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Can we ******* stop spamming Deku fights please? 
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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
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Can we ******* stop spamming Deku fights please?
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How the hell did Deku win against that thing?
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Nah feed my boy. He's hungryLike we have so many other characters Deku already has like 17 wins let someone else fight
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I love how the wiki doesn’t accept the 50x multiplier for thisHow the hell did Deku win against that thing?
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50×? He went SSJ2, give him the full 100×.
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The form is literally called a super saiyan in the series yet we aren’t allowed to apply the multiplier to it
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Yes.The form is literally called a super saiyan in the series yet we aren’t allowed to apply the multiplier to it
Why do you think it should apply lmao
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Because it's clearly a super Saiyan duhhh
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Really wish Inosuke Vs Bakugo was possible here since they're both large town but Battle Spirit ruins it
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I don't think that matters.
Afo and Shigaraki have that too and Bakugo fights both of them.
Hell he was the only student at the time of AFO's intro that didn't shit blood being right in front of him.
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Lemillion Vs Toji was cooked due to battle spirit. Battle spirit in Demon Slayer causes paralysis from fear, breathing problems, and internal bleeding
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Demon Slayer cast have aura that causes paralysis, fear, and internal damage. Being able to avoid feel fear isn't protecting him from the other stuff.
The current profiles for the DS cast is stupid as they've never shown such a thing. They do have a battle aura, but it doesn't do whatever that does. They've taken what Muzan did to Akaza when he returned after killing Rengoku, and made it so everyone can do it for some reason.
That battle aura stuff needs to be fixed to what it actually is.
Lemillion vs Toji? From Jujutsu Kaisen? I think you made a mistake.
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Wait I meant Lemillion Vs Rengoku whoops. Lemillion Vs Toji was a fun fight
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Honestly I dont think battle spirit is possible to be updated on here since fear, paralysis, and and breathing problems originated from the slayers and the upper moons with Shinobu being the one to cause breathing problems to a demon while getting fear haxed. Muzan is the only one that has shown internal bleeding but its debatable whether or not its from battle spirit or his connection to demons since Muzan's battle spirit broke the windows in the same scene.
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That Muzan scene ? Pretty sure he breaks glass and the windows swing open too in that scene so that is definitely a physical force there too. Seems more like just Supernatural demon powers since no one else does anything like that.
Sure Koko flexes his aura but all it does it alert the demons, not bleeding or anything. Other than that, not one instance in my memory.
Either way it won't matter. Because Supernatural Willpower counters fear inducement and paralysis stuff from mental suppression (it's not like Demon slayers are actually spewing neurotoxin in the air, it's just flight, fight freeze response being chose to be in freeze). And Bakugo has Supernatural Willpower on his profile
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Which demon ?
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We go by the profiles. If we ignored our own profiles, what's the point of this wiki? We can just ignore things we don't like?
The profiles state their aura causes paralysis, fear, and internal damage. Nothing that says you can ignore it with Supernatural Willpower or whatever.
We know it's not true, but we don't ignore things on the profiles because of our own opinions or beliefs. Until that is changed, they stomp via passive haxs.
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I could argue against fear and bleeding even with in the wiki rules are neither are win cons. But paralysis so GG Bakugo. Can't argue against the rule point, if we don't have them then it turns into a YouTube vs poll / edit comment section. And you don't want to see that. I have, it was... horrifying.
Well I guess we need to correct Demon slayer profiles and add resistance to Fear and Mind based paralysis granted by supernatural willpower because it's pretty common, I mean duh willpower vs fear is quite literally a fictional staple.
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Man, I hate Demon Slayer profiles.
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Yes since he would be the current holder of OFA if he knew how that attack worked.
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Technically yes, but he doesn't get it as an ability on the profile, neither does All Might.
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As far as i know, that whole fear hax and aura system in kny was going to be fixed and overhauled by Catbowtie, sometime after the first movie came out. So, you might have more info if you asked him specifically.
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That man said 10 layers of fear had bro. Btw I already explained to Catbowtie how battle spirit and fear hax works for Demon Slayer earlier.
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Just resist it, lol
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Was reading chapter 288 and noticed regarding Hawks and Mirko
This cargo ship states it would arrive in 5 minutes but if they were Hawks or Mirko they'd have already arrive
If the average cargo ship can fly at 900 kilometers per hour, if Hawks and Mirko have 5 minutes the plane, this would put their travel speed over a long distance at around mach 2
This cargo ship states it would arrive in 5 minutes but if they were Hawks or Mirko they'd have already arrive
If the average cargo ship can fly at 900 kilometers per hour, if Hawks and Mirko have 5 minutes the plane, this would put their travel speed over a long distance at around mach 2
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Important to note they were travelling at top speed as well and they still said Mirko and Hawks would be faster. Could be a useful feat if the travel speed thing eventually gets implementedWas reading chapter 288 and noticed regarding Hawks and Mirko
This cargo ship states it would arrive in 5 minutes but if they were Hawks or Mirko they'd have already arrive
If the average cargo ship can fly at 900 kilometers per hour, if Hawks and Mirko have 5 minutes the plane, this would put their travel speed over a long distance at around mach 2
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Spider sister demon. Actually I noticed something when rewatching season 3. Zohakuten’s battle spirit replicated Shinobu’s battle spirit damages and was even damaging Tanjiro’s heart from sheer battle spirit. Akaza’s internal bleeding might legitimately just be battle spirit.
Cool featWas reading chapter 288 and noticed regarding Hawks and Mirko
This cargo ship states it would arrive in 5 minutes but if they were Hawks or Mirko they'd have already arrive
If the average cargo ship can fly at 900 kilometers per hour, if Hawks and Mirko have 5 minutes the plane, this would put their travel speed over a long distance at around mach 2
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Spider sister demon got scared. Nothing like internal damage or anything.
Spider sister was scared because Shinobu was doing the equivalent of holding a glock to her head.
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Spider sister demon got fear haxed by shinobu’s battle spirit (it is battle spirit because she was comparing shinobu’s battle spirit to rui’s). Shinobu’s battle spirit was causing breathing problems to the spider sister. Breathing problems is half of the description for battle spirit on the wiki.
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Ah okay. But you have to be wayy stronger than your opponent to make them submit via battle spirt. Which doesn't work in Inosuke vs Bakugo since they are at similar level of power (well the key we are using anyway, Bakugo solos the verse if we use anything past s5)
It's not exactly new to MHA characters anyway. AFO, Stain, Shigaraki and All Might have show similar ability. AFO straight up caused Death hallucinations. Notably, Bakugo was the only student who was unaffected by AFO despite standing right in front of him.
There are conditions to achieve the application of the hax which we can't just ignore. Conditions being -
1. The target must be weaker
2. The target must have low willpower.
Neither are true for Bakugo. He is both stronger and has a higher willpower. There is also the fact that Inosuke himself shows heavy resistance to this hax via willpower. He would have jumped Akaza but Rengoku stopped him and he couldn't keep up with the speed. Same goes with Tanjiro facing off against Demons of far higher calibaer by again just willpower.
Fear hax is absolutely not a wincon in anyway.
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Lemillion got stomped against Rengoku despite Rengoku being the weaker one (I really wish he didn’t because it was a good matchup)
I don’t think willpower alone resist the aura of demon slayer character’s itself that causes it in the first place. Which is why in fights a character needs both resistance to fear and paralysis so it’s not a stomp.
There’s also another issue how battle spirit is stronger than AFO Shiggy’s fear. Tanjiro resisted being fear haxxed by a stronger battle spirit when he used slayer mark
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You can make Inosuke Vs Bakugo if you want to try but battle spirit will probably stomp based off of something similar in this scene where even Tanjiro's heart was getting damaged. Tanjiro was already immune to the lower moons battle spirits
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Yeah but
1. Insokue isn't a Upper Moon Demon. Demons being explicitly supernatural.
2. Tanjiro is was weaker than Zohukuten. Bakugo isn't weaker than Inosuke. He is stronger by almost 20%
Yes it will be a stomp but that's because of the wiki's illogical rules that don't question the Activation requirements for the hax presented.
Again and I will say this for the last time. Bakugo doesn't meet the requirements.
Also how does Battle spirit scale anyway ? So Tanjiro is immune to lower moon tier battle spirit because he is stronger than them now ? But Bakugo was unaffected by All For one who is much stronger than Bakugo and well millions of times stronger than the entire Demon slayer verse. And yes AFO does have Fear Inducement and Illusion inducement in his abilities list.
So does Prime All Might lose to DS characters because of battle Aura ? Does Goku lose too ? There has to be Activation requirements and limits right.
Not to mention whats a little heartburn to the character who went on to fight AFO with a stitched up heart and a open ribcage. Bakugo can power through the pain easily. It's completely in character.
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The upper moons aren’t using some supernatural ability given to them from being a Demon. It’s all derived from battle spirit. Based off of how cross verse works, Bakugo doesn’t reach the requirements to resist battle spirit. The bakugo being used to fight Inosuke doesn’t even have fear resistance bare minimum since it’s pre final act. Even then, Shigaraki’s own scan justifications for fear includes him inducing fear to final war arc Bakugo. Alongside this, battle spirit is still stronger than Shigaraki’s fear inducement.
I don’t even know how battle spirit scales in verse. The hashiras and the kamado squad has this
- Enhanced Fear Manipulation & Paralysis Inducement (Immune to Muzan Kibutsuji's aura that made Akaza bleed and paralyzed him in fear)
Battle spirit would just be pointless against stronger characters if they themselves aren’t strong enough to follow up on it. Lemillion got stomped last time and potentially even Bakugo if that fights gets created because they genuinely can’t fight back at all the moment their aura overwhelms them. That’s what causes the stomp. (Also the scaling chain for battle spirit is dumb to the point it reached enhanced resistances)
Btw I don’t like this because there’s multiple matchups I would’ve created but they were battle spirit victims
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In short people have no idea about how the ability works and just posted it on the profile. Truly stupid.
How do you measure fear inducement being stronger anyway ? AFO and Shiggy both cause Death Hallucinations, Paralysis and fear. And again for the 5th time Bakugo is unaffected by AFO in Season 3 and his personality hasn't changed much anyway so you can well apply this to Episode 1 Bakugo.
If this reasoning works (Immune to Muzan Kibutsuji's aura that made Akaza bleed and paralyzed him in fear)
Then this should work to (Immune to All for One's aura that caused hallucinations of death to Deku, Todoroki, Red Riot, Ingenium, and Creati)
This nothing but a bad system that doesn't profile hax on a case by case basis. Bakugo by all accounts should Murder Inosuke right there. Even with "heart damage" as he can just push past pain.
Also what is the counter to Battle spirit ? Willpower ? Seems so as it narratively obvious in Demon Slayer. And Bakugo has Super natural willpower.
Characters with this ability may be able to resist enormous amounts of pain, act even when unconscious or well beyond what they should be able to endure, resist possession and mind control, affect their environment, or even go against natural phenomena, such as death or the limits imposed by reality.
Why is Fear not here ? Quite literally a fictional trope of Overpowering Fear with Willpower.
Yeah this is stupid. Outside of the wiki's rules in a actual logical conversation Bakugo stomps Inosuke.
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