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hsr additions and paths

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Sandbox here:
TL;DR: Everyone gets "Imaginary Energy" manipulation from drawing powers from Aeons, Pathstriders and those who have powers of respective Paths gets abilities from aeons listed there. Emanators have all their abilities set at 1-B range as well as some abilities being 1-B in potency, IMG energy is 1-B range for everyone.
This page probably doesnt need to be added but i made a sandbox for it to cram everything needed for crt. ofc if there comes to agreement to make this page then i will add it on wiki.
Welt gets Honkai energy but (Herrscher Authority) due to still possesing power of herrscher of reason, but on a very limited scale.
In addition to that Emanators (and those scaling to 3-B too) should get upgraded to "Class Y" from this calc here.

Next up Amphoreus cast:
Castorice gets:

Her Aura and Death Manipulation will be Passive due to her curse that harms and kills anyone coming near her
Passive Deconstruction as her touching people causes their bodies to break apart
And resistance to Death Manipulation and Deconstruction due to Fighting Thanatos an actual Titan of Death
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That also means every soul in hoyo also resists Cm1 so that should be added on profiles.
Mydei gets all abilites from nikador:
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Couldn’t you just add that portion of castorice’s abilities without a crt if you forgot to add it during the profile creation
 
I disagree with CM1 and Info2 for Castorice, while souls in the verse are indeed these, this is just limited summoning (she can only summon souls that haven't fully passed) and NPI as it is only interacting with them, if Castorice were to manipulate souls I would be fine with it, I will comment on the rest later.
 
Shiroiyo said:
I disagree with CM1 and Info2 for Castorice, while souls in the verse are indeed these, this is just limited summoning (she can only summon souls that haven't fully passed) and NPI as it is only interacting with them, if Castorice were to manipulate souls I would be fine with it, I will comment on the rest later.
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What is interacting with cm mind and info for soul hax in hoyo even about then 💔
i always tought interacting with souls in hoyo granted all those abilities but guess i was wrong then
 
I think, this just range 1b , not potential hax 1b. as i understand it, why can this get hax potential 1b because of imaginary energy right? but that won't be enough to get hax potential to stage 1b which is even equal to IT itself. is there any evidence to support that they hax are able to affect 1b structure? as i understand it, why can this get hax potential 1b because of imaginary energy right?

but that won't be enough to get hax potential to stage 1b which is even equal to IT itself. is there any evidence to support that they are able to affect structure 1b? because the path that originates from aeon does not prove that what is released by the character has the same potential as its source
 
Furina003 said:
I think, this just range 1b , not potential hax 1b. as i understand it, why can this get hax potential 1b because of imaginary energy right? but that won't be enough to get hax potential to stage 1b which is even equal to IT itself. is there any evidence to support that they hax are able to affect 1b structure? as i understand it, why can this get hax potential 1b because of imaginary energy right?

but that won't be enough to get hax potential to stage 1b which is even equal to IT itself. is there any evidence to support that they are able to affect structure 1b? because the path that originates from aeon does not prove that what is released by the character has the same potential as its source
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I dont even know what the hell are you talking about. Most of haxxes in Hsr arent even smurf anymore and i dont even know if any of the hax can stay smurfs in new hax standard.
aeons are different case since they are path itself and scale to 1-B so they are fine. Anyway i updated op accordingly now so ill call some staff
 
This seems to be dealing with very high-end and complex topics regarding the verse, which I am not familiar with.

Have you tried contacting staff who are knowledgeable directly?
 
FinePoint said:
This seems to be dealing with very high-end and complex topics regarding the verse, which I am not familiar with.

Have you tried contacting staff who are knowledgeable directly?
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knowledgeable in terms of verse? well one (garri) got banished into shadow realm so idk
Other than that i asked Lephyr Ddm and glass (i think?) who are always responding on crts
 
PedjaTarzan said:
knowledgeable in terms of verse? well one (garri) got banished into shadow realm so idk
Other than that i asked Lephyr Ddm and glass (i think?) who are always responding on crts
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Indeed, I lack any significant knowledge of the verse, and so don't feel comfortable attempting to analyze its cosmology unless absolutely necessary.
 
FinePoint said:
Indeed, I lack any significant knowledge of the verse, and so don't feel comfortable attempting to analyze its cosmology unless absolutely necessary.
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No worries, ill get someone else (preferably knowledgeable staff into hax and tier 1) to evaluate.
 
Why isn't Erudition among the paths listed?

While I agree with everyone getting Imaginary Energy, I feel the path specific haxes should only be reserved for Emanators and Aeons (Only exception being the Trailblaze Path due to Akivali being MIA). Or people that are associated with Emanators or Aeons.

While Pathstriders do draw power from the Aeons like Emanators do, they are not on the same level and you yourself mentioned this exactly. The power that Pathstriders get could just be Imaginary Energy. In fact, almost every feat featured in the path section is either A. Done by an Emanator or Aeon directly, B. Done by someone who might be an Emanator like Sparkle, or C. Done by beings who are directly linked to Aeons or Emanators like Mem being the direct creation Fuli and the Ten Stonehearts getting borrowed power from Diamond, The Emanator of Preservation.

Just my thoughts. Overall, great work.
 
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AlphaOmegaV1 said:
Why isn't Erudition among the paths listed?

While I agree with everyone getting Imaginary Energy, I feel the path specific haxes should only be reserved for Emanators (Only exception being the Trailblaze Path). While Pathstriders do draw power from the Aeons like Emanators do, they are not on the same level and the description you linked even says exactly this. The power that Pathstriders get could just be Imaginary Energy and nothing else. In fact, almost every feat featured in the path section is either A. Done by an Emanator or Aeon directly, B. Done by someone who might be an Emanator like Sparkle, or C. Beings who are directly linked to Emanators like Mem being the direct creation Fuli and the Ten Stonehearts getting borrowed power from Diamond, The Emanator of Preservation.

Just my thoughts. Overall, great work.
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Sparkle powers comes from mask that grants powers by Aha
Trailblazer gets all powers from aeons they fet gazed at, and fuli directly called them Pathstrider of Remembrance so it shouldnt be a problem to give Pathstriders thse powers.
Not sure what you meant by Diamond tho
 
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Sparkle powers comes from mask that grants powers by Aha
Trailblazer gets all powers from aeons they fet gazed at, and fuli directly called them Pathstrider of Remembrance so it shouldnt be a problem to give Pathstriders thse powers.
Not sure what you meant by Diamond tho
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Ok? That just falls under the "C" category. And Diamond (The Emanator of Preservation) shares his power with the Ten Stonehearts.

The thing is the Trailblazer also has something pretty important inside of them that others don't have, The Stellaron. A Stellaron has shown to be able to grant wishes and buff people to a pretty big degree as seen with Cocolia
 
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AlphaOmegaV1 said:
Ok? That just falls under the "C" category. And Diamond (The Emanator of Preservation) shares his power with the Ten Stonehearts.
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Yeah but cornerstones are also body parts of qlipoth so its still based around qlipoth giving his path powers to them
AlphaOmegaV1 said:
The thing is the Trailblazer also has something pretty important inside of them, the Stellaron. A Stellaron has shown to be able to grant wishes and buff people to a pretty big degree as seen with Cocolia
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what kind of wishes tho, are we sure trailblazer getting gazed by Qlipoth was bcs of stellaron or TB achieving will of preservation
 
PedjaTarzan said:
Yeah but cornerstones are also body parts of qlipoth so its still based around qlipoth giving his path powers to them
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Yeah, but I'm saying that it shouldn't scale to every pathstrider, because those seem like very specific circumstances and conditions.

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what kind of wishes tho, are we sure trailblazer getting gazed by Qlipoth was bcs of stellaron or TB achieving will of preservation
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Well as seen on Cocolia's profile it states that she was granted direct access to manipulate Imaginary Energy thanks to the Stellaron so we know it can empower someone to significant degrees, and on that very wiki, it says that Herta herself states Stellarons are a type of lifeform that can link them to a path or Aeon's power, and they respond to the desires of the world to which it is tethered.
 
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AlphaOmegaV1 said:
Yeah, but I'm saying that shouldn't scale to every pathstrider, because those seem like very specific circumstances and conditions.


Well as seen on Cocolia's profile it states that she was granted direct access to manipulate Imaginary Energy thanks to the Stellaron so we know it can empower someone to significant degrees, and on that very wiki, it says that Herta herself states Stellarons are a type of lifeform that can link them to a path or Aeon's power, and they respond to the desires of the world to which it is tethered.
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Idk about second part but yeah stellarons grant imaginary energy since its also coning from img energy
can you link me herta scan?
 
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Here it is
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According to what i understand she only says that stellaron is tethering with a specific path which she later says it is likely Nanook the Deatruction
We have a scene when trailblazer gets gazed by Xipe sunday says that THEY got interested in them but im n phone so i cant rly find the statement
I will think about this when im on PC
 
PedjaTarzan said:
According to what i understand she only says that stellaron is tethering with a specific path which she later says it is likely Nanook the Deatruction
We have a scene when trailblazer gets gazed by Xipe sunday says that THEY got interested in them but im n phone so i cant rly find the statement
I will think about this when im on PC
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No problem take your time.

Also, shouldn't Imaginary Energy Manipulation have passive Biological Manipulation, Corrossion Inducement, and Space-Time Manip upscaling scaling from Fragmentum, which is caused by the Steallron? As well as Non-Physical Interaction for more obvious reasons?
 
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AlphaOmegaV1 said:
No problem take your time.
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okay i found it, he says that the trailblazers bond impresses even an aeon, which is why they got gazed by Xipe
AlphaOmegaV1 said:
Also, shouldn't Imaginary Energy Manipulation have passive Biological Manipulation, Corrossion Inducement, and Space-Time Manip upscaling scaling from Fragmentum, which is caused by the Steallron? As well as Non-Physical Interaction for more obvious reasons?
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Perhaps yea but i dont know if stellaron is 1:1 imaginary energy or just part of one. tho i can leave that in another thread
 
PedjaTarzan said:
oh i see, well i already updated sandbox page, you can add the stellaron thingy too if you want to
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Ok thank you, I'll add the Stellaron detail, under the section about paths with items.

You say that you wanted to leave Biological Manipulation, Corrossion Inducement, Space-Time Manip, and NPI for IMG Energy for a different thread or just add them?
 
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AlphaOmegaV1 said:
Ok thank you, I'll add the Stellaron detail, under the section about paths with items.
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thanks a lot
AlphaOmegaV1 said:
You say that you wanted to leave Biological Manipulation, Corrossion Inducement, Space-Time Manip, and NPI for IMG Energy for a different thread or just add them?
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it would require staff re evaluation so you can ask ddm and post scans abt img energy having those abilities
 
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