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Wiki Vandalism Reports

This isn’t the only fcoc issue handled here, though it is rare that our issues be addressed in this thread.

As said by Lephyr, that profile was rule breaking (unapproved tier 1 aspects). You were also inactive for nearly 5 years, technically we are supposed to delete inactive profiles after way less. The fact you reported the deletion of a page here, especially when it’s extremely clear why it was deleted in the first place, is pretty telling.

they tried posting here for some reason to get it restored.
 

they tried posting here for some reason to get it restored.
Ridiculous.
 

No CRT
Twilight gave them a warning message. 🙏
 
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they tried posting here for some reason to get it restored.
I think you may have misunderstood their comment. I believe they want a sandbox of the profile so they can fix it and then submit it again.

@VeneficaAuthor would you be willing to provide them a sandbox of it?
 
I think you may have misunderstood their comment. I believe they want a sandbox of the profile so they can fix it and then submit it again.

@VeneficaAuthor would you be willing to provide them a sandbox of it?
I told them on their message wall to use their sandbox for the page, either they are unaware of sandboxes in general (unlikely, this user was on the site years before i was), or they are outright ignoring me, which is the option I’m going with. They went straight into the tier 1 review thread with their message instead of responding me here or on the message wall.

I can definitely provide the sandbox, but honestly I don’t believe the page should be allowed on fcoc regardless. Once more on the message wall, they just said that they could remove the tier 1 aspects since that’s what’s causing the problem. That’s what we call ‘purge dodging’ on fcoc, which in and of itself is breaking another rule.
 
I told them on their message wall to use their sandbox for the page, either they are unaware of sandboxes in general (unlikely, this user was on the site years before i was), or they are outright ignoring me, which is the option I’m going with. They went straight into the tier 1 review thread with their message instead of responding me here or on the message wall.

I can definitely provide the sandbox, but honestly I don’t believe the page should be allowed on fcoc regardless. Once more on the message wall, they just said that they could remove the tier 1 aspects since that’s what’s causing the problem. That’s what we call ‘purge dodging’ on fcoc, which in and of itself is breaking another rule.
I see. Thank you for the info.

That being said, it seems to me the user is genuinely clueless on the most recent rules. I wouldn't immediately go with the option of ignoring you/having malice, as they seem as a user that spent some time away and barely recently is coming back to the wiki(s). Give 'em the sandbox anyways, even if simply so they can keep a copy of it.
 
I see. Thank you for the info.

That being said, it seems to me the user is genuinely clueless on the most recent rules. I wouldn't immediately go with the option of ignoring you/having malice, as they seem as a user that spent some time away and barely recently is coming back to the wiki(s). Give 'em the sandbox anyways, even if simply so they can keep a copy of it.
That's agreeable, I'll make it. Still strange that they haven't yet addressed me though.
 
This profile keeps getting vandalized.

 
I locked the page and gave a warning message:


Thank you for helping out. 🙏
 
Lucius Zogratis had his profile vandalized. If someone who is more acclimated to undoing changes of this many additional revisions, could remove the rest, it would be appreciated. I'm busy as of the moment, so I don't have enough time to go through all the revisions and remove them, individually.

I believe this is a situation of an inexperience member not knowing how we actually add or remove stuff on profiles, as the user who added these changes, also made a thread to get those additions accepted.
 
I have reverted the changes and locked that page, and have also given a warning instruction message. 🙏

 
Greetings Seniors, I'm the one who made the Lucius Zogratis edits. Everything I said was honest and in good faith. Can I make another thread with my full thoughts and tag a couple people here for review? I've been working on this scale technically for years and I have all of Lucius's myriad of abilities memorized off the top of my head and I am extremely well versed with the series @Antvasima , @Deceived3596. Could I even post my research here if it's fine with yall?
If you wish to close your current thread to create a new one: you should contact a Thread Moderator - a user who has a Red Tag - and ask them to close your thread. After that is done, you can create a new thread with additional arguments.

As for providing those arguments here, or just general thoughts about the CRT; it's not the correct place to do so. This thread is specifically for addressing vandalism that has occurred on the wiki. It's not the place to propose arguments for revisions - that's what Content Revision Threads are for.
 
Thank you for helping out. 🙏
 
I have received a complaint about @Dragopentling regarding their Blue Archive verse edits.


After I asked our staff members about it in private, I was told that:

"He has been changing abilities to profiles, mostly NPI (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) (15). I don't see a CRT link. In fact, there was a downgrade for NPI, and there's also a basically blank blog for NPI stuff I believe he's trying to use for his ability changes. And he was changing stats. (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9). I don't see a CRT link again.

I also would like to mention that he tried using this scan for NPI Justification when editing."

Dragopentling, what do you have to say for yourself? 🙏
 
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You kinda... summed up everything, Ant, lel.

Well, a more recent non-CRT edit can be shown here in where Dragonpentling reapplied NPI after I removed a few hours after I got rid of it. So there's that as infraction, if it counts.

There's also Dragon's thing with changing stats and justifications of which... I am at a lost of what to do other than having to do a massive CRT to rewrite everything and get everything into order, but that's something I really, really want to avoid if I can as Dragon did do valid, helpful things like spelling fix and whatnot (which is very helpful since english is still my 2nd lanaguge).

Not sure what else to add here.
 
Thank you very much for helping out. 🙏

@Dragopentling

We still need you to comment here. 🙏
 
They havent been active on the forum since Friday. Sent them a message redirecting them here from the wiki, and instructing him not to delete messages.
 
Thank you very much for helping out. 🙏

@Dragopentling

We still need you to comment here. 🙏
Yo. Uh, am I not needed here anymore? I would like to resume my my ban-break from the forums themselves and to be "banned" until June 10, if there isn't any issues. Mainly cuz I am going to cut myself off most social media stuff and YouTube for a good chunk of time due to me wanting to play Deltarune C3/4 spoiler-free and form my own thoughts and opinion on it, tbh.
 
@FantaRin_The_First @Antvasima @Catzlaflame
Just got the message. I figured something like this will happen. Right now I'm not in the best of moods right now and safe to say it hasn't really improved upon seeing some of the follow-up responses here. So I'm gonna try to say as much on my end as possible before I start getting frustrated again due to my immense lack of patience, which I understand is something I've dealt for the majority of life to where it's practically chronic atp.

First off, I understand I wasn't supposed to delete Fanta's response, but the way the reply was worded as well as after seeing the message within the reverted revision of one of the profiles....it rubbed me the wrong way and the act was done upon impulse. It's not an exercising of personal grudge or ill will, but an act of frustration and exasperation, and I understand and admit me being wrong for that, despite the circumstances.

Secondly, about the changes. I admit the mistake of making a tier change without a proper CRT; again, I have a terrible lack of patience especially considering the verse is literally only managed by two whole people: me and Fanta. NOW...for the ability additions, I do not think there is as much to question here for the most part, but I wouldn't know if CRTing for every single thing even just a small ability addition is always the best option especially the evidence is right there in front of us, so it's like "why even waste time to make a thread for such?"

For NPI, I was initially going to make a blog, yes, but I decided not to and thus that draft is in permanent limbo. Cause the evidence turned out VERY straightforward as I had already mentioned back in the Blue Archive discussion thread, but I was hesitant at the time because there wasn't enough people aside from a handful of rare visitors.
Like I said, it was hilariously obvious, hence why I do not believe it needs ANOTHER CRT.
Here is the imgur link I provided for source...it's not the best, but I personally believe it's sufficient enough.
#1

As for other abilities or just notable feat additions, I would assume it's referring to the multiple additions to one particular profile, and again, this is also fairly straightforward to where I don't believe a CRT is needed for now (Blue Archive isn't actually a very lore-driven franchise, so it's already a pain in the ass to search for such bluntly presented evidence, be it the dialogue or the visual presentation of the feat itself in a CG(s).

Here's one of the examples I provided for Aris...again, from Imgur.
#2

Here was another one I was gonna add for Hoshino, though maybe this one could've just been replaced with a straight YouTube clip, instead.
#3

That's all I have to say right now. I sincerely apologize for the deletion of the reply on my profile message will that was due to my emotional impulse of frustration. I've been dealing with a bunch of other things outside this platform that was not too good for my mental health, and considering Fanta has also mentioned wanting to temporarily take leave for a while due to things related to outside the platform, too, I believe similar circumstances of my end should be in consideration as well, not that I'm asking it to lessen my guilt.
 
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Again, just gonna hammer it home that it's quite a rough deal considering only two of us were managing the whole verse, Fanta doing most of the heavy lifting especially early on. I wish we had more active help, so we don't need to run into this sort of trouble again in the future. Just a last extra comment regarding this unfortunate mess.
 
Yo. Uh, am I not needed here anymore? I would like to resume my my ban-break from the forums themselves and to be "banned" until June 10, if there isn't any issues. Mainly cuz I am going to cut myself off most social media stuff and YouTube for a good chunk of time due to me wanting to play Deltarune C3/4 spoiler-free and form my own thoughts and opinion on it, tbh.
I can re-block you again after we have finished here. 🙏
 
@DarkDragonMedeus @Mr. Bambu @Just_a_Random_Butler @Agnaa @Celestial_Pegasus @Wokistan @Elizhaa @Qawsedf234 @ByAsura @Sir_Ovens @Damage3245 @Starter_Pack @Abstractions @Colonel_Krukov @SamanPatou @GyroNutz @Firestorm808 @Everything12 @Maverick_Zero_X @Crabwhale @GrathOfLux @Dereck03 @Planck69 @LephyrTheRevanchist

What do you think that we should do here? 🙏
Ant that’s a bit overkill lol; no need to tag all of administration for one report.
NOW...for the ability additions, I do not think there is as much to question here for the most part, but I wouldn't know if CRTing for every single thing even just a small ability addition is always the best option especially the evidence is right there in front of us, so it's like "why even waste time to make a thread for such?"
Because there’s so much more nuance to it than what you describe.

What if the scan for one of these self-evident revisions is from non-cannon material?

What if there’s a specific scan that has a unique consideration (to give an example from a popular series - if someone was attempting to add Fire Manipulation to Tanjiro’s profile [demon slayer] when it appears perfectly fine, but we know is just cinematic detailing)?

What if someone’s trying to make a self-evident revision about something in episode 5 that’s later contradicted in episode 6?

This wiki has been running for over 13 years now. Do you really think there wasn’t a time when things use to run exactly as you describe ? There’s a reason it’s like this; CRTs are the biggest filter we have against inaccurate information on our profiles.
So I'm gonna try to say as much on my end as possible before I start getting frustrated again
Dude. Literally no reason to get frustrated. This isn’t work this isn’t school, it’s a battle-boarding hobby, all we’re saying is please go through the same process that everyone goes through.

I’m sorry to hear about your off-site problems, and I do hope everything ends up working out for you.

But yea, I don’t think there’s any malice here, so just a warning is okay with me.
 
Ant that’s a bit overkill lol; no need to tag all of administration for one report.

Because there’s so much more nuance to it than what you describe.

What if the scan for one of these self-evident revisions is from non-cannon material?

What if there’s a specific scan that has a unique consideration (to give an example from a popular series - if someone was attempting to add Fire Manipulation to Tanjiro’s profile [demon slayer] when it appears perfectly fine, but we know is just cinematic detailing)?

What if someone’s trying to make a self-evident revision about something in episode 5 that’s later contradicted in episode 6?

This wiki has been running for over 13 years now. Do you really think there wasn’t a time when things use to run exactly as you describe ? There’s a reason it’s like this; CRTs are the biggest filter we have against inaccurate information on our profiles.
Thanks for replying.

I did put into consideration all of what you said there and double-checked as much as possible and made sure everything was from official sources even if it means straight from the cutscenes themselves, as well as making sure there's no proactive retconning, even listing when needed when something supposedly contradicting it are actually outliers or PSI. I do understand why CRTs are needed, so I apologize for being hasty and will make sure next time around.
I do still think the currently applied additions are consistent and should be just fine due to how straightforward I felt they were....as opposed to other additions I initially considered but have way too little to go off of.
 
Yes, I do not think that any ban is necessary here, but it would probably be good if you collaborate by helping out with reverting any drastic unaccepted revisions that you may have made. 🙏

@FantaRin_The_First

What do you think? 🙏
Sounds reasonable to me. Like all Dragon needs to do is remove NPI from profiles, ye? That's the most drastic thing that they added/changed on profiles, IIRC.
 
Sounds reasonable to me. Like all Dragon needs to do is remove NPI from profiles, ye? That's the most drastic thing that they added/changed on profiles, IIRC.
For NPI, I was initially going to make a blog, yes, but I decided not to and thus that draft is in permanent limbo. Cause the evidence turned out VERY straightforward as I had already mentioned back in the Blue Archive discussion thread, but I was hesitant at the time because there wasn't enough people aside from a handful of rare visitors.
Like I said, it was hilariously obvious, hence why I do not believe it needs ANOTHER CRT.
Here is the imgur link I provided for source...it's not the best, but I personally believe it's sufficient enough.
#1
 
Sounds reasonable to me. Like all Dragon needs to do is remove NPI from profiles, ye? That's the most drastic thing that they added/changed on profiles, IIRC.
What about the stat changes and other ability changes, to name a few? You can double-check.
For NPI, I was initially going to make a blog, yes, but I decided not to and thus that draft is in permanent limbo. Cause the evidence turned out VERY straightforward as I had already mentioned back in the Blue Archive discussion thread, but I was hesitant at the time because there wasn't enough people aside from a handful of rare visitors.
Like I said, it was hilariously obvious, hence why I do not believe it needs ANOTHER CRT.
Here is the imgur link I provided for source...it's not the best, but I personally believe it's sufficient enough.
#1
It is a pain, but this:
This wiki has been running for over 13 years now. Do you really think there wasn’t a time when things use to run exactly as you describe ? There’s a reason it’s like this; CRTs are the biggest filter we have against inaccurate information on our profiles.

all we’re saying is please go through the same process that everyone goes through.
 
So now what? Can I just add the 3-A Tier myself and put the link to prove the CRT got approved?
I dunno, which one is the most recent? The one that started last November or the one that started 5 days ago?
 
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