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I am 99% sure this would also be disallowed, since it is still WoG, but I think we should call him to clear up any chances.
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Removing abilities that are entirely justified from WoG (Part 1)
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rule says social media so it will come down to. is this social media. I really dont have an opion on that so I think leave that up to evaulating staff.
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The rule was targetting Twitter and Bluesky mainly. I doubt organized and streamed interviews on Youtube is the same thing. Im going by what Bambu told me when we were arguing in DMs about the rule
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So, someone asked a question on stream and he answered the question?The rule was targetting Twitter and Bluesky mainly. I doubt organized and streamed interviews on Youtube is the same thing. Im going by what Bambu told me when we were arguing in DMs about the rule
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Not really an issue since it is WoG, and YouTube is literally the definition of a "social media", so if we go to that part, it still ain't an issue.
But yeah, I asked Bambu if he could clarify.
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No. There were already prepared questions, and he answered
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Send me the timestamp.
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If the questions were already prepared, it is still very much a leading question...
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I think this depends on whether or not we count YouTube interviews as social media or interviews, we should probably wait for Bambu (Like when you mentioned the interviews did you tell him it was hosted in YouTube?)The rule was targetting Twitter and Bluesky mainly. I doubt organized and streamed interviews on Youtube is the same thing. Im going by what Bambu told me when we were arguing in DMs about the rule
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Doesn't matter due to it being an interview going by what Bambu said and going by Agnaa's words
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Book and show by default defines canon for any verse, however if Tommy's statement isn't contradicted, I don't see why it isn't usuable
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He was talking about not being able to establish canon for Post Crystalized. The Overlord Void thing isn't affected
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If he stated it on social media or a podcast, this is strictly the same tho. He stated multiple times that "canon answers" shouldn't be given on social media and such, he even outright states his answers aren't canon/are not of any worth.
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He just implies the show is the deciding canon which is why its "above" his answer. That's 1:1 the WoG rule for the wiki
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At this point, I will be requesting Ant to reopen the thread again, so I can single-handedly reword it to ban "ANY" WoG.
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So you agree that what he answered (and the justification you want to use) is WoG?
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Why, because its not part of what Bambu agree to??
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At this point, it feels like banning author statements just for the sake of doing so.
Just nuke the entire verse because you want so, if we are going this way.
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No, since you are abusing the wording, and quite literally proving why it requires a rule in the first place. So we again return to the "WoG over actual in-verse feats/statements," the sole thing the thread was to prevent.
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Which according to staff is okay because its an official interview?
Abusing what wording? I explicitly asked Bambu if it was allowed, and he said yes. At this point, you just want to ban this again because you want to, not because its an issue
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And the guy interviewed even says it's non-canon. Like, what do you want more?
Also, I highly doubt Bambu anticipated the fact that "actually there is some podcast where questions were given to a scenarist/creator, that states his answers are non-canon, and his answers are subsequently used to scale the verse".
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I already asked him to specify, and he will clear up if he means in general (most likely), or for Ninjago. Since leading questions are completely banned for all users on the wiki.
Completely avoiding my concern? I am asking if you notified him that it was specifically regarding Ninjago.
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I’ll never get it why y’all so prioritize Tommy saying not to use his words if he himself gives tons of lore expansions, clarifications, etc. Do you want to say that he just said “nuh uh don’t use me” and then like “yuh I’ll answer questions and expand the lore and clarify stuff but this all is not canon fr doing this to waste my time”.
I feel like anyone with common sense would understand that what he means is to prioritize the show over his own words in case of contradiction, which is pretty much a rule in any franchise, but unironically I don’t care enough to fight about this. Just giving my thoughts.
I feel like anyone with common sense would understand that what he means is to prioritize the show over his own words in case of contradiction, which is pretty much a rule in any franchise, but unironically I don’t care enough to fight about this. Just giving my thoughts.
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I'd like to clarify that our stance on WOG for Ninjago specifically is stricter than for other verses, due to this recently implemented discussion rule.
So in this case it is no longer relevant if the question is leading or not, we do not allow WOG for Ninjago from social media at all, which would naturally include YouTube.
So in this case it is no longer relevant if the question is leading or not, we do not allow WOG for Ninjago from social media at all, which would naturally include YouTube.
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That's not what he said. And later on he clarified that it was about the new creative team along with the new show having WoG over him
What kind of excuse is this?
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The interview didn't include answering comments on live. So its like recording an event or call and uploading it into socials. Very different from the kind of dissallowed statements staff agreed to
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He explains it himself the best. He had ideas, he had "headcanons" (if you could call it like this) about how characters were, how places were... If the stuff isn't in the show or in any books right now, it means it's non-canon until proven otherwise.
lul.
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Technically the rule doesn't specify it even has to be a question.
Also, from my understanding he is indeed answering questions from fans which were simply prepared ahead of time.
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Alright, that's it, I am requesting the reopening of the staff thread.
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Again, referring to DR as previously explained
Doesn't change anything I said lollul.
How would an interview work otherwise?
Yeah, so you can twist what staff told me:
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Given that Bambu is the one who put the rule there, and yet he is contradicting the actual wording of it, it is probably appropriate to re-open the staff thread about it. I will do so.Yeah, so you can twist what staff told me:
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So the only point you're arguing is "Well it's WoG but since the format is different, that's fine". Yeah, no.
If it was like, member of the teams solely exchanging between each other and giving "canon answers" I would personally agree with it. The fact the questions were from twitter kinda defeat the whole purpose of the thing.
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There's many interview as such as this as well, but again, Im going by what he told me, and he implied "Reddit AMA" kinds of stuff is ok while I asked about Ninjago
