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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread

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At the very least. Bob is a reserve member. Even Tony didn't go on all missions.
He’s not that either he’s like the equivalent to a janitor/house keeping guy hence he said all he can do is wash dishes the only reason he is there is because he can turn void again if he’s by himself if that wasn’t a possibility they were literally just going to leave him in the street as he’s not apart of the crew
 
He’s not that either he’s like the equivalent to a janitor/house keeping guy hence he said all he can do is wash dishes the only reason he is there is because he can turn void again if he’s by himself if that wasn’t a possibility they were literally just going to leave him in the street as he’s not apart of the crew
They weren't anything until they were creistened The New Avengers. Bob is there because he's their biggest gun AS WELL as a danger to the world. When Bob gets better control of the Sentry, he can be a field member.

Bob should be listed as part of the team (trainee, reserve, benched, whatever).
 
They weren't anything until they were creistened The New Avengers. Bob is there because he's their biggest gun AS WELL as a danger to the world. When Bob gets better control of the Sentry, he can be a field member.

Bob should be listed as part of the team (trainee, reserve, benched, whatever).
Bob is there because they literally said they can’t leave him alone in case he becomes the void again he’s not apart of the team he’s literally just the house keeper that’s it until he gets better control then he’ll maybe join the team but until then he’s not in it and is explicitly separated it as the ending states the new avengers & BoB
 
Bob is there because they literally said they can’t leave him alone in case he becomes the void again he’s not apart of the team he’s literally just the house keeper that’s it until he gets better control then he’ll maybe join the team but until then he’s not in it and is explicitly separated it as the ending states the new avengers & BoB
The others consider him part of team. Victoria introduced the team with him included. Walker and Alexei consider one of his uses (flight). Bob has determined he can't use his power without the Void, which is a new development not scene before the Void came out in New York, implying they've tried getting him to use his powers at some point within the 14 months of the New Avengers being a thing. Sentry being inoperable is very much what a sabbatical means, as Bob can enter the field once he has control. Valentina isn't going to market Sentry with the others until he's operable.
 
Love how no one wants to make a page for Byrdie 😭 Worst corporate plug ever
Doesn't help she's the product of cosmic beastality (Misspelled on purpose to avoid censorship) I know Marvel isn't afraid get weird and gross (Ultimate universe anyone?) but even among the casual audience who actually asked for this?

Seriously if they'll going to make an OC at least don't literally screw over the backstory; "Darcy gets pecked by Howard the Duck during planetary alignment, lays a cosmic egg which in turn hatches into a human/duck hybrid demi-goddess aka Byrdie who joins the Guardians of the Multiverse, she eventually becomes a 5th dimensional being that interferes with the multiverse according to her and friends morals of good vs evil thus making the freewill GoS Loki gave to everyone pointless"

Tl;dr, Someone literally forced their own furry fanfic to be canon in the MCU.
 
interferes with the multiverse according to her and friends morals of good vs evil thus making the freewill GoS Loki gave to everyone pointless"
Agreed with everything else, but to be fair it was either Loki holding the Multiverse (and thus giving everyone free will), or He Who Remains would still be in charge (and the TVA would still be pruning timelines).

And it seems The Watchers, while powerful, haven't shown the ability to restore timelines erased from history itself (Tom Hiddleston stated that Alioth eats timelines from history), and well... it took a fusion of Three Watchers to even perform a history-level hax (Existence Erasure) against three different individuals, and not an actual universe/timeline.

So, GoS Loki's legacy isn't at all pointless.
 
I have wonderd about the difference between Eternity and what if Strange as they both are said to be the embodiment of the universe.
 
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i have wonderd is there tier between eternity and what if strange as they both are said to be the embodiment of the universe
Strange has 5/6D power null/reality warping, and space-time manipulation over Eternity since he cancelled out the Eminence's powers.

Eternity has better OP hax like unlimited matter/space-time control (quantum level), HDE, abstract existence, EE, and resistance to space-time manip (4D for now, but likely higher.)
 
Guys, I was looking at the profiles, but does it really make sense that Carol is millions of times stronger than Thor at full power?
He did perform better than her, and she was still very trying to fight Thanos, so I don't get why against Thanos she would be millions time weaker just because in later movie she was more confident (not sure she was even more confident than against Thanos)
 
Guys, I was looking at the profiles, but does it really make sense that Carol is millions of times stronger than Thor at full power?
He did perform better than her, and she was still very trying to fight Thanos, so I don't get why against Thanos she would be millions time weaker just because in later movie she was more confident (not sure she was even more confident than against Thanos)
Yeah, I checked too, and it's a 286,567,331.651x difference. That's actually just ridiculous, and not in a good way. I get there was a CRT that used the evidence from the Russos that Captain Marvel> Thor/Thanos, but you can't make me believe she wasn't using her full power. The fact that Thanos didn't get immediately vaporized despite not using the stones should make them all scale to a far closer degree.

200 million times is straight up crazy, I agree. High levels of headcanon are needed to assume that Captain Marvel was holding back 200 million times her full power when the literal universe was at stake.
 
Come Doomsday, many characters will be homogenized on a power scale. Sentry, Captain Marvel, Thor, Hulk, and Vision are likely the top tiers. Then it's probably Namor, Thing, Wonder Man, Spider-Man if he was strong, and Thena. War Machine and Groot are probably the high mid tiers, with Spider-Man below them (but fast as ****). No idea where the X-Men will be placed.
 
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When Captain Marvel performed her Low 4-C feat, the glow indicating her power level seemed much more intense than anything shown before, and I think there is at least one statement from a VFX article implying that it was a new height of her power:

At the end of the film, the process is reversed. Captain Marvel uses her expanded powers to restart the sun. Paetsch explained that it was important that this spectacular transformation also appear convincing.

I do think there's a decent argument that could be made for Captain Marvel at least scaling above the Tesseract by the end of her first movie though (and potentially upscaling further by the time of Endgame)
 
In the fight against Thanos, the entire universe was at stake, so Carol should at least backscale to her full confidence level at that time. There’s no way she became millions of times stronger without a proper explanation. Narratively, that makes no sense. And if you probably asked the writers themselves, they’d still say Thanos is stronger.

I think many characters are heavily lowballed. Thor fought Thanos wielding multiple Infinity Stones, and yet he's still rated at Moon level? The scaling doesn’t add up. I see a lot of cope out used to avoid scaling Captain Marvel to characters she logically matches or should scale to.

I don’t think there’s a single person here who genuinely believes that full-power Thor is millions times weaker than Carol.

Also, Sentry’s power is stated to equal the force of 1,000 suns, according to scientific lab data, which makes it reliable. Since that file was written by scientists, it serves as supporting evidence that Carol’s feat isn’t particularly special. If Sentry fully mastered his power, he would eclipse her easily.
 
There were rumors a while ago that Peter would ask Hulk and Ant-Man for advice about how to go about his life as hero, to which they give different opinions since they lived much different lives (Ant-Man being more about fame and Hulk being more about being reclusive). Peter's probably still trying to distance himself from people, so he's deciding whether he wants to be a man of the people or just a guy who swoops in to save the day.
 
There were rumors a while ago that Peter would ask Hulk and Ant-Man for advice about how to go about his life as hero, to which they give different opinions since they lived much different lives (Ant-Man being more about fame and Hulk being more about being reclusive). Peter's probably still trying to distance himself from people, so he's deciding whether he wants to be a man of the people or just a guy who swoops in to save the day.

Peter: What do I do now?

Ant-Man: Who tf are you

Hulk: I'm Mark Ruffalo
 
Apparently Hulk in Spider-Man: Brand New Day was mentioned days ago in DMs by the source who reported on the villains shown at the Disney Blockbuster Consumer Products presentation:
 
I suspect that at least one of these moments from the comics will be referenced in Brand New Day:

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In the fight against Thanos, the entire universe was at stake, so Carol should at least backscale to her full confidence level at that time. There’s no way she became millions of times stronger without a proper explanation. Narratively, that makes no sense. And if you probably asked the writers themselves, they’d still say Thanos is stronger.

I think many characters are heavily lowballed. Thor fought Thanos wielding multiple Infinity Stones, and yet he's still rated at Moon level? The scaling doesn’t add up. I see a lot of cope out used to avoid scaling Captain Marvel to characters she logically matches or should scale to.

I don’t think there’s a single person here who genuinely believes that full-power Thor is millions times weaker than Carol.

Also, Sentry’s power is stated to equal the force of 1,000 suns, according to scientific lab data, which makes it reliable. Since that file was written by scientists, it serves as supporting evidence that Carol’s feat isn’t particularly special. If Sentry fully mastered his power, he would eclipse her easily.
I agree, the script she was at flying at top speed, i don't think its unreasonable her other powers were at their peak
 
bro brave new world has been out has been out for months and i can’t find any new statements for red hulk green hulk comparison there has to be something
 
bro brave new world has been out has been out for months and i can’t find any new statements for red hulk green hulk comparison there has to be something

If the Disney+ release of the movie tomorrow doesn't have any useful bonus content, the next major chance to get new information would probably be when the artbook releases in July
 
will we get a director commentary? Cause if not then blind audio for vibranium ripping my be enough
I think the digital and Blu-ray releases of the movie which are already out include a director commentary, though I don't own either and I haven't seen anyone bring up details from it. I don't think it's been definitively confirmed that the Disney+ release will include the commentary, though I would certainly hope it does.
 
Also red hulk’s profile is crazy and need to be revamped for some reason he only scales to avengers hulk with no evidence and not peak green hulk and he doesn’t scale to vibranium despite the fact he dented/crushed it with a single hand and inb4 his grip strength is thousands of times above his punches

Also his gifs should be updated with hd clips instead of cam rips
 
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Also red hulk’s profile is crazy and need to be revamped for some reason he only scales to avengers hulk with no evidence and not peak green hulk and he doesn’t scale to vibranium despite the fact he dented/crushed it with a single hand and inb4 his grip strength is thousands of times above his punches

Also his gifs should be updated with hd clips instead of cam rips
The cam rips add personality
 
It doesn't seem like the Disney+ release of Brave New World has the director commentary, so I guess only someone with the Blu-Ray/digital would be able to give information on that.
 
Lol, scrolling through I didn't expect to see that thor isn't even a millionth of Carol in power. Must've been an off day for her in Endgame.
 
Not gonna lie, if we need to buy the Blu-Ray/DVD to get an answer, I won't be the one providing it, cause I don't care enough about that movie to buy it
 
Not gonna lie, if we need to buy the Blu-Ray/DVD to get an answer, I won't be the one providing it, cause I don't care enough about that movie to buy it
I got the digital version he doesn’t mention anything I mean he doesn’t really need the comparison as he’s on screen dented and ripped vibranium green hulk would would be lucky to scale to red
 
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