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Goku's Limited Space Survival

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This may be off topic but I personally always agreed with Limited Space Survival for both continuities since we see several instances of Saiyans being in a vacuum or vacuum-like environment (this one for the manga is debatable but Jaco and other members of the Galactic Patrol do also have Self-Sustenance Type 1) without immediately dying.

Yes, they cannot breathe in space. This has been consistently pointed out several times across the series, but the fact they can fight in that environment without the effects of a vacuum crushing their lungs should guarantee them having this, as this also holds true to how they can fight underwater for long periods of time.
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Isn’t there an episode where goten and trunks was also freezing in space
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To be fair, we don't know how long they were in that spaceship lol.
 
SwordLegendz01 said:
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I see. In that case, we should probably rely on our own Translation Helpers rather than assuming this website translated everything correctly.

Especially since it's Japanese, which I know can have a lot of nuance around words with many meanings like "space".
 
FinePoint said:
I see. In that case, we should probably rely on our own Translation Helpers rather than assuming this website translated everything correctly.

Especially since it's Japanese, which I know can have a lot of nuance around words with many meanings like "space".
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Where are the raws though :d (Do they exist)

Aren't these summaries are just fanmade from those who watches it?
 
Some things don’t necessarily need to be said, they should be seen and even understood...

Anyway, it doesn't matter.
It seems this thread has received 3 "Agree" votes from the staff members.

We need to wait 48 hours for the changes to take effect.
 
48 hours have passed now. Shouldn't something have been apllied by now?

I checked Goku's page, his profile is locked. It needs to be unlocked so changes can be made.
 
I think it should be enough. But just to be sure, you can read this thread since several members have shared multiple scans and videos.
 
SwordLegendz01 said:
I've only been through a few of them, maybe need to add some more scans?
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Maybe something like this for the anime, I based it a bit on the Invincible profiles (though I'm surprised Viltrumites don't have SS since they have way more showcases than it than DB lol):
Enhanced Lung Capacity & Limited Space Survival (Saiyans can survive underwater and breathe far above the stratosphere for long periods of time, as well as even withstand the vacuum of space)
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You could probably remove "Enhanced Lung Capacity" but the scan provided earlier from the Toriyama interview does state they have strong lungs, so I thought adding it could work.
 
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OculoOmnibus said:
Maybe something like this for the anime, I based it a bit on the Invincible profiles (though I'm surprised Viltrumites don't have SS since they have way more showcases than it than DB lol):

You could probably remove "Enhanced Lung Capacity" but the scan provided earlier from the Toriyama interview does state they have strong lungs, so I thought adding it could work.
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Good work
 
UnoRebaixadO said:
That's really outdated, bro
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This.....says the same thing mine said.

""Within a very short time, a matter of 10 to 15 seconds, you will become unconscious because of a lack of oxygen," according to Stefaan de Mey, a senior strategy officer at the European Space Agency (ESA) charged with coordinating the strategy area for human and robotic exploration."

And my link

"The likelihood of this scenario has been debated for years, but most experts agree that it is a pretty good representation of reality. The movie's director Stanley Kubrick and author Arthur C. Clarke strove for accuracy in the depiction of spaceflight and based Bowman's airlock scene on NASA and US Air Force experiments exploring the limits of survivability in low pressure atmospheres. This research, conducted during the 1950s and 1960s, concluded that a human exposed to a vacuum will remain conscious for ten to fifteen seconds and can survive for up to 90 seconds with relatively minor and reversible side effects. The exact limits are unknown, but death is believed to be unavoidable after two to four minutes of exposure. Contrary to depictions in many other popular movies, a person exposed to the vacuum of space does not instantly pass out or freeze to death, the body does not explode, and blood does not boil."
 
AerrowStorm1 said:
This.....says the same thing mine said.

""Within a very short time, a matter of 10 to 15 seconds, you will become unconscious because of a lack of oxygen," according to Stefaan de Mey, a senior strategy officer at the European Space Agency (ESA) charged with coordinating the strategy area for human and robotic exploration."

And my link

"The likelihood of this scenario has been debated for years, but most experts agree that it is a pretty good representation of reality. The movie's director Stanley Kubrick and author Arthur C. Clarke strove for accuracy in the depiction of spaceflight and based Bowman's airlock scene on NASA and US Air Force experiments exploring the limits of survivability in low pressure atmospheres. This research, conducted during the 1950s and 1960s, concluded that a human exposed to a vacuum will remain conscious for ten to fifteen seconds and can survive for up to 90 seconds with relatively minor and reversible side effects. The exact limits are unknown, but death is believed to be unavoidable after two to four minutes of exposure. Contrary to depictions in many other popular movies, a person exposed to the vacuum of space does not instantly pass out or freeze to death, the body does not explode, and blood does not boil."
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your text from 2007:

"The exact limits are unknown, but death is believed to be unavoidable after two to four minutes of exposure. Contrary to depictions in many other popular films, a person exposed to the vacuum of space does not instantly pass out or freeze to death, the body does not explode, and blood does not boil."

the article I sent from 2023:

"That may seem like a very short time, but it's because you would not want to hold your breath before being thrust into outer space. In the dark void of space, the oxygen that sustains us would become a serious problem.

The oxygen starts expanding and rupturing your lungs, tearing them apart — and that would cause boiling and bubbling of your blood, which immediately will cause embolism and have a fatal impact on your body," de Mey said."

clearly outdated, bruh... they are literally making opposite claims here
 
UnoRebaixadO said:
your text from 2007:

"The exact limits are unknown, but death is believed to be unavoidable after two to four minutes of exposure. Contrary to depictions in many other popular films, a person exposed to the vacuum of space does not instantly pass out or freeze to death, the body does not explode, and blood does not boil."

the article I sent from 2023:

"That may seem like a very short time, but it's because you would not want to hold your breath before being thrust into outer space. In the dark void of space, the oxygen that sustains us would become a serious problem.

The oxygen starts expanding and rupturing your lungs, tearing them apart — and that would cause boiling and bubbling of your blood, which immediately will cause embolism and have a fatal impact on your body," de Mey said."

clearly outdated, bruh... they are literally making opposite claims here
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My friend. Both literally say it would take 10-15 seconds for you to lose consciousness and you would survive for at least 60 to 90 seconds. The only part that's outdated is if blood would boil or not.


Many articles state the same 10-15 second consciousness, 90 second survivability time window. To the point it seems to be common consensus. In fact, as of 2024, the same time limit is marked.

Again here

And here.

And here.
 
AerrowStorm1 said:
My friend. Both literally say it would take 10-15 seconds for you to lose consciousness and you would survive for at least 60 to 90 seconds. The only part that's outdated is if blood would boil or not.


Many articles state the same 10-15 second consciousness, 90 second survivability time window. To the point it seems to be common consensus. In fact, as of 2024, the same time limit is marked.

Again here

And here.

And here.
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It seems fair But Goku definitely stayed in space for more than 15 seconds against Bills
 
UnoRebaixadO said:
It seems fair But Goku definitely stayed in space for more than 15 seconds against Bills
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In the anime? Possibly. It's ambiguous unless you use the Kazenshuu summaries, which are fan summaries, but it's ambiguous enough to count it IMO.

The manga OTOH seems to imply dragon ball stratospheres stretch farther than IRL ones, as it's literally labeled as them fighting in Earth's stratosphere, and later in Dragon Ball Super Chapter 49, we have them in a similar area on Namek and Goku and Vegeta are directly stated to still be in the Atmosphere.
 
@SwordLegendz01 I have a better compilation of feats in general that supports the thread, so I'd assume it would look something like this once the CRT gets accepted.
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(You might want to add a note about them not being able to breathe in space since that's highlighted a lot in the series)
 
I honestly want to separate the manga and anime, because we know for sure that their conversation in the manga shows the "stratosphere" very clearly, but we also see Goku and Gas fighting on an asteroid/planetoid where they are likely capable of fighting there. Unlike the anime, I won't bring up the Kanzenshuu fan summary. However, in the anime it is also said that they change their battle location to the "very edge of the stratosphere", on the other hand they actually fly higher when Bulma and co. interrupt their fight

We also see Beerus descend a little closer to Goku to flick his forehead which then causes him to fall to Earth, which suggests they were also higher before Goku fell to get up once again, although Beerus descending closer to an exhausted Goku still looks like he is higher than Pan who went probably in the stratosphere as well

Maybe them being able to fight underwater just fine is something that supports that they should also be able to hold their breath in space for a very long time

Do we need to separate the albums between Toei, DBS Anime, and DBS Manga?
 
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