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where would ANH kenobi be on this scaling chain
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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi
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Epyriel
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Probably below Dooku but above Plo Koon, as Jedi grew weaker after O66 in Legends but ANH Kenobi was still able to put up a fight to ANH Vader who (while below KFV) was still able to fight evenly with the likes of Starkiller.
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Will check out for them too, thank you for the knowledge.
I'm +/- 45% finished with Din Djarin
Will be doing the Beskar page then Grogu and Boba Fett's right after, than maybe Jango, Bo-Katan and Moff, but i may be prioritizing Pre Vizla, Tarre Vizla and The Armorer since they're way more simple
Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera
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Nobody cares about or has ever played this game, but I'm partially through making Kay Vess's profile
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Wasn't young Obi-wan as a Padawan already knight level? He matched and ultimately defeated Maul, who defeated Qui-Gon.
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I'm not the best expert in SW, except for the movies and Clone Wars I've seen very little of the franchise, but researching to make my CRT and the next one planned, it depends.
As far as I know about the Force, there is a "limit" that everyone reaches, to the point that it's only interesting to use it in battle against other Force users when you're really above it (like Cal vs Vader). Otherwise, the same thing happens as happened with Yoda vs Dooko or Anakin vs Obi-Wan, where both using the Force simply end in a tie. In a way, Yoda vs Sidius ended in a tie in the use of the Force because both were thrown away (although in a general context Yoda lost).
So all that's left is the lightsaber fight, which, like in any fight of this type, depends.
The winning move by Padawan Obi Wan against Maul and Anakin was about having the advantage. Obi Wan surprised Maul by getting behind him and striking him, and against Anakin it was because he was on solid ground and had an advantage.
The final fight between Obi Wan and Maul in Rebels was also not about strength but posture. If you notice, both Obi Wan and Maul change their lightsaber stances a few times before starting the attack. Obi Wan used the right stances and sequences to defeat Maul quickly.
But as I said, apart from the movies and part of Clone Wars (which I watched as a child), I haven't seen anything else from the franchise, this is just what I felt during my research through videos and scans.
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With the delay in the general canon CRT being completed, I realized a lot of things I left out.
Even though I said the next CRT was done, I found a few more interesting things thanks to the databank.
I think after the next CRT the Jedi/Inquisitors/Siths/Acolytes and the like will finally have their P&A updated enough.
Even though I said the next CRT was done, I found a few more interesting things thanks to the databank.
I think after the next CRT the Jedi/Inquisitors/Siths/Acolytes and the like will finally have their P&A updated enough.
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STAR WARS: General additions to the Canon
Hello Yes, I know, I haven't applied the previous CRT to all profiles yet. But I only need to apply it to the blocked profiles (which I've already asked to be opened). And characters like Kylo Ren and Asajj Ventress, who chose not to apply the previous crt at the moment because I had a new idea...
Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera
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Literally all of you were wrong about Star Wars: Outlaws. It’s a phenomenal game with amazing gameplay and many powerscaling opportunities
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I've never seen anything about this game.
Well, I'm trying to at least make the Jedi and similar ones sufficiently updated.
After this crt now, for me to continue without getting confused, only when the legends are separated from the canon in their own pages (including the verse page)
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Does anyone know if this calculation is correct? Or does anyone know of a better way to calculate the temperature of a lightsaber? It would be nice to have a concrete number since it is the main weapon.
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I just got 100% of the achievements (not in the game because no one deserves to complete 100% of the files, considering that the game doesn't have collectible detectors or even fast travel and it's a pain to walk all over the map)
Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera
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Play Star Wars Outlaws next.I just got 100% of the achievements (not in the game because no one deserves to complete 100% of the files, considering that the game doesn't have collectible detectors or even fast travel and it's a pain to walk all over the map)
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It shouldn't run on my notebook.
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Well, that's it, but a finished crt.STAR WARS: General additions to the Canon
Hello Yes, I know, I haven't applied the previous CRT to all profiles yet. But I only need to apply it to the blocked profiles (which I've already asked to be opened). And characters like Kylo Ren and Asajj Ventress, who chose not to apply the previous crt at the moment because I had a new idea...vsbattles.com
I think the Jedi/Inquisitors/Sith Orders can now be used in vs threads.
There are still some minor powers specific to each character, but someone will add those later.
I don't have any plans for new crts at the moment (although I have gathered some scans).
I can't believe I did all this work just because I had started Fallen Order, it wasn't even my plan to do that.
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The Evil Resident's New Hope (Luke Skywalker vs. Albert Wesker)
Luke Skywalker: Luke is in character. Only has Anakin's last lightsaber. Post A New Hope Luke. Albert Wesker: Wesker is in character. Post-Virus - Without Uroboros. The fight takes place on Tatooine, in the streets of Mos Eisley. They start 10 meters apart. Equal Speed and SBA for the rest
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I lied to you.
STAR WARS Canon Edition: A few things.
Basically this. I put it this way so that you can better visualize all the references used. Summary/Explanations The Force: 1 - Do you know the justifications on the force page for Energy Manipulation, AE1, CM2, and Tranduality1? I basically just combined the justifications into one () and...
Unfortunately I can't help with calculations
Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera
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In Star Wars: Outlaws, Kay Vess has a Power Module that lets her blow apart boulders that thermal detonators can't scratch.
Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera
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"Lol"
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funni
"Lol"
Vader Destroys Rebels
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btw given the feat is canon, this should upgrade canon high tiers rigth? It's from the Black, White, and Red comic.
Epyriel
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The pixel scaling for the building feat is a bit dubious, assuming those 3 lines are 3 storeys is suspect when the building right to the left of it seems to have a single storey taller than all 3.Vader Destroys Rebels
btw given the feat is canon, this should upgrade canon high tiers rigth? It's from the Black, White, and Red comic.
Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera
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Star Wars video game characters to literally the rest of the verse after singlehandedly slaughtering all their Warhammer 40K matchups:
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I find it funny that most of the force users are scaled to a handful of calcs. There’s the Kanan/Ezra 8-A, Ahsoka 8-B, Luke High 8-C/High 7-C (which no one else scales too), and the Vader 8-A. Though I sorta disagree with early Kanan & Ezra being 8-A atm based on their asteroid calc. The 8-A feat they scale from heavily damaged that ship, while their feat only did light damage according to Kanan’s page. I think it makes more sense to downscale Kanan to 8-B+ and Ezra to 8-B/At most 8-B+. I would leave the Grand Inquisitor level characters at 8-A.
Just a bit of brief thoughts ig.
Just a bit of brief thoughts ig.
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I wish I could help with this, some of these calculations are so old they are from the Naruto forum era. But I don't know anything about it. All I want is G Class or/and Tier 7
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I have FINALLY finished my work on Mando's profile.
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Note 1: if someone can read the source code and make the By Himself section be scrollable, I'd be very grateful.
Note 2: many profiles aren't linked and many of them aren't created, such as Paz Vizla, The Armorer and mainly: Beskar'gam. Those I will create as soon as I am able to and link them all together at a later point before creating creating CRT
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Note 1: if someone can read the source code and make the By Himself section be scrollable, I'd be very grateful.
Note 2: many profiles aren't linked and many of them aren't created, such as Paz Vizla, The Armorer and mainly: Beskar'gam. Those I will create as soon as I am able to and link them all together at a later point before creating creating CRT
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For the Lightsaber in P&A just do this: use * Darksaber *I have FINALLY finished my work on Mando's profile.
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Note 1: if someone can read the source code and make the By Himself section be scrollable, I'd be very grateful.
Note 2: many profiles aren't linked and many of them aren't created, such as Paz Vizla, The Armorer and mainly: Beskar'gam. Those I will create as soon as I am able to and link them all together at a later point before creating creating CRT
And in the word darksaber you link to the lightsaber page. Much easier.
Nonynho
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Good hint, already fixed
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This is the 8-A Kanan calc which is in on VSBW. The value is 102 Tons of Tnt. But the type of ship damage he did was less than the actual the ship got in the calc. Plus the asteroid feat comes from Kanan & Ezra together. What is the downscaling rule?
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I don't know.
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Mando's physicals should be 9-A scaling FinnI have FINALLY finished my work on Mando's profile.
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Note 1: if someone can read the source code and make the By Himself section be scrollable, I'd be very grateful.
Note 2: many profiles aren't linked and many of them aren't created, such as Paz Vizla, The Armorer and mainly: Beskar'gam. Those I will create as soon as I am able to and link them all together at a later point before creating creating CRT
Could the value be divided by 2 if it's done by 2 people? Vader also has feats of destroying ships, so he might scale to this fully.
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Tbh Vader is a very different case. He scales to a much higher feat than them rn anyways. Not sure how the value splitting would work though since Kanan is much stronger than Ezra when they did the feat. If the calc result was split I think Kanan would be 8-B+, and not sure for Ezra.
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Suzaku Kururugi vs Luke Skywalker (Code Geass vs Star Wars)
I've decided to pit my favorite Sci-Fi series against my favorite mecha anime Luke Skywalker vs Suzaku Kururugi Return of the Jedi Luke and Lancelot Albion Suzaku will be used Speed is equalized Both are in character but are willing to win The battle takes place in a destroyed city Jedi...
Made a Luke thread
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It was only now that I was researching Star Wars to make CRTS that I realized how skilled trained Force users are? In terms of combat technique.
One of the first trainings for Force-sensitive children (less than 9 years old) is to block blaster beams with all their senses blocked, relying on pure instinctive Force reaction, a reaction that allowed Luke to hit the weak point of the Death Star that was considered impossible to hit even for Sci-fi computers.
So we have Padawans who are > these young people in the initial phase of training, and soon after we have Jedi > padawans (generalizing, because we have examples of padawans sometimes being more skilled than their masters, as in the case of Obi-Wan).
And then we have General Grievous, a non-sensitive who, just by pure skill/technique (without having any supernatural powers), was able to fight and defeat several Jedi at the same time. These same Jedi who, in addition to being as skilled as I mentioned above, have the aid of instinctive reaction, telepathy, precognition, and Force Sense.
And then we have the superior level of skill like Obi-Wan who defeated General Grievous in direct lightsaber combat relatively quickly.
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Seriously, after my attempt at a canon cosmology blog, I think I'll try to make a Jedi/Sith art blog or something.
One of the first trainings for Force-sensitive children (less than 9 years old) is to block blaster beams with all their senses blocked, relying on pure instinctive Force reaction, a reaction that allowed Luke to hit the weak point of the Death Star that was considered impossible to hit even for Sci-fi computers.
So we have Padawans who are > these young people in the initial phase of training, and soon after we have Jedi > padawans (generalizing, because we have examples of padawans sometimes being more skilled than their masters, as in the case of Obi-Wan).
And then we have General Grievous, a non-sensitive who, just by pure skill/technique (without having any supernatural powers), was able to fight and defeat several Jedi at the same time. These same Jedi who, in addition to being as skilled as I mentioned above, have the aid of instinctive reaction, telepathy, precognition, and Force Sense.
And then we have the superior level of skill like Obi-Wan who defeated General Grievous in direct lightsaber combat relatively quickly.
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Seriously, after my attempt at a canon cosmology blog, I think I'll try to make a Jedi/Sith art blog or something.
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To be fair, Grievous was nerfed in their final battle and he still nearly killed Obi-Wan, managing to break through his defense as stated by the novel. Grievous is such a monster that he was beginning to copy Vapaad from Mace Windu despite completely lacking any Force Sensitivity and scared Mace to the point of him not wanting fo fight him ever again even after nerfing him.
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Weakened in the sense of plot or something in the story? Because the first one doesn't count.
Besides, are you talking about this novel? Because it's not canon from the looks of it.
How come this guy doesn't have an extraordinary genius in his profile?
I'm more upset finding out about all this because someday I want to watch the entire Clone Wars series and some fans say that in this series he is totally underestimated by the script.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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That's Legends, which is the Grievous I'm referring to since I couldn't give less of a **** about Disney Star Wars.
Because he was purposely nerfed for TCW in comparison to his debut which was the original Clone Wars mini-series, made both less competent and removing some of his stuff he had back in the day. Him fighting Mace is Legends only.
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