constant pretences for Kaido.
 
Considering that he literally didn’t ever cancel Luffy’s future sight even when he got serious, and that Luffy was matching him in their Haki duels despite him not having this new level of haki….I highly doubt it.

Whitebeard earned his title decades before the events of One Piece, and it’s clear he’s since gotten old and past his prime since. Kaido is being called the worlds strongest creature left and right all throughout Wano, and there’s no evidence to suggest that he’s weaker than in his youth.
Kaido is not the strongest in the world it is said "Kaido is the strongest creature thats what the people said" "he has been defeated 7 times" but the most important thing is its said by the people. I always believed that Kaido wasn't the strongest.

Also, if I remember correctly, in Japan, creatures and humans are considered separate categories. (correct me if I'm wrong tho).
So if Kaido is actually the strongest creature which is not coz it was said by the people and also it wasn't written in a box like whitebeard as the strongest man.
that means Some Humans and Devils are stronger than him. Yes both In Japanese culture and fiction, devils (or demons) are also treated separately from both humans and ordinary creatures.

Well in the end this is how I see it and how I understand the story. It makes the most sense to me so far that Oda didn't write Kaido as "the strongest creature" in a written Box like WB did which that means he is not.
 
Kaido is not the strongest in the world it is said "Kaido is the strongest creature thats what the people said" "he has been defeated 7 times" but the most important thing is its said by the people. I always believed that Kaido wasn't the strongest.
His official Vivre card (which are written by Oda) states verbatim that he’s “The Strongest Creature”, so this whole idea is wrong, full send.
Also, if I remember correctly, in Japan, creatures and humans are considered separate categories. (correct me if I'm wrong tho).
So if Kaido is actually the strongest creature which is not coz it was said by the people and also it wasn't written in a box like whitebeard as the strongest man.
that means Some Humans and Devils are stronger than him. Yes both In Japanese culture and fiction, devils (or demons) are also treated separately from both humans and ordinary creatures.
No idea about all of this so I won’t comment on it.

Tbh I’m fine with characters like Imu being stronger than him; narratively, that makes sense. What I have a problem with is someone like Gaban having not just one, but two leagues higher Conquerers haki than him. I genuinely cannot think of a real justification as to why the 60 year old left hand of a yonko would have better haki than an actual yonko, one touted to be as strong as Kaido, for that matter.
 
His official Vivre card (which are written by Oda) states verbatim that he’s “The Strongest Creature”, so this whole idea is wrong, full send.

No idea about all of this so I won’t comment on it.

Tbh I’m fine with characters like Imu being stronger than him; narratively, that makes sense. What I have a problem with is someone like Gaban having not just one, but two leagues higher Conquerers haki than him. I genuinely cannot think of a real justification as to why the 60 year old left hand of a yonko would have better haki than an actual yonko, one touted to be as strong as Kaido, for that matter.
I mean idk about the viver card coz i dont if its actually true (i would love to see it if u have it)

Well both prime Gaban and ray are both as strong and most likely stronger than prime Kaido IMO.
So far we dont know how strong this adv adv coc but why would it matter for kaido to have this type?
Kaido has a mythical fruit + advanced COC (of course there is a possibility that he has this type we dont know yet)
Where Shanks, Gaban and ray dont have a fruit so things must be balanced.
 
Bro I’m tired of this constant bullshit of power creeping with haki.

Like, Kaido is supposed to be the strongest creature in the world; it’s stated by the narrator, the characters, the vivre cards, etc. He had the most advanced forms of haki at the time, and that made since, as Roger said you can’t win without Haki, so he’d naturally train the hell out of his.

Then, all of a sudden, Shanks comes out with an even more advanced versions of CoC that negs future sight. At that point, that’s a little…odd, that he didn’t have it, but whatever, maybe you can chalk it up to Shanks being a haki man and shit. Besides, it’s not like it’s that much far behind Kaido’s own-

“Wait guys, in order to beat the holy knights, you’ve got to have haki that’s even more advanced!”

I shouldn’t have to explain to you how dumb it is that the guy who, again, is the strongest creature, and has been a haki master for decades, would be not one, but two rungs below the top for the haki he uses the most. I thought Oda would come up with some cool solution to the problem of the regeneration, but no, you’ve just gotta throw more haki at ‘em.

This was not planned out that well, I’m sorry but it just wasn’t. Sure, a lot of it is, and Oda probably has better foresight than most mangaka, but in Pre-Timeskip, everything felt planned; nowadays, it feels like plot points are, and how Oda gets to them is just what he feels at the time.
the chapter ain't even out...

Assuming what you specifically is saying to be true.. More advanced doesn't mean more powerful, but the statement literally says con haki in general can damage and defeat them, the reason to why you should master con haki to a new level... Basically just saying to use adv con haki which Kaido and Luffy already been doing

So just wait before speaking and assuming everything
 
Yes, and better hax, speed, or skill does not automatically translate into higher raw power. 🙏
 
@MonkeyOfLife
I see but idk coz viver card said removed that zoro had adv COC but also it wasn't shown in manga that Kaido is the strongest creature (But maybe it is)
but yeah both demons and humans arent creature in Japanese culture.

@Da3ggman


Also Kaido has adv COC so Gaban has only an 1 more adv not 2 more adv
So Kaido has = adv COC
Gaban has = adv adv COC (he said more improved COC in the spoiler )

but yeah lets see the chapter first before we judge. :D
 
I see but idk coz viver card said removed that zoro had adv COC
The vivre card only asked... If it could've been con haki (not confirming or denying)

Which we now is known to be true... Enma was the thing that brought out Zoro's con haki that was just lying dormant within him
 
Ok.... Con haki, the embodiment of your spirit... You strengthen your con haki, not by directly training it but by you becoming stronger yourself
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The stronger you become = the stronger your spirit/con haki also becomes

adv con haki is using that strong con haki and applying it to ones limb or weapon (this does not mean adv con haki > their con haki, it's just using your already strong con haki more potently in a single area when applying it to ones limb or weapon.

All gaban said was con haki damages them and that you should improve you con haki... That's all)
 
Also.... 😴🚬As always I was right in Luffy (and Zoro) not using adv con haki in egghead, both off them never went all out, only stalling their enemies to protect and let vegapunk and the others escape
 
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I'm kinda feel unsure about only Advance Conqueror Haki users be able to bypass immortality.

Because it mean beside Luffy, Zoro and possibly Sanji all other Straw Hats are going to be unable to challenge either God's Knights or Gorosei.

While the Gorosei can be reserved to people like Sabo, Yamato, Kidd, Law, Dragon and etc, i image God's Knights could had be reserved to weaker characters without Advance CoC.

I to hope there can be some other methods to at least disrupt immortality like damaging or removing the mark (like people assume it happen with Shanks).
 
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