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Fight takes place at the Island of Cozia
Speed is equalized
Start 20 meters apart
Thragg: 567 Exatons
Marco: 376.724 Exatons
Thragg has a 1.5x AP and Durability advantage
Thragg:
Marco:
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Lord Thragg vs Marco the Phoenix
- Thread starter Kachon123
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Fight takes place at the Island of Cozia
Speed is equalized
Start 20 meters apart
Thragg: 567 Exatons
Marco: 376.724 Exatons
Thragg has a 1.5x AP and Durability advantage
Thragg:
Marco:
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Pretty sure Marco's flames have a massive scaling chain behind it. Hotter than flame fruit and maybe magma fruit but that's a stretch.
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Marco's flames don't burn. Plus Thragg's heat resistance scales higher than One Piece's iirc.
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What stops Thragg from throwing Marco to space or getting rip apart?
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Nothing I'm assuming.
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Mind you it’s a 1.5 advantage but Thragg scaling chain is kinda cracked. He's ripping apart/one-shotting people who scale higher than Marco.
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Can't Marco just become intangible at will?
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Even if Thragg doesn't throw Marco into space (as Marco can fly), Thragg just outlasts and beats Marco into submission
Continued use of his flames wears out Marco decently quickly, as fighting both King and Queen wore him out after some time, while Thragg can survive being basically mutilated and fought Battle Beast for many days straight
Yes, Marco can survive lethal injuries as well due to his surviving Kizaru's laser feat, but Thragg's are on a whole other level
Kenbunshoku Haki is also countered by Thragg's massive advantage in raw skill and better manuverability, although it'll still be extremely difficult for Thragg to overcome it as he's still mostly relying on stamina in this fight
voting Thragg high diff
Continued use of his flames wears out Marco decently quickly, as fighting both King and Queen wore him out after some time, while Thragg can survive being basically mutilated and fought Battle Beast for many days straight
Yes, Marco can survive lethal injuries as well due to his surviving Kizaru's laser feat, but Thragg's are on a whole other level
Kenbunshoku Haki is also countered by Thragg's massive advantage in raw skill and better manuverability, although it'll still be extremely difficult for Thragg to overcome it as he's still mostly relying on stamina in this fight
voting Thragg high diff
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He doesn't have that ability. His Devil Fruit isn't a Logia.
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He can make his fire body intangible, like how Kizaru's light bullets passed through it at Marineford.
Also should mention he can use Kenbun Haki to see attacks coming to some extent, and can amp his physicals with buso haki.
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Yeah Thragg FRA.
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Is Thragg first moves throwing people to space?
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I'm sorry but how does Thragg put down Marco?
Like I think he honestly puts up a better fight against stronger characters than Marco.
Marco and Thragg both have fought for days against people so the outlasting argument means little.
He has no way of leaving wounds that stay since Marco can heal, while every wound Marco leaves stays.
Thragg will be getting progressively weaker as long as he can't harm Marco.
Like lowest I see is a statemate but I don't understand how Thragg puts down Marco
Like I think he honestly puts up a better fight against stronger characters than Marco.
Marco and Thragg both have fought for days against people so the outlasting argument means little.
He has no way of leaving wounds that stay since Marco can heal, while every wound Marco leaves stays.
Thragg will be getting progressively weaker as long as he can't harm Marco.
Like lowest I see is a statemate but I don't understand how Thragg puts down Marco
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I'm pretty sure he was just tanking and regenerating them which gives the illusion of intangibility. His body isn't made out of fire but merely producing it.
Even if not his first move, he'll do it the moment he sees Marco not dying to his attacks.
Can Marco breathe in space?
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Oh so lifting strength actually matters in this fight, damn
You're completely right
...didn't do this to Battle Beast
Nope
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Marco doesn't need to breath in space because he has type 2 and 3 immortality.
Just because Thragg has higher LS, that doesn't mean that Marco would get instantly taken to space in the first place. The speed at which he gets launched should be taken to account, and I don't think Marco will be flying at speeds quick enough to where he won't be able to stop himself with his wings and hypermobility.
Like KingTempest said, Thragg has no way to put Marco down. If he gets thrown to space he'd just regenerate and fly back. They both can fight for days, but only one of them can heal extensively.
Just because Thragg has higher LS, that doesn't mean that Marco would get instantly taken to space in the first place. The speed at which he gets launched should be taken to account, and I don't think Marco will be flying at speeds quick enough to where he won't be able to stop himself with his wings and hypermobility.
Like KingTempest said, Thragg has no way to put Marco down. If he gets thrown to space he'd just regenerate and fly back. They both can fight for days, but only one of them can heal extensively.
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Atp keep me at neutral
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Thragg has over five thousand times higher lifting strength if I'm reading their profiles correctly, Marco would be absolutely ragdolled and unable to even move an inch under such force, and even if he could survive the initial decompression to fly back, he uses wings to fly, which would not work in space, in fact he'd struggle to fly even in the mesosphere, long before leaving the atmosphere.
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I'd also like to mention that Marco has far superior Haki than an Ace that surpasses Jinbe. Jinbe's Haki is the same one that is capable to boosting his defenses so high to the point to where people relative to him break their bones when striking. This means that the already small AP gap is as good as not there if Marco so pleases.
Marco is capable to taking straight danmaku to the face and instantly heal to the point to where it looked like he has intangibility. Any lethal attack would get negated
Marco is capable to taking straight danmaku to the face and instantly heal to the point to where it looked like he has intangibility. Any lethal attack would get negated
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This is where I disagree. Just because he has higher lifting strength does not mean that Marco would continue to get ragdolled, unless Thragg is grabbing and dragging him. Marco has Kenbunshoku Haki, great reactions, and immortality type 2, so he would be attempting a counter immediately, unphased by the damage
Characters in One Piece also has insane adaptation levels. Marco himself, and characters like pretimeskip Zoro and Sanji were able to adapt to short oxygen levels high in the atmosphere. Marco's hypermobility is based on his flame manipulation, not just wings. He is using his own AP and flames as a propellant.
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It does mean that, Marco would be launched with such force that there's no chance at all that he could counteract said force, stop the momentum and use his wings to fly back with his own vastly, vastly inferior lifting strength.
Luffy, Zoro and Sanji did that on Skypiea, which is only like ten kilometers at best above sea level, we're talking about him being sent high into the atmosphere and beyond. Where in the manga or on his profile does it say he uses fire to propel himself through the air? He flies like a bird using wings, that's it.
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Not from a throw nor by a punch. Deaccerlation is massive over large distances.
You'd have to prove that there's something stopping Marco from reacting and stopping himself before getting that high. This battle takes place in Cozia Island, which is in the One Piece planet which has an atmosphere as high as the moon to where people can take balloons up and down.
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And again I wanna point out Thragg “small AP” Gets way bigger once you realize he’s one shotting and ripping apart who scale above the planet feat.
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Marco fra
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Thragg will send Marco to Kars.Thragg FRA
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Out of mutual respect because BB gutted himself to make their fight fair. The scan for Thrag's BFR is him doing it to BB in a different situation.
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no he just regenerates from it
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grab him -> fly into space -> marco comes back -> grab him again -> fly into DEEP space -> Marco can't come back = gg
also what are you smoking, type 2 and 3 doesn't stop you from dying from lack of oxygen
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Marco's haki is so bad he's never shown black Armament on screen a single time ever
Ace scaling to a weaker Jinbe really shouldn't count for this, especially since Jinbe's Haki isn't anything special either
not to mention Thragg can splatter people stronger than Marco with a casual backhand so no the "small" AP gap isn't small
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The guy can fight talk and walk normally with massive holes in his body and a sword stuck in his head. Reseiliance immortality paired with High regeneration will allow you to survive, especially when he's still in an area with enough atmosphere to support balloons
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how does precog help him when:
1. Marco basically has zero range attacks besides fire and he's never spammed range in character
2. Thragg has equal stamina, way better skill, way better flight, and is chasing him like an army dog throughout the entire fight
3. Thragg just goes down and blows up the core of the planet or smthn by just flying through it like wtf is marco supposed to do
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u ever heard of space buddy? There's stuff PAST the atmosphere! and Thragg can fly past it!
Thragg flies into sun carrying Marco in tow and just leaves him there, Marco can't come back before he suffocates or internally explodes gg
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That's just not how Haki works
thanks for proving your ignorance.Except it is and I literally quoted it's feats, which you ignored.
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