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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers

I mean... Modern Cyber Spaces like the ones from G.U.N in Shadow the Hedgehog (2005) already are infinite in size/data... so, does this even matter to discuss? I dunno what "beyond infinity" would even be tier wise
Only problem is potential hyperbole ig.
 
I still think Eggman's word shouldnt be considered unreliable when it comes to surpassing his own creations rather than surpassing others. There should be a difference between these two.

It'd be silly to assume he can't surpass the stuff he himself created without the assistance of external power sources. The same way assuming an invention he creates is far weaker than a certain invention when he claims it's his strongest, it's contradictory.
Kind of agree, people really believe that every single time Eggman talks up a creation he made as his greatest one, it’s always a lie. Which like, how can he be lying 5 times in a row.
 
the same way he has lost more than 30 times in a row
It's simply a result of the people he's going against being better than he is. Both are not "the same way".

We literally accepted Dr. Eggman saying Mecha Sonic Mk. II being his greatest creation to date in a recent CRT to account for the scaling. The fact that went through without resistance but people being against the other statements makes me believe it's an aversion to higher tier scaling.
Edit: Sorry, that was rude of me
 
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I know that people like you wouldn't mind living in the mediocrity of a game that doesn't even have passable lip-syncing, but I would prefer doubling-down and getting remastered cutscenes to at least match what the characters are saying.
Isn't the dialogue in the game synced to the Japanese version? I don't remember exactly.
 
Kind of agree, people really believe that every single time Eggman talks up a creation he made as his greatest one, it’s always a lie. Which like, how can he be lying 5 times in a row.
I don’t think it’s that he’s lying, it’s moreso that he always underestimates Sonic and co. Hence why he’s always stunned they beat his ass every time.
That doesn’t mean the machine wasn’t better than the last. Plus there’s always constant narrative and guide statements that generally his machines are stronger than the last ones he built.
 
If Sonic Shuffle happened in Archie, shouldn't Eggman have his Shuffle gems? (And other powers that Eggman gains by Shuffle)
 
Tbf I don’t think Eggman should get every Forcejewel in Shuffle, he’s only been seen with 3 of them.

And him having Gamma doesn’t improve that because this is a recreation of Gamma not working for Eggman.
 
Tbf I don’t think Eggman should get every Forcejewel in Shuffle, he’s only been seen with 3 of them.

And him having Gamma doesn’t improve that because this is a recreation of Gamma not working for Eggman.
Gamma got brought back by Maginaryworld's dream powers

Still trying to find the JP versions of the gallery to see if there's anything different
 
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Tbf I don’t think Eggman should get every Forcejewel in Shuffle, he’s only been seen with 3 of them.

And him having Gamma doesn’t improve that because this is a recreation of Gamma not working for Eggman.
In hindsight, forgot that Eggman can create an unlimited amount of MW monsters, which themselves can drop different forcejewels beyond the 3 he gives out. Whether that means he’s giving the monsters these jewels or they just find them idk, but there is something else suggesting he has more than 3 types of jewels at least.
 
Do we consider Wishes = Dreams?

While in the english version of Shuffle Super Sonic is awakened by dreams, the japanese version apparently has him awakened by wishes.
 
Do we consider Wishes = Dreams?
Yes. Remember what Lumina said about what dreams are.

She calls lust, monopolization, and domination as evil dreams and Sonic states anger, sadness, despair, and emptiness create dreams and empower them.

Dreams are also something you do, something you become, something that changes. This is stated twice.

More scans are in Illumina's page, under Abstract Existence.
While in the english version of Shuffle Super Sonic is awakened by dreams, the japanese version apparently has him awakened by wishes.
Awesome, that's another thing we can put on his page.
 
Personally, I think the Robotnik Monitor should be Pain Manip & Death Manip once again, i have more material apart from the premature death one to prove it, also due to Rings providing immunity to death (need to find the scan again, it's in a sonic 1 mag)
 
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Read the first chapter of Sonic & the Blade of Courage.

Really enjoyed Sonic's character in this, felt really true-to-heart and on-beat. Perhaps Yuuta and this Sonic can also get a profile some time, that would be cool
 
Read the first chapter of Sonic & the Blade of Courage.

Really enjoyed Sonic's character in this, felt really true-to-heart and on-beat. Perhaps Yuuta and this Sonic can also get a profile some time, that would be cool
Manga Sonic has a very interesting feat of reversing a train after being slowed down (Although inferior to Shuffle I think)
Yuta's sword power is very interesting, and specific, but cool
 
Outside of feats, it would be interesting if SEGA created a Sonic manga universe, with Shadow Generations manga and Blade of Courage part of that continuity
 
Read the first chapter of Sonic & the Blade of Courage.

Really enjoyed Sonic's character in this, felt really true-to-heart and on-beat. Perhaps Yuuta and this Sonic can also get a profile some time, that would be cool
The handling and perspective of the story reminded me a lot of Sonic X. The focus is more so on a non-combative character with Sonic just showing up here and there, and us not really getting his specific perspective. It's neat to see.
 
I may have found a way to get Class T or P LS for Classic characters, but I need something answered first

Do we deem this as Sonic flying while holding Rolling Eggman in the air (Conditional Flight by grabbing onto objects mid-air??), or do we deem it as Sonic viewing gravity acceleration as frozen while flipping with him?
 
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Random, but currently Frontiers has sold 4.57 million units, and surprisingly Team Sonic Racing has sold 3.5 million, I think.
 
Yeah.
SEGA doesn't tend to detail sales numbers to fans (such as these numbers being leaked and not even officially given), but assuming past numbers for Sonic games aren't far off from their actual sales, this would make Frontiers the 4th or 3rd best selling Sonic franchise game I think? Especially assuming it crosses 5 million by early 2026.
 
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