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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier

Question for 2-C. If Kamen Rider are actually 1-A smurf (assuming passives), how did they lose to... pretty much everyone above besides the number 1 spot?
 
I'm sure that Bondyen and Jhowah are superior to Gu Chensha and Tellurian and hierarchy Consensus are considered to be supra meta basslines(or higher than supra meta)
All of this was accepted in the Revision thread.
Jehovah is the supreme God of creation and he created Tellurian.
Nop. Gu chensha already trascends supra meta at like....The 12 stage of deathless (there are infinite stages, each stage having an infinite hierarchy of trascendental+non dual compared the the previous one), that isn't even taking into account HBH.
 
and I quote
A vacuum that's it ? No problem
Not only is that the worst resistance negation I've ever seen (and in fact I'm surprised it even got accepted), that isn't equalizable to BLACK damage, this isn't bypassing resistance by negating them, this is bypassing resistances by simply not measurably not being the same thing as what you resist, like I said above, trying to resist BLACK with normal mind resistance is like trying to resist fire manip by resisting water manip, it just doesn't work, so their resistance to resistance negation isn't going to work.
That's kind of NLF. Link ?
 
That's kind of NLF. Link ?
Not really, if you had the correct type of resistance negation resistance, it would work. It's the same reason why resisting having your soul controlled won't give you a resistance to having your soul destroyed, both are soul manip, but both are very much different things, your resistance negation is someone actively negating or reducing a resistance, this one is literally just side stepping a resistance by simply not being on the same scale as things which affect the mind or body in-verse
 
Nop. Gu chensha already trascends supra meta at like....The 12 stage of deathless (there are infinite stages, each stage having an infinite hierarchy of trascendental+non dual compared the the previous one), that isn't even taking into account HBH.
no wtf are you even saying, HBH is precisely what makes the high 1-A (meta-meta-meta...infinite) and guchensha is beyond that, baseline supra quality. Go read the thread again...
 
no wtf are you even saying, HBH is precisely what makes the high 1-A (meta-meta-meta...infinite) and guchensha is beyond that, baseline supra quality. Go read the thread again...
No? Even the somewhat high Deathless already makes him High 1-A because
A. Trascending hierarchies
B. Non dual shit
 
No? Even the somewhat high Deathless already makes him High 1-A because
A. Trascending hierarchies
B. Non dual shit

9th deathless = 1-A
10th deathless = High 1-A
but 11 deathless and above werent acepted as meta-extentions, ultima rejected that.

So then they mentioned that the deathless realm is part of the first heavens, and that there are more heavens, each heavens beign a hierarchy. Which concluded that HBH is High 1-A(Meta-Meta-Meta....Infinite)
Note: Meta means hierarchies in this case.

then gu chensha is above those infinite meta-extentions. And since there wasnt an specific term for that level, phoenks proposed to use the term supra-quality to define the level in which gu chensha was.

therefore, the verse caps at High 1-A(Supra quality)
 
Just want to let you know. All Tellurian creators and Godheads in the Consensus hierarchy have all the requirements for High 1-A+.

They have Pure ontological and even Illogical transcendence. Pure (im)possibilities.

The only reason they are not, is because the Triat, and those dirextly connected to them like Gaia and the Jade Emperor are beyond the Consensus Hierarchy entirely, making them "above" them. Which for High 1-A+, either types cant really be a thing.


And that doesn't even take into account the sheer insanity of (il)logical states of Transduality they have..
 
Just want to let you know. All Tellurian creators and Godheads in the Consensus hierarchy have all the requirements for High 1-A+.

They have Pure ontological and even Illogical transcendence. Pure (im)possibilities.

The only reason they are not, is because the Triat, and those dirextly connected to them like Gaia and the Jade Emperor are beyond the Consensus Hierarchy entirely, making them "above" them. Which for High 1-A+, either types cant really be a thing.


And that doesn't even take into account the sheer insanity of (il)logical states of Transduality they have..
do you agree that high 1-A+ characters should be on the list?
 
do you agree that high 1-A+ characters should be on the list?
There cant really be. Cus High 1-A+ are beyond Hierarchies entirely… when the WoD characters in the Consensus Hierarchy… Are the hierarchy


So yeah "Characters from World of Darkness…" straight up should be No. 0 (not even No. 1) in High 1-A
 
9th deathless = 1-A
10th deathless = High 1-A
but 11 deathless and above werent acepted as meta-extentions, ultima rejected that.

So then they mentioned that the deathless realm is part of the first heavens, and that there are more heavens, each heavens beign a hierarchy. Which concluded that HBH is High 1-A(Meta-Meta-Meta....Infinite)
Note: Meta means hierarchies in this case.

then gu chensha is above those infinite meta-extentions. And since there wasnt an specific term for that level, phoenks proposed to use the term supra-quality to define the level in which gu chensha was.

therefore, the verse caps at High 1-A(Supra quality)
Well, you are right, or the main supporter lied.
 
And then there's gonna be JttW, which will also have Infinite Supra-Qualitative Superiority... So it'll be equal to JttW least in terms of Cosmology...

If you allow upcoming revisions. But probably not
 
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Nop. Gu chensha already trascends supra meta at like....The 12 stage of deathless (there are infinite stages, each stage having an infinite hierarchy of trascendental+non dual compared the the previous one), that isn't even taking into account HBH.

The Tellurian and the Consensus are among the highest of High 1-A (Infinite Supra-Qualitative Superiority) because it is (im)possibility itself, throughout all frameworks and worlds. It can not be described in any (non)-conceivable shape or fashion besides through pure metaphors, showcasing the complete and abstract symbology/representation of every and all forms of attributes and qualities, truths and falsehood, zenith and summit of all hierarchies. The latter as it is the omnipresent system within each Tellurian. With it being described as being turtles all the way down, it is an infinite regression of deeper truths deconstructed from the worlds they beings experience. It. Is. Everything.
 
Forgot to say, you can also put Characters from World of Darkness as the No. 1 most powerful for regular 1-A(+). Because they are Absolute Infinite Qualitative Layers above Baseline 1-A. Due to the Tapestry being absolutely everything given "form". And this includes even mathematical constants, including Set Theory itself. Which its absolute zenith is (Absolute Infinity)
 
Forgot to say, you can also put Characters from World of Darkness as the No. 1 most powerful for regular 1-A(+). Because they are Absolute Infinite Qualitative Layers above Baseline 1-A. Due to the Tapestry being absolutely everything given "form". And this includes even mathematical constants, including Set Theory itself. Which its absolute zenith is (Absolute Infinity)
Absolute Infinity layers or the quantity of all quantities is no longer a thing. It is either Tier 0 or not, as it contains every possible set, including itself, with nothing above it. Therefore, it must be Tier 0 in order to count as Absolute Infinity. Now, you can phrase Tapestry as being all possible/conceivable qualitative layers above baseline 1-A.
 
Absolute Infinity layers or the quantity of all quantities is no longer a thing. It is either Tier 0 or not, as it contains every possible set, including itself, with nothing above it. Therefore, it must be Tier 0 in order to count as Absolute Infinity. Now, you can phrase Tapestry as being all possible/conceivable qualitative layers above baseline 1-A.
No it's not tier 0. That's not how it works with the new tiering system.
 
Absolute Infinity layers or the quantity of all quantities is no longer a thing. It is either Tier 0 or not, as it contains every possible set, including itself, with nothing above it. Therefore, it must be Tier 0 in order to count as Absolute Infinity. Now, you can phrase Tapestry as being all possible/conceivable qualitative layers above baseline 1-A.
this was done by editing wikipedia mid crt btw 💔
 
Not really, if you had the correct type of resistance negation resistance, it would work. It's the same reason why resisting having your soul controlled won't give you a resistance to having your soul destroyed, both are soul manip, but both are very much different things, your resistance negation is someone actively negating or reducing a resistance, this one is literally just side stepping a resistance by simply not being on the same scale as things which affect the mind or body in-verse
Who should I use for the match ?
 
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Absolute Infinity layers or the quantity of all quantities is no longer a thing. It is either Tier 0 or not, as it contains every possible set, including itself, with nothing above it. Therefore, it must be Tier 0 in order to count as Absolute Infinity. Now, you can phrase Tapestry as being all possible/conceivable qualitative layers above baseline 1-A.
Yeah it still is... quantities is still a thing for the hierarchies of each tier.

That whole thing about the Entire Tiering System being about Mathematics (such as High 1-A being inaccessible cardinals/Low 1-A being Aleph-1/1-A being Aleph-2 and all that) is no longer thing.
 
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Absolute Infinity layers or the quantity of all quantities is no longer a thing. It is either Tier 0 or not, as it contains every possible set, including itself, with nothing above it. Therefore, it must be Tier 0 in order to count as Absolute Infinity. Now, you can phrase Tapestry as being all possible/conceivable qualitative layers above baseline 1-A.
So, VNU / Multiverse Type IV / Sets of All Sets layers practically..

And my god, isn't Skirk also 5-B? She's better than Mavuika whose hax are literally just not combat applicable at all, and like actual World of Darkness against Xianxia novels when Xianxia lose to Akuto? 😭 It's kinda hard keeping up with all these stuff ngl
 
So, VNU / Multiverse Type IV / Sets of All Sets layers practically..

And my god, isn't Skirk also 5-B? She's better than Mavuika whose hax are literally just not combat applicable at all, and like actual World of Darkness against Xianxia novels when Xianxia lose to Akuto? 😭 It's kinda hard keeping up with all these stuff ngl
ye skirk is better option and her haxxes are combat applicable+passive
 
So, VNU / Multiverse Type IV / Sets of All Sets layers practically..

And my god, isn't Skirk also 5-B? She's better than Mavuika whose hax are literally just not combat applicable at all, and like actual World of Darkness against Xianxia novels when Xianxia lose to Akuto? 😭 It's kinda hard keeping up with all these stuff ngl
There is no "World of Darkness against..." in Ba Sing Se...
 
How far in 1-A+ are Gao Chuan / Joshua?

Are they just Regular Infinite Layers above Baseline 1-A?
 
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