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If the barrier was concentrated in blocking the gravity of the black hole even in front of where Kenjaku is standing, then the gravity wouldn’t be able to reach him in the first place.

More realistically it was always concentrated in the outline we see in the later panel when the black hole actually forms.
The only thing we know the barrier did was protect earth from the blackhole. In other words it was contained inside the star barrier, idk why there's arguments going that it was also protecting kenjaku or suppressing the gravity to make it weaker inside. I havent seen any proof that the barrier was weakening the gravity even inside it rather than just containing it.
 
Is there anything wrong with saying it not destroying the insides of the barrier immediately is not an anti feat as this is the same barrier that was able to contain a much larger black hole.
 
The only thing we know the barrier did was protect earth from the blackhole. In other words it was contained inside the star barrier, idk why there's arguments going that it was also protecting kenjaku or suppressing the gravity to make it weaker inside. I havent seen any proof that the barrier was weakening the gravity even inside it rather than just containing it.
Exactly, which is why it cannot be responsible for shielding the area around Kenjaku.


It does do more than that, it literally absorbs a portion of the ground into itself, just not the entire planet as it was prevent from doing so by Yuki and Tengen.

So if the standard for you that it has to do more than just crack the ground it does. It meets all of the wiki's too.
Yes exactly, at that point it had become a black hole. Not before while it was barely cracking the pavement while people were still monologuing.
 
The problem is that the small cracks in the pavement are the only environmental effects while Kenjaku has an entire monologue.

The calculated gravitational acceleration is over 12 quadrillion times that of Earth. Yet is only cracking the pavement.

Do you see the issue yet?
So this shouldnt be an issue.
 
So this shouldnt be an issue.
If you are saying that, then you have missed the point.

If Tengen shields the area around where Kenjaku is standing, he would be blocking the gravity from reaching him.

He obviously has no intention of doing that, so he concentrates his barrier in a larger enclosure so that Kenjaku gets hit with the full force of the black hole (which makes a neat outline the the later panel when the black hole actually forms).

Of course since he is not blocking the area around Kenjaku, that means the environment where he is standing is not shielding, which brings us back to the anti-feat of him monologuing while the ground barely cracks.
 
Yes exactly, at that point it had become a black hole.
A black hole becomes a black hole when there is a black void absorbing everything i.e. the Black void Yuki makes when she is on the ground. Even more so when it's called a black hole and even given a explanation of how it works.

Not before while it was barely cracking the pavement while people were still monologuing.
doesn't discredit the feat, happens all of the time in fiction. Stuff like this doesn't make it not a black hole. Nor does it make it weaker, less effective, not real etc...

Things in fiction don't always reflect everything in reality 100%, look at the wiki
 
If you are saying that, you have missed the point.

If Tengen shields the area around where Kenjaku is standing, he would be blocking the gravity from reaching him.

He obviously has no intention of doing that, so he concentrates his barrier in a larger enclosure so that Kenjaku gets hit with the full force of the black hole.

Of course since he is not blocking the area around Kenjaku, that means the environment where he is standing is not shielding, which brings leads to the anti-feat of him monologuing while the ground barely cracks.
This is mostly headcanon. All we know is tengen kept the effects contained within the barrier, thats literally it. There's no indication that tengen contained it by doing a concentration or anything of the sort. Its not like tengen uses anti gravity to contain it(and while we dont know how tengen contained it if his barrier was able to use the properties of anti gravity he would have helped yuki and choso) where it'll weaken yuki's attack.
 
This is mostly headcanon. All we know is tengen kept the effects contained within the barrier, thats literally it. There's no indication that tengen contained it by doing a concentration or anything of the sort. Its not like tengen uses anti gravity to contain it(and while we dont know how tengen contained it if his barrier was able to use the properties of anti gravity he would have helped yuki and choso) where it'll weaken yuki's attack.
The only headcanon here is the idea that he is somehow both shielding the area around Kenjaku yet also allowing the gravitational pull to pass through the surroundings to Kenjaku without affecting what it is traveling through.

Where Tengen is actually concentrated his barrier can be taken straight out of the perfect cutoff in the ground on the panel where the black hole actually forms.


At this point I’ve repeated myself multiple times to multiple different people, so I’m just going to hope I’ve communicated my points clearly enough that further contentions can be addressed to the arguments I’ve already listed.
 
If you are saying that, then you have missed the point.

If Tengen shields the area around where Kenjaku is standing, he would be blocking the gravity from reaching him.

He obviously has no intention of doing that, so he concentrates his barrier in a larger enclosure so that Kenjaku gets hit with the full force of the black hole (which makes a neat outline the the later panel when the black hole actually forms).

Of course since he is not blocking the area around Kenjaku, that means the environment where he is standing is not shielding, which brings us back to the anti-feat of him monologuing while the ground barely cracks.
At this point you don't understand what is happening. Tengen is preventing the black hole from encompassing the entire planet buy keeping it limited to the confines of his barrier. Tengen and Yuki both limit the range so it doesn't destroy earth, that means kenjaku and everything in the range they set the black hole to would only be affected.

Now the whole it crack the ground is not an anti-feat as it doesn't just crack the ground it absorbs a portion of it. The issue of characters monologuing while this happens is not an issue as this is fiction small things like this happen all of the time and you accepted. Just look at every other black hole feat (every other feat in general). These things happen as are just swatted away.

The only headcanon here is the idea that he is somehow both shielding the area around Kenjaku yet also allowing the gravitational pull to pass through the surroundings to Kenjaku without affecting what it is traveling through.
idk who said this since I've only seen you say it, and if others have said they either miscommunicated or are wrong themselves. All tengen is doing is preventing the black hole from destroying earth with yuki by keeping it confined to a certain range in his domain.
 
The only headcanon here is the idea that he is somehow both shielding the area around Kenjaku yet also allowing the gravitational pull to pass through the surroundings to Kenjaku without affecting what it is traveling through.

Where Tengen is actually concentrated his barrier can be taken straight out of the perfect cutoff in the ground on the panel where the black hole actually forms.


At this point I’ve repeated myself multiple times to multiple different people, so I’m just going to hope I’ve communicated my points clearly enough that further contentions can be addressed to the arguments I’ve already listed.
I think both of you guys are headcanoing pretty hard.

Quite literally all we know is tengen's barrier held it back from swallowing the world, there was no protection given anywhere inside.

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And this most certainly does not indicate any concentration, the cutoff is just the area where the star corridor is located.
 
idk who said this since I've only seen you say it, and if others have said they either miscommunicated or are wrong themselves. All tengen is doing is preventing the black hole from destroying earth with yuki by keeping it confined to a certain range in his domain.
Damn I thought you were the one arguing for this , mb
 
..So how does that prove that tengen concentrated on the outer shell? This is just the physical boundaries of the barrier.
You do not think it auspicious that he succeeds in shielding the worst of the effects only at the very limit of the barrier?
 
At this point if I still cannot adequately communicate to you guys the idea that if Tengen employs his barrier to shield the immediate area where Kenjaku is standing that it would also necessarily shield Kenjaku from the effects of the black hole (and thus is unlikely to do so) then I am going to give up.

It is 6 in the morning and even I need sleep.
 
Ima go sleep so here's my thoughts on the black hole not causing much environmental damage:
Tengen's barrier was able to contain a black hole substantially more powerful than the one proposed in the crt, it sustaining minor damage from a barely human sized black hole isnt an anti feat.

The one and only thing tengen barrier did was keep it contained within to not affect the outside world. Saying it weakened the gravity around kenjaku or any other way it affected the gravity inside is pure headcanon.
 
It got debunked. JJK goes down to 8A I think :v
Where it belongs
The 8-A calc also had issues

Not only was the 7-A upgrade a massive disaster but the OP also made it so there was nothing else to fallback on and made it so that the previous stuff was going to be removed in exchange for potentially higher numbers (which fell apart) and now we’re stuck with 8-B for everyone
 
The 8-A calc also had issues

Not only was the 7-A upgrade a massive disaster but the OP also made it so there was nothing else to fallback on and made it so that the previous stuff was going to be removed in exchange for potentially higher numbers (which fell apart) and now we’re stuck with 8-B for everyone
Wdym stuck at 8-B for everyone
 
We still have Naoya and Gojo powering China calcs right? That puts them around 8-A to Low 7-C. That should be good enough to skim for at least a 7-C or even a High 7-C feat they could scale to.
OP mentioned they wanted to remove the Gojo nation calc. The Naoya one I forgot about but I don’t remember if it was eval’d
 
Considering I haven’t found any problems about uruame. Her town level stuff should still be viable for scaling to Ryu, we have another calc for mechamaru at town level as well.

Yuta and Geto beam clash has another calc at large town level iirc too
 
Considering I haven’t found any problems about uruame. Her town level stuff should still be viable for scaling to Ryu, we have another calc for mechamaru at town level as well.
Some people took issue with that cuz it was thermal energy as opposed to energy yield of destroyed material like Ryu's blast
Yuta and Geto beam clash has another calc at large town level iirc too
If that gets accepted, it would only scale to a death binding vow energy beam and Uzumaki with over 6,000 Cursed Spirits
 
Some people took issue with that cuz it was thermal energy as opposed to energy yield of destroyed material like Ryu's blast
It says maximum output I don’t get the problem really but if a crt needs to be made sure. I’m gonna take a break from here anyways
If that gets accepted, it would only scale to a death binding vow energy beam and Uzumaki with over 6,000 Cursed Spirits
Yeah Ik I’m just saying that there’s still tier 7 feats for special grades
 
The 8-A calc also had issues

Not only was the 7-A upgrade a massive disaster but the OP also made it so there was nothing else to fallback on and made it so that the previous stuff was going to be removed in exchange for potentially higher numbers (which fell apart) and now we’re stuck with 8-B for everyone
JJK now weaker then RWBY characters (As a fan of RWBY), the JJK verse is cooked
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