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Kamen Rider W vs Nyan! R2M3 of Reaper Hates Life Tourney (7-0-0) GRACE STARTED

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MC Shadow in the house!:​

Now, the two in one Kamen Rider is up against a furry feline. Things won't look so fuzzy and cuddly when they fight!
Basically, this fight can be summarized in one image:
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But who shall advance to the next round? We will see now.​

Keys and Versions used:​

Default Gold Extreme (7-A) & Default Nyan (7-A)

Location:​

Due to SBA, Central Park. Starting Distance is 100 meters, as determined by SBA, due to W's abilities being that much in range.


Battle Conditions:​

  • Speed is equalized
  • Everything else unmentioned will be according to SBA (Most of my battle conditions can't really be applied anyway tbh)

Votings:​

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Credited to TheGoldenSmurf For The Nyan fanart; IDK who the W fanart belongs to

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Two Guys Screaming At A Cat (At Least 150 Megatons of TNT, At least 750 Megatons with Maximum Drive)@IxaSaga, @Shadowslash125, @Arkansalter2, @Sero, @Naito-desu, @EddisherSound, @MannyQ361
The Cat In Question (315.12 Megatons of TNT)
El Coin Flip:
 
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Damn, its unfortunate Nyan is matched up against someone thats suited up from head to toe. Does W's suit have any holes that Nyan could enter through?
 
Damn, its unfortunate Nyan is matched up against someone thats suited up from head to toe. Does W's suit have any holes that Nyan could enter through?
Well this unfortunately isn't an issue. He can shrink this small
 
Well this unfortunately isn't an issue. He can shrink this small

Uh how small was that again? Drive knight's suit had some pretty big holes.

Also wouldn't it be fortunate for you? Instead of unfortunately
 
Uh how small was that again? Drive knight's suit had some pretty big holes.

Also wouldn't it be fortunate for you? Instead of unfortunately
Unfortunate for W.

Drive Knight doesn't wear a suit, he's more of a cyborg/robot. Nyan just slipped inside of the seams. He's within Drive Knight's motherboard system. He'd be able to do the same to W.
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Unfortunate for W.

Drive Knight doesn't wear a suit, he's more of a cyborg/robot. Nyan just slipped inside of the seams. He'd be able to do the same to W.
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There doesn't seem to be an opening there tho? Ig he could just manually make one via scratching W tho.
 
What does W start with
It depends on what W gets off from his IA, which allows them to learn everything about their opponent. In this case, they'll know of Nyan's abilities and his weakness. I can unironically see them actually capitalising on his weakness of being shown affection. Let me explain (if you need scans, hit me up; I don't have most of the scans with me, but I can make new ones when prompted):

Despite being a detective, Shotaro's common line of work is to find lost cats for their owners. The usual scenario would be him using his detective skills to find said cats. Even though he's a stranger to them, he usually returns the cats to their owners without being scratched and the cats themselves being docile. This might not be much yet.
As for Philip, he owns a cat, and their relationship is pretty swell. He should know how to show affection well to cats; Shotaro can also do this too thanks to the lost cat searchings, and also Mick (Philip's cat) joining their shared residence.

The moment they get the IA up and running, they'd immediately go for the 'smother with love' motive and chase him as he runs for his life (or something). Shotaro's cat finding skills come in handy, and they keep finding Nyan and restarting that cycle all over again. If a fight ensues, they also already got experience from defeating Mick, who I kid you not, was an executioner for his family by turning into his monster form. Nyan's fighting style (minus the powers) are similar to how the Smilodon Dopant (Mick) fights. His powers are also similar to Luna, one of W's memories that allows him to do almost everything Nyan can. So even without the IA, W's not really in a bad position.

Drive Knight doesn't wear a suit, he's more of a cyborg/robot. Nyan just slipped inside of the seams. He's within Drive Knight's motherboard system. He'd be able to do the same to W.
This is kinda complicated.
In a meta sense, they're wearing spandex suits and stuff, so you're not really wrong. In-universe, the suit is treated as an exoskeleton.

There are at his joints. His ankles, wrists, neck. All of those are small enough for Nyan to fit inside of.
They're not really holes per se; just small gaps from the armor that don't really lead to anywhere. Like when Nyan shrinks and goes into one of those gaps, he'd just be blocked off by the armor at best, or fails because some of those 'gaps' are just parts of the armor that protrude from the suit-like part of the armor.

Though, since W has the range advantage, it won't be easy for Nyan to do this, especially when W's like flying in the air. Even then, their instinctive reaction can hold him at bay,
 
This is kinda complicated.
In a meta sense, they're wearing spandex suits and stuff, so you're not really wrong. In-universe, the suit is treated as an exoskeleton.
They're not really holes per se; just small gaps from the armor that don't really lead to anywhere. Like when Nyan shrinks and goes into one of those gaps, he'd just be blocked off by the armor at best, or fails because some of those 'gaps' are just parts of the armor that protrude from the suit-like part of the armor.
Yeah that's the same for Drive Knight I'm ngl. Nyan is literaly able to shrink so small that he can fit inside of motherboards and in between the winds of tornados.
Though, since W has the range advantage, it won't be easy for Nyan to do this, especially when W's like flying in the air. Even then, their instinctive reaction can hold him at bay,
Well there's not much he can do once Nyan gets close. None of W's ranged attacks have a chance at hitting Nyan since he'd just slip by them.
 
I don't think W can land any of his ranged attacks on Nyan due to how small he can shrink. Danmaku doesn't really matter against someone like him. Meanwhile most of Nyan's attacks are blitz-style speed amps like Feline Retributions and stronger variations. Nyan is capable of one-shotting people who scale to his value while sleeping, and he can amp himself further with rage amps and his claws.

This means that the already large gap in stats would be even bigger at Nyan's peak. Nyan can shoot ten long ranged slashes at a time that would be very difficult to dodge since they would be coming from every angle. As W tries do dodge, Nyan would already by inside of him attacking the suit from the inside. It says in W's weaknesses that if the suit is damaged enough, he gets unfused, and that would mean an instant win for Nyan.

If their synchronization is somehow disrupted, Kamen Rider Double will be unable to move properly. If their Rider form takes any significant amounts of damage, both of them will feel the pain after returning to normal and Philip will often pass out due to his weaker constitution.
 
I'd say W's attacks could miss if it wasn't for W's main element being air manipulation. He at any point could just whip out a tornado that surrounds him. The winds do damage too so it's tough to go near him if you're going for an antman style win especially since he can use Maximum Drive with his tornadoes.

This means that the already large gap in stats would be even bigger at Nyan's peak. Nyan can shoot ten long ranged slashes at a time that would be very difficult to dodge since they would be coming from every angle. As W tries do dodge, Nyan would already by inside of him attacking the suit from the inside. It says in W's weaknesses that if the suit is damaged enough, he gets unfused, and that would mean an instant win for Nyan.

It's more of a case of being in sync rather than physical harm. In W, this weakness was supposed to be because of two minds going into one body which when tampered with could de-transform him. So, an example that happened in the show, if Joker get fear haxed then the Joker side wouldn't work. The Cyclone side was still able to work due to resistance to fear but he basically has to move with half a body.

In this instance, since he is in X-treme Form, the two of them fuse, basically not having that weakness anymore.
 
I'd say W's attacks could miss if it wasn't for W's main element being air manipulation. He at any point could just whip out a tornado that surrounds him. The winds do damage too so it's tough to go near him if you're going for an antman style win especially since he can use Maximum Drive with his tornadoes.
Nyan has been shown to be able to slip inside of bone-rendering tornados and remain uninjured. I'm unsure how effective this would be.
 
Nyan's fear of affection comes from being the cat of an overbearing lady who pampered him too much before he monsterized. It was enough to make him run away from PriPriPrisoner, who was a character he could low diff, only turning back to attack him after he kept going after him.
In a battle setting like here i'm not sure if it would be enough for self-bfr, considering it would only make him very uncomfortable. (And in story he could probably just avoid PPPrisoner and let another cadre fight him with no real damage to their plans.)
That being said he does have some crazy dodging feats, i'm guessing his usual stealth+sneak attack tactics would probably be shut down by W's IA.
 
That being said he does have some crazy dodging feats, i'm guessing his usual stealth+sneak attack tactics would probably be shut down by W's IA.
Shut down in what way? The moment any one of his attacks are even blocked, Nyan would have free reign to dura neg and destroy W from the inside-out. There's not much you can do to dodge someone shrinking inside of you.
 
Shut down in what way? The moment any one of his attacks are even blocked, Nyan would have free reign to dura neg and destroy W from the inside-out. There's not much you can do to dodge someone shrinking inside of you.
And how does Thrall dodge it lol
 
I'm kinda busy as of late, but I'll try my best to reply here.
(So like I still read the arguments but don't have the time to respond yet)
 
Electricity and Magma manipulation could counter him
TBF, Electricity is usually attached to attacks and Thrall's more of an Earthquake or fold the earth on someone guy, not a the floor is lava guy
 
I mean, worst case scenario, if Nyan can't do anything to damaged them inside-out, can he just sabotage the driver?
 
Nyan has been shown to be able to slip inside of bone-rendering tornados and remain uninjured. I'm unsure how effective this would be.
I'm pretty sure you would have to be small enough to slip through molecules in order to do that.
Shut down in what way? The moment any one of his attacks are even blocked, Nyan would have free reign to dura neg and destroy W from the inside-out. There's not much you can do to dodge someone shrinking inside of you.
I don't know if it will be shut down, but he will have counter strategies for it since he will be informed of Nyan's tactics, weaknesses and the extents of his abilities. That's how W was able to beat people who can instantly TP towards W. Also in this form, he can fuse his powers so like. He has Luna Memory for homing attacks that even if Nyan tries to dodge, the bullets will curve towards him and Heat Memory could set W's body on fire if Nyan does go for dura neg
 
I'm pretty sure you would have to be small enough to slip through molecules in order to do that.
He's done it so 🤷‍♂️
if Nyan tries to dodge, the bullets will curve towards him and Heat Memory could set W's body on fire if Nyan does go for dura neg
If they follow Nyan, they would just land on W instead. Is proof that Heat Memory produces fire completely from inside of W's body?
 
Ok, I'm back.
Just a reminder that W's IA will allow him to know everything about Nyan combatwise: how he fights, what his powerset is, what his weaknesses are, etc. Basically Nyan's fighting against someone that practically has prior knowledge of him. And his intelligence rating allows Kamen Rider W to exploit this.

Nyan's fear of affection comes from being the cat of an overbearing lady who pampered him too much before he monsterized. It was enough to make him run away from PriPriPrisoner, who was a character he could low diff, only turning back to attack him after he kept going after him.
In a battle setting like here i'm not sure if it would be enough for self-bfr, considering it would only make him very uncomfortable. (And in story he could probably just avoid PPPrisoner and let another cadre fight him with no real damage to their plans.)
This is essentially what I proposed in my very first reply:
Despite being a detective, Shotaro's common line of work is to find lost cats for their owners. The usual scenario would be him using his detective skills to find said cats. Even though he's a stranger to them, he usually returns the cats to their owners without being scratched and the cats themselves being docile. This might not be much yet.
As for Philip, he owns a cat, and their relationship is pretty swell. He should know how to show affection well to cats; Shotaro can also do this too thanks to the lost cat searchings, and also Mick (Philip's cat) joining their shared residence.

The moment they get the IA up and running, they'd immediately go for the 'smother with love' motive and chase him as he runs for his life (or something). Shotaro's cat finding skills come in handy, and they keep finding Nyan and restarting that cycle all over again.
While this won't exactly make him self-bfr, W should be able to use this to ward off any attacks on him when Nyan's about to hit them, most especially the ones that come from left field. This weakness should come in handy for W.

Yeah that's the same for Drive Knight I'm ngl. Nyan is literaly able to shrink so small that he can fit inside of motherboards and in between the winds of tornados.
I meant that the gaps don't go anywhere other than the gaps of his armor parts. Nyan still has to cut gashes into W to go inside his body. Basically, those aren't holes that Nyan can go into to use his wincon.

I don't think W can land any of his ranged attacks on Nyan due to how small he can shrink. Danmaku doesn't really matter against someone like him. Meanwhile most of Nyan's attacks are blitz-style speed amps like Feline Retributions and stronger variations. Nyan is capable of one-shotting people who scale to his value while sleeping, and he can amp himself further with rage amps and his claws. This means that the already large gap in stats would be even bigger at Nyan's peak.
How far can Nyan jump? Because W will be up flying in the air and essentially not allowing Nyan to get anywhere close to him. Trying to blitz W is also a no-go, thanks to his instinctive reaction, which can tag enemies that can teleport instantly. Gold Xtreme has his own AP scaling chain, being able to no-sell Eternal's Never Ending Hell attack without any injuries. This attack itself scales above the given 150 megatons. W's finisher in this form can go for over 750 megatons, and I won't be surprised if it barely reaches the limits of 7-A. The Metal Memory can enhance the user by 5x when used, allowing W to not only encase himself in metal, but also increase his AP and Dura. Nyan won't be able to drill holes into W or utilise his higher AP value this way.

Nyan can shoot ten long ranged slashes at a time that would be very difficult to dodge since they would be coming from every angle. As W tries do dodge, Nyan would already by inside of him attacking the suit from the inside. It says in W's weaknesses that if the suit is damaged enough, he gets unfused, and that would mean an instant win for Nyan.
One problem. His shockwaves are counted as air manipulation in his profile. W can already passively absorb air, and sending air shockwaves at him would just empower him without receiving any damage. There's not much of an exact multiplier, but keep in mind that absorbing some good amount of air was able to make W Xtreme turn into Gold Xtreme, so that does more harm to Nyan than it does to W tbh. Ixa explained the weakness part, so I'll just not speak about it.

Nyan has been shown to be able to slip inside of bone-rendering tornados and remain uninjured. I'm unsure how effective this would be.
How much can Nyan shrink actually? Also, wouldn't that just send him flying from W?

If they follow Nyan, they would just land on W instead. Is proof that Heat Memory produces fire completely from inside of W's body?
Not sure about homing close range, but if Nyan tries to shrink, and he's like not on W, the bullets would either hit him, or he'd keep dodging at the expense of his location being known by W. They're orbs of energy now when shot, so trying to block or deflect it might hurt him.
The Heat Memory can completely combust and envelop W in flames, so Nyan would get hit with the fire even if he's inside. The fire itself isn't putting a strain on W btw; it's the fact that he's pulling off two finishers simultaneously.
 
And remember kids, the reason W is allowed is because absorbing the elements from Thrall is a good way to get torn to shreds. This is why Kachon should have put in Akainu!
 
Yeah but he can't hit Thrall and Thrall can just make him stay in place until he's lost lol
Reaps, correct me if I'm wrong but, I don't think Kachon is coming back to respond to my arguments anymore. I've seen him argue against a few other threads. Nothing against him, but pointing it out.
 
Reaps, correct me if I'm wrong but, I don't think Kachon is coming back to respond to my arguments anymore. I've seen him argue against a few other threads. Nothing against him, but pointing it out.
Well, start gathering people who can vote then. OPM certainly has them, so does KR.
 
I meant that the gaps don't go anywhere other than the gaps of his armor parts. Nyan still has to cut gashes into W to go inside his body. Basically, those aren't holes that Nyan can go into to use his wincon.
I disagree with this. The way Nyan's ability works is pseudo-impossible. He's literally slipping into microscopic-sized holes and cracks. Drive Knight's body has no traditional holes for Nyan to enter into. You can see Drive Knight's body for reference. Nyan was slipping into the tiny gaps of Drive Knight on several occasions, not into actual cracks and holes. The same would happen here to W.
How far can Nyan jump? Because W will be up flying in the air and essentially not allowing Nyan to get anywhere close to him. Trying to blitz W is also a no-go, thanks to his instinctive reaction, which can tag enemies that can teleport instantly. Gold Xtreme has his own AP scaling chain, being able to no-sell Eternal's Never Ending Hell attack without any injuries. This attack itself scales above the given 150 megatons. W's finisher in this form can go for over 750 megatons, and I won't be surprised if it barely reaches the limits of 7-A. The Metal Memory can enhance the user by 5x when used, allowing W to not only encase himself in metal, but also increase his AP and Dura. Nyan won't be able to drill holes into W or utilise his higher AP value this way.
Incasing himself in metal wouldn't work as Nyan can slip through metal sheets and armors with ease. Having instinctive action good enough to fight teleportation users doesn't necessarily mean that you'd be able to handle people fast enough to blitz you. You'd have to first prove that W's reaction speed is relative to the constant blitzes of Nyan, especially when he's spamming his attacks and dura neg at the same time.

As or how high Nyan can jump, he can move at least several dozens if not hundreds of meters at a time and he can maneuver himself mid-air for a type of psuedo-flight or hypermobility.
One problem. His shockwaves are counted as air manipulation in his profile. W can already passively absorb air, and sending air shockwaves at him would just empower him without receiving any damage. There's not much of an exact multiplier, but keep in mind that absorbing some good amount of air was able to make W Xtreme turn into Gold Xtreme, so that does more harm to Nyan than it does to W tbh. Ixa explained the weakness part, so I'll just not speak about it.
Scans for W's air absorption? It seems like a stretch to say that Nyan's scratch shockwaves can just be absorbed when they're slashing attacks with higher AP than W himself.
Not sure about homing close range, but if Nyan tries to shrink, and he's like not on W, the bullets would either hit him, or he'd keep dodging at the expense of his location being known by W. They're orbs of energy now when shot, so trying to block or deflect it might hurt him.
Nyan actually would be on W. Regardless, he can easily slip into the ground to avoid getting hit.
The Heat Memory can completely combust and envelop W in flames, so Nyan would get hit with the fire even if he's inside. The fire itself isn't putting a strain on W btw; it's the fact that he's pulling off two finishers simultaneously.
The scan you sent doesn't really prove that there's fire both inside of him and outside, it just shows him engulfed in flames. How do you know that this fire would reach the depths of his body and char Nyan despite him being within his internals and whatnot?
 
I disagree with this. The way Nyan's ability works is pseudo-impossible. He's literally slipping into microscopic-sized holes and cracks. Drive Knight's body has no traditional holes for Nyan to enter into. You can see Drive Knight's body for reference. Nyan was slipping into the tiny gaps of Drive Knight on several occasions, not into actual cracks and holes. The same would happen here to W.
True, but I don't think W has these microscopic holes for him to go from one gap to another. If anything, he'd just be stuck at that one gap unless he goes out of that gap and transfer himself onto another externally, rather than by those holes. Actually, wait. Drive Knight's unarmored body fits the bill of all W forms, but the scans specifically has Nyan go through his armored parts rather than his body, no? In constrast, W Xtreme (Gold is basically a gold version of this but with additional wings, so I'm going to use this pic anyways) may have gaps that Nyan can hide himself in, but those gaps don't connect enough for him to go slip and sliding through one gap to another. Also those gap areas still count as outside his body, so I don't think he'd be slippin jimmy inside his body anytime soon.

Incasing himself in metal wouldn't work as Nyan can slip through metal sheets and armors with ease. Having instinctive action good enough to fight teleportation users doesn't necessarily mean that you'd be able to handle people fast enough to blitz you. You'd have to first prove that W's reaction speed is relative to the constant blitzes of Nyan, especially when he's spamming his attacks and dura neg at the same time.

As or how high Nyan can jump, he can move at least several dozens if not hundreds of meters at a time and he can maneuver himself mid-air for a type of psuedo-flight or hypermobility.
My mistake, I meant he'd become entirely metal, like Kevin Levin.
W's reaction speed should upscale Utopia Dopant, who could react to Accel Trial Form's speed blitz without breaking a sweat. Said Trial speed blitz was able to catch up with the Level 3 Nazca Dopant, who speed blitzed W Xtreme before. And even then, that's when W was in Xtreme Form, Gold Xtreme would upscale Xtreme (obviously). So yes, that paired with his IR can react to Nyan.

Scans for W's air absorption? It seems like a stretch to say that Nyan's scratch shockwaves can just be absorbed when they're slashing attacks with higher AP than W himself.
The Cyclone Memory allows Double to absorb the wind and use its energy to increase his strength and mobility. This can be seen in his first finisher. And this attack. Since W Xtreme incorporates the Cyclone Memory as well (he doesn't have those windy holes intake anymore), he's still able to take in wind to do attacks. Also, Xtreme absorbing wind to become GoldXtreme. This is all passive, btw.

Nyan actually would be on W. Regardless, he can easily slip into the ground to avoid getting hit.
He still has to cross the SBA distance to get onto W. Also W can fly high into the sky, so he has to act fast.

The scan you sent doesn't really prove that there's fire both inside of him and outside, it just shows him engulfed in flames. How do you know that this fire would reach the depths of his body and char Nyan despite him being within his internals and whatnot?
Technically, it'd be burning all the gaps Nyan can be in, and the heat from those flames would also be hurting him.
 
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