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Immesurable Speed and possible Low 1-C for Zhuo Fan

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Soooooooo i find evidence for immesurable speed for zhuo fan and possible tier Low 1-C

I didn't expect to create this thread so Let's Start


“The ultimate sword technique is at the very limit of this world… a pity it’s a hint away from overcoming its barrier. That barrier is the limit of this world’s pinnacle… and the infinite one where Zhuo Fan resides.”
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Chapter 889 – Heavenly Sword God:

The “barrier” defines the absolute metaphysical limit of this world’s structure. Zhuo Fan is said to reside in an infinite realm beyond this barrier, implying he exists outside the dimensional framework that governs space, time, laws, and cosmology.


“He’s long since left the confines of space and time… If he wanted to destroy this world, he would only need to will it.”
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Chapter 762 – Supreme Sword Elder:
Confirms Zhuo Fan has completely transcended space-time, meaning he no longer exists within spacetime as a framework. The claim that “he could destroy the world by thought” shows total dominion over existence, supporting reality warping, law manipulation, or existence erasure.

“He can alter common sense, traverse through space-time at will, a single trip spanning 10,000 years.”
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Chapter 749 – Sword Ancestor:
Zhuo Fan Transcending time and space, with no resistance, and traveling ten thousand years in a single jump




Conclusion
Zhuo Fan should be rated to Low 1-C and have immeasurable speed based on explicit statements that He resides beyond the metaphysical barrier of this world. He has transcended space-time entirely. Zhuo Fan is not affected by space-time. He doesn’t interact with the world on its own dimensional level. He exists in “the infinite one”, vastly above all lower realms, timelines, and life cycles.


Remember the scan i use is not from Magic Emperor the scan i use is from Sword God of the Heavenly Dao that connected to Magic Emperor

Agree: @DarkDragonMedeus @LuffyRuffy46307 @Frey_Starlight
Neutral:
Disagree: @SweetDao @Frey_Starlight (Immeasurable speed) @CALL_DADDY @ZERGESS @DarkDragonMedeus (Immeasurable speed)
 
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I've skimmed a bit and will come back later, but I feel like immeasurable is a bit too vague. Unless stated that it's done thanks to his speed, I would rather put it as a time travel hax.
 
SweetDao said:
I've skimmed a bit and will come back later, but I feel like immeasurable is a bit too vague. Unless stated that it's done thanks to his speed, I would rather put it as a time travel hax.
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Zhuo Fan is not merely using time travel hax. He exists outside space-time, can moves freely across time through will Traverses 10,000 years in a thought, is unaffected by causality or temporal barriers
 
Youngwolf-0.1 said:
Zhuo Fan is not merely using time travel hax. He exists outside space-time, can moves freely across time through will Traverses 10,000 years in a thought, is unaffected by causality or temporal barriers
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There is no mention that he does so via speed. None of the evidence provided really make it leans to "it's speed".
 
Youngwolf-0.1 said:
Yea you're right that there's no mention done by speed but he already transcendence of space-time and can appear any point
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Again, that could just be very good teleportation, unless you can find some evidence or information it's done "because he's just that fast", it makes more sense to assume it's a hax provided by his level of cultivation.
 
SweetDao said:
Again, that could just be very good teleportation, unless you can find some evidence or information it's done "because he's just that fast", it makes more sense to assume it's a hax provided by his level of cultivation.
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What do you think about tier?
 
i agree with low 1-C but that speed about traversing space-time at will seems like dimensional travel. you need different scans to prove that his speed is immeasurable
 
Frey_Starlight said:
i agree with low 1-C but that speed about traversing space-time at will seems like dimensional travel. you need different scans to prove that his speed is immeasurable
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SweetDao said:
Again, that could just be very good teleportation, unless you can find some evidence or information it's done "because he's just that fast", it makes more sense to assume it's a hax provided by his level of cultivation.
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tomorrow i reply with counter argument for immeasurable im going to sleep right now
 
After checking back, I don't think Low 1-C is fine.

The two supporting statements seems more about "he's outside this space-time". Since he resides in the multiverse (where he can destroy/interact with the worlds) it makes sense. Seems to me, it correlates with the fact he can come and go in any point from time and space and isn't bound to the "linear" progression anymore.
 
SweetDao said:
After checking back, I don't think Low 1-C is fine.

The two supporting statements seems more about "he's outside this space-time". Since he resides in the multiverse (where he can destroy/interact with the worlds) it makes sense. Seems to me, it correlates with the fact he can come and go in any point from time and space and isn't bound to the "linear" progression anymore.
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“The ultimate sword technique is at the very limit of this world… a pity it’s a hint away from overcoming its barrier. That barrier is the limit of this world’s pinnacle… and the infinite one where Zhuo Fan resides.”
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This does not merely state that Zhuo Fan is outside one space-time, but that he resides beyond a cosmological barrier. That barrier separates the “pinnacle of this world” (i.e., its highest dimensional space-time structure) from the “infinite one” he now occupies.
 
This sounds like something requiring more input from Translation Helpers. But as for the translated text, I do not think that meets criteria for Immeasurable speed.
“The ultimate sword technique is at the very limit of this world… a pity it’s a hint away from overcoming its barrier. That barrier is the limit of this world’s pinnacle… and the infinite one where Zhuo Fan resides.”
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I could however see Infinite speed though.

And so far, nothing against Low 1-C. But once again, translation helpers' input is considered mandatory for threads like these now.
 
Thank you very much for your helpful consideration. 🙏❤️
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
But as for the translated text, I do not think that meets criteria for Immeasurable speed.
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If he has influence over time as the thread is implying, then its not enough for immeasurable since it could just be standard time manipulation or time travel.

For Low 1-C the main issue here is that there's no instance that the world they reside in is 4th Dimensional on its own. Everything stayed by the OP can be accomplished by just being Tier 2. I'm not sure about either upgrade currently.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
If he has influence over time as the thread is implying, then its not enough for immeasurable since it could just be standard time manipulation or time travel.

For Low 1-C the main issue here is that there's no instance that the world they reside in is 4th Dimensional on its own. Everything stayed by the OP can be accomplished by just being Tier 2. I'm not sure about either upgrade currently.
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I believe I actually evaluated a similar CRT for the same character and came to the same conclusion.

Regardless, I also don't see definite evidence of Tier 1 as opposed to Tier 2.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
If he has influence over time as the thread is implying, then its not enough for immeasurable since it could just be standard time manipulation or time travel.

For Low 1-C the main issue here is that there's no instance that the world they reside in is 4th Dimensional on its own. Everything stayed by the OP can be accomplished by just being Tier 2. I'm not sure about either upgrade currently.
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FinePoint said:
I believe I actually evaluated a similar CRT for the same character and came to the same conclusion.

Regardless, I also don't see definite evidence of Tier 1 as opposed to Tier 2.
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What about tier 2-A?
 
FinePoint said:
Tier 2 is probably fine.

Whether A, B, or C depends on the exact number of universes, which I'm unsure of.
Could you clarify?
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"You and I can’t overcome the barrier because neither of us is complete... However, together, we can overcome it... not just this speck of Heavenly Continent. The world beyond is huge. The two of us together can unite all domains, beyond anything you can imagine."
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The Heavenly Continent is referred to as a “speck” within a much larger collection of worlds/domains. Zhuo Fan is stated to reside beyond the barrier of this structure. Heavenly Sword God believes uniting the multiverse requires “overcoming” this metaphysical barrier, which Zhuo Fan already has.

“The ultimate sword technique is at the very limit of this world… a pity it’s a hint away from overcoming its barrier. That barrier is the limit of this world’s pinnacle… and the infinite one where Zhuo Fan resides.”
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and zhuo fan reside the infinite one
 
Youngwolf-0.1 said:
The Heavenly Continent is referred to as a “speck” within a much larger collection of worlds/domains. Zhuo Fan is stated to reside beyond the barrier of this structure. Heavenly Sword God believes uniting the multiverse requires “overcoming” this metaphysical barrier, which Zhuo Fan already has.

and zhuo fan reside the infinite one
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Well that sounds like at least 2-C, but what's the evidence there are infinite universes and he can affect all of them at once?
 
Youngwolf-0.1 said:
I think im going toake a thread for that so ican explain it
im going to propose 2-B with this scan
Zhuo fan is so rounded by infinite sphere which is universe and he can destroy it like a bubbles
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Ah, so this is the same character I evaluated before, I remember this bubble thing.

I previously approved HDE (4D) for it, which would logically place him in at least Low 2-C, definitely at least 2-C in this context.

As for 2-B, that would imply he can destroy more than a thousand of them at once.

Given he sees them as bubbles, I suppose we need to ask how many bubbles someone could pop at once... I'm guessing a lot, but probably less than a thousand.
 
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Maybe this will help.
 
FinePoint said:
Ah, so this is the same character I evaluated before, I remember this bubble thing.

I previously approved HDE (4D) for it, which would logically place him in at least Low 2-C, definitely at least 2-C in this context.

As for 2-B, that would imply he can destroy more than a thousand of them at once.

Given he sees them as bubbles, I suppose we need to ask how many bubbles someone could pop at once... I'm guessing a lot, but probably less than a thousand.
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He was surrounded by many spheres, flickering and roaming through the darkness. Some were pure white, others were gray, and the last were black.

Zhuo Fan watched it all and pointed.

Pff~

Dozens of black spheres vanished.

“Sorry, it’s not that I destroyed you, but that your world is already at its end, turned into hell. I’m only doing heaven’s duty in removing it.”
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Zhuo Fan can destroy the dozens of sphere by pointed at it
 
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