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Sans vs Golden Freddy

VIZION99 said:
Also, what makes you think Golden Freddy can't mind hax Sans to death first?
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From what i know from the FNAF 1-2, i think it's more like illusions than anything.


All Sans has to do, is to throw a single bone and Golden Freddy gets destroyed.
 
Sans2345 said:
But i honestly don't see what's stopping Sans from throwing one of his bones and destroying Golden Freddy.
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Golden Freddy could make Sans see hallucinations, causing him to attack them instead of Golden Freddy.
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
Her agony is unaffected; that's the core issue. As long as that is true, Cassidy will continue to fight.
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How would Golden Freddy be able to fight Sans through agony, isn't agony basically just negative emotions and not physical?
 
Sans2345 said:
From what i know from the FNAF 1-2, i think it's more like illusions than anything.


All Sans has to do, is to throw a single bone and Golden Freddy gets destroyed.
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Golden Freddy has prior knowledge of Sans, this means he won't focus on mind games and will try to kill Sans quickly before Sans one shots him.
 
Sans2345 said:
How would Golden Freddy be able to fight Sans through agony, isn't agony basically just negative emotions and not physical?
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no?

Agony is the driving force for all supernatural phenomena, it is fueled by Negativity, and is capable of affecting reality as it pleases... Hell, Return to the pit "Yellow Bonnie" is a manifestation of Agony itself.


Some of the stuff that it can do that is not currently accepted includes. Time travel, death manipulation through touch, passive subjective reality, power nullification, illusion creation.
 
VIZION99 said:
Golden Freddy has prior knowledge of Sans, this means he won't focus on mind games and will try to kill Sans quickly before Sans one shots him.
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Even with prior knowledge i don't see how that helps Golden Freddy since Sans seems to have the AP advantage here as stated by StryumULTRA.
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
no?

Agony is the driving force for all supernatural phenomena, it is fueled by Negativity, and is capable of affecting reality as it pleases... Hell, Return to the pit "Yellow Bonnie" is a manifestation of Agony itself.


Some of the stuff that it can do that is not currently accepted includes. Time travel, death manipulation through touch, passive subjective reality, power nullification, illusion creation.
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That does not proof that agony users can survive the complete destruction of their souls.
 
Okay but what exactly is "Agony"? where is it? Would it not be stored in the soul and destroyed when sans soul nukes Cassidy?

Does it exist outside the soul? Considering it's FNAF, im willing to bet it's attached to the soul in some way.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Every attack Sans does is 9-A. Even assuming Freddy is 733 KiloJoules from the verse's page (it does not specify which 9-B value he scales from), Sans is 36.83 Megajoules, aka a gap of over x50.

Meaning that a single bone would destroy Freddy completely.

Sans just destroys the physical body over and over, that's counted as incapacitation.
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It won't matter much when Golden Freddy's hax is passive while Sans needs to summons his attacks and hit Golden Freddy with them.
 
Sans2345 said:
Even with prior knowledge i don't see how that helps Golden Freddy since Sans seems to have the AP advantage here as stated by StryumULTRA.
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Having a higher AP advantage does not mean they always win. That is like trying to say Thanos beats Golden Freddy just because his attack potency is higher.
 
Comiphorous said:
Okay but what exactly is "Agony"? where is it? Would it not be stored in the soul and destroyed when sans soul nukes Cassidy?

Does it exist outside the soul? Considering it's FNAF, im willing to bet it's attached to the soul in some way.
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Pretty sure it is connected to the soul.
 
VIZION99 said:
Having a higher AP advantage does not equal an instant Winton. That is like trying to say Thanos beats Golden Freddy just because his attack potency is higher.
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I'm pretty sure in vs battles wiki terms that a character having a higher AP advantage means they are more likely to win more than anything.
 
Comiphorous said:
Okay but what exactly is "Agony"? where is it? Would it not be stored in the soul and destroyed when sans soul nukes Cassidy?

Does it exist outside the soul? Considering it's FNAF, im willing to bet it's attached to the soul in some way.
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Agony is not connected to the soul; it just exists anywhere and everywhere where a being has been feeling extreme negative emotions. Agony can attach itself to literally anything, including but not limited to mirrors, dolls, beings, metal, and places.

So no, it doesn't exist within a soul, nor does it require it to exist.
 
VIZION99 said:
probably since nothing suggest agony users have survived soul destruction.
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So idk what the arguments are for golden freddy that still hold up.

Agony does jackshit when it's immediately destroyed. Cassidy doesn't immediately kill the opponent, even when she was convinced it was her literal murderer. Sans throws a single bone, and kills Cassidy?

Is that not how this goes down?
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
Agony is not connected to the soul; it just exists anywhere and everywhere where a being has been feeling extreme negative emotions. Agony can attach itself to literally anything, including but not limited to mirrors, dolls, beings, metal, and places.

So no, it doesn't exist within a soul, nor does it require it to exist.
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And if Cassidy has Agony... it attached itself to the suit...

which sans one shots.... which would destroy the agony....
 
Comiphorous said:
So idk what the arguments are for golden freddy that still hold up.

Agony does jackshit when it's immediately destroyed. Cassidy doesn't immediately kill the opponent, even when she was convinced it was her literal murderer. Sans throws a single bone, and kills Cassidy?

Is that not how this goes down?
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As stated by others, Sans has the AP advantage here as a single bone would destroy Golden Freddy.
 
Sans2345 said:
As stated by others, Sans has the AP advantage here as a single bone would destroy Golden Freddy.
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Wouldn't Golden Freddy kill Sans faster since his hax is passive while Sans need to activate his and land hit on Golden Freddy to win?
 
VIZION99 said:
Wouldn't Golden Freddy kill Sans faster since his hax is passive while Sans need to activate his and land hit on Golden Freddy to win?
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Why would Golden Freddy's agony still be around right after Golden Freddy getting destroyed into oblivion by Sans?
 
Comiphorous said:
Why would Agony stay around to kill sans? the negative emotions of Cassidy would be gone the second she's dead.
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No? Agony's sole goal is to fuel itself; it even believes itself to be what it represents.

And again, Agony is not bound to a specific user's life.
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
No? Agony's sole goal is to fuel itself; it even believes itself to be what it represents.

And again, Agony is not bound to a specific user's life.
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If agony's sole goal is fuel itself, why would it stick around after it's fuel is gone? It theoretically should leave when the only source of negative emotion is gone to go find some other murdered children to feed off of.
 
Comiphorous said:
If cassidy wouldn't immediately kill who she believed was her murderer, why would she immediately kill sans?
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Because Golden Freddy has prior knowledge on Sans, he would realize that Sans can one shot him so he focuses on trying to quickly kill Sans.
 
Comiphorous said:
If agony's sole goal is fuel itself, why would it stick around after it fuel is gone? It theoretically should leave when the only source of negative emotion is gone.
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By tormenting everything it comes into contact with, just like "yellow rabbit" did to Oswald

Just like how the Endo skeleton killed Henry. Agony is violent tormenting of everything it can.
 
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