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Correct me if I'm wrong but i think this MIGHT be a mismatch, Sans is in 9-A tier while Golden Freddy is only in the 9-C and 9-B tiers.
 
Also, can Sans just...use his soul hax to manipulate Golden Freddy's soul, because almost all of the FNAF characters have a soul.
 
And then there's the fact that I'm not really sure if Golden Freddy would survive a blast from one of his Gaster Blasters, not really sure if Golden Freddy would have any KARMA damage or not since Golden Freddy is just a innocent kid haunting a suit.
 
And then there's the fact that I'm not really sure if Golden Freddy would survive a blast from one of his Gaster Blasters, not really sure if Golden Freddy would have any KARMA damage or not since Golden Freddy is just a innocent kid haunting a suit.
Just gonna ask, have you checked the "remnant page"?
 
Also, Sans Karma effect would have the opposite effect, any negative emotions or pain would only make Agony users stronger.
 
Also, can Sans just destroy Golden Freddy's suit?

But then again, would the soul of Golden Freddy be able to "fight" Sans if he was able to destroy the suit that Golden Freddy was possessing?
 
How would that work, the souls in the FNAF games only possess inanimate objects like animatronics, not living beings or creatures.
Remnant and Agony feats cross scales. We also have Cassidy creating the UCN, and we have Andrew in the books possessing William.

So that is wrong, both game and book-wise.
 
Remnant and Agony feats cross scales. We also have Cassidy creating the UCN, and we have Andrew in the books possessing William.

So that is wrong, both game and book-wise.
But aren't we just using FNAF 1-2 Golden Freddy for this match and nothing from the books or UCN?
 
But aren't we just using FNAF 1-2 Golden Freddy for this match and nothing from the books or UCN?
As I said, Remnant and Agony cross-scales, and the "UCN Fredbear" is just his own character when it's in UCN.

So all abilities are in his FNAF 1 key. (His UCN key is more or less just an avatar he uses to torment Afton)
 
Also, can Sans just destroy Golden Freddy's suit?

But then again, would the soul of Golden Freddy be able to "fight" Sans if he was able to destroy the suit that Golden Freddy was possessing?
No, Sans has non-physical interaction and soul manipulation. HIs attacks would not only destroy Golden Freddy's body but his soul too.
 
With that in mind, i think that Sans would basically destroy Golden Freddy's soul with one of his attacks since he has non-physical interaction.

I'm gonna vote for Sans, he should be able to destroy Golden Freddy's soul with one of his attacks.
 
With that in mind, i think that Sans would basically destroy Golden Freddy's soul with one of his attacks since he has non-physical interaction.

I'm gonna vote for Sans, he should be able to destroy Golden Freddy's soul with one of his attacks.
Destroying the soul is not a wincon, he needs to deal with "agony" so either empathy or memory manipulation.

Or do we wanna create another"yellow bonnie" from Return to the Pit?
 
Destroying the soul is not a wincon, he needs to deal with "agony" so either empathy or memory manipulation.

Or do we wanna create another"yellow bonnie" from Return to the Pit?
I don't know if that will affect Sans that much, but i could be wrong.

I don't really see anything that stops him from destroying Golden Freddy's soul, and if Sans can destroy Golden Freddy's soul that technically counts as a win.
 
I don't know if that will affect Sans that much, but i could be wrong.

I don't really see anything that stops him from destroying Golden Freddy's soul, and if Sans can destroy Golden Freddy's soul that technically counts as a win.
You missed my point, what I said was destroying Golden Freddy's soul, is not a wincon as long as their Agony Remains.
 
Could Sans destroy agony, or is it something that he cannot physically destroy?
 
Why cannot Sans just physically obliterate Freddy though?

Also KR is not literally that, it's just a status condition with a poison-like effect on both the target's SOUL and body.
Sans physically attacking is not in character for him, he prefers his bones and gaster blasters to attack.
 
Why cannot Sans just physically obliterate Freddy though?
Never claimed he couldn't, the issue is dealing with Agony.


Also KR is not literally that, it's just a status condition with a poison-like effect on both the target's SOUL and body.
Both Agony and Remnant neutralize it through healing, and all negative effects will only boost Agony's power. And I have already explained why killing the soul is not a wincon.
 
Never claimed he couldn't, the issue is dealing with Agony.



Both Agony and Remnant neutralize it through healing, and all negative effects will only boost Agony's power. And I have already explained why killing the soul is not a wincon.
Where was it implied that Golden Freddy can survive as long as he has agony. It only mentioned remnant users lived as long as their remnant is not burned away and Sans gaster blasters and soul hax probably would burn away his remnant.
 
Also, remnant and agony users are never shown to survive the complete destruction of their soul.
 
I still think that Sans physically destroying Golden Freddy and his soul should technically count as a win in vs battles wiki terms.
 
With that in mind, i think that Sans would basically destroy Golden Freddy's soul with one of his attacks since he has non-physical interaction.

I'm gonna vote for Sans, he should be able to destroy Golden Freddy's soul with one of his attacks.
Also, what makes you think Golden Freddy can't mind hax Sans to death first?
 
Sans physically attacking is not in character for him, he prefers his bones and gaster blasters to attack.
Every attack Sans does is 9-A. Even assuming Freddy is 733 KiloJoules from the verse's page (it does not specify which 9-B value he scales from), Sans is 36.83 Megajoules, aka a gap of over x50.

Meaning that a single bone would destroy Freddy completely.
Both Agony and Remnant neutralize it through healing, and all negative effects will only boost Agony's power. And I have already explained why killing the soul is not a wincon.
Sans just destroys the physical body over and over, that's counted as incapacitation.
 
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