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Is this Qualitative Superiority?

MujRocks

MujRocks

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The World Tree is omnipresent throughout the universe, the universe being infinite in size.

This World Tree is but a needle in a desert (The Sea of the Afterlife). However the author states that the Sea of the Afterlife is actually incomparable to a mere desert on two accounts.

One being its “desolate-ness”, as a desert is merely empty for the most part whereas the Sea of the Afterlife is a void of nothing.

The other being its vastness, as the Sea of the Afterlife is described as, on multiple occasions, an endless, boundless expanse.

What I am trying to say is that the author wanted to write “a needle in an endless expanse of nothingness”, but used imagery to convey the thought. Show not tell ahh Do you agree? Or am I tripping?
 
Are the dimensions here seperate 'universal space-times' inside one infinite universe structure? something like how Ben 10 multiverse of dimension works? and Void or dimension gap is just the empty space between dimensions? wouldnt this void just scale to the infinite universe itself?

Do you have scans that state the entire infinite universe is just a background to the void. as at the moment with what you have provided, sea of afterlife doesnt actually look like it is even a higher dimensional axis either.
 
Frey_Starlight said:
Are the dimensions here seperate 'universal space-times' inside one infinite universe structure? something like how Ben 10 multiverse of dimension works? and Void or dimension gap is just the empty space between dimensions? wouldnt this void just scale to the infinite universe itself?

Do you have scans that state the entire infinite universe is just a background to the void. as at the moment with what you have provided, sea of afterlife doesnt actually look like it is even a higher dimensional axis either.
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each dimension is a planet sized space time, however the actual universe is the rift between dimensions, or in essence, a void. It has an overarching timeline however, unlike The Abyss which does not.

It doesn't scale to the dimensional rift, it scales above it. The world tree = the rift.

Wdym "background". The Abyss is a background to the dimensional rift, yes. That's what the scans say, hence it's almost impossible to find the world tree.
 
Frey_Starlight said:
Do you have scans that state the entire infinite universe is just a background to the void.
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the world tree = the rift in dimensions as the rift is the universe itself, and the world tree is omnipresent throughout the universe. Both of these have been posted on the thread.
 
MujRocks said:
each dimension is a planet sized space time, however the actual universe is the rift between dimensions, or in essence, a void. It has an overarching timeline however, unlike The Abyss which does not.

It doesn't scale to the dimensional rift, it scales above it. The world tree = the rift.

Wdym "background". The Abyss is a background to the dimensional rift, yes. That's what the scans say, hence it's almost impossible to find the world tree.
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I am dead ass going to ban you from making threads 😭. This is NOt how it works
 
Johner2133451 said:
For current standards, an infinite structure that contains 2-A multiverse doesn't count as higher dimensional anymore unless more context

Situation here is similar
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?

this has nothing to do with being an infinite structure containing a 2-A universe. This is to do with dwarfing infinite reality to the point it is infinitesimal, or in this case "a needle in an endless expanse of nothing". That's qualitative superiority, no?
 
MujRocks said:
One being its “desolate-ness”, as a desert is merely empty for the most part whereas the Sea of the Afterlife is a void of nothing.
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"desolate-ness" The distinction between "empty for the most part" and a "void of nothing" is a qualitative difference. One implies the absence of things, the other the absence of existence as we understand it within the universe. This isn't just a matter of degree; it's a difference in nature.


MujRocks said:
The other being its vastness, as the Sea of the Afterlife is described as, on multiple occasions, an endless, boundless expanse.
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"vastness" While both are described as immense, the emphasis on "endless, boundless expanse" for the Sea of the Afterlife, especially in contrast to the already infinite universe, suggests a level of scale that might be conceptually beyond simple quantitative comparison. so that's a reason why i am agree quantitative (not superiority) if something wrong just tell me where it is...
 
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SweetDao said:
No. This could as well just be quantitative superiority.
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I feel like it depends on how you interpret it. On the one hand, you could presume the author is talking about two inf spaces, both being extrapolated upwards so that both are seen as finite comparison of each other.

On the other hand you could see it as the author portraying both infinities as finite, before stating that this "endless expanse" is effectively infinitely larger than the world tree, potentially even forgetting his infinite size statement.

irregardless, a guy much better at the SL cosmology outlined quite a few mistakes i made, so I highly doubt this will matter (and there's no point arguing abt something incorrect). I doubt you'll be seeing the end of this statement however.
 
MujRocks said:
I feel like it depends on how you interpret it. On the one hand, you could presume the author is talking about two inf spaces, both being extrapolated upwards so that both are seen as finite comparison of each other.
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It's not how I interpret it. A "needle" in something is a quantitative difference.
 
MujRocks said:
A needle in an infinite space is still quantitative? can you explain that plz.
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A square is "infinitesimal" compared to a cube, yet, it's not a qualitative difference, just a quantitative one.
 
SweetDao said:
A square is "infinitesimal" compared to a cube, yet, it's not a qualitative difference, just a quantitative one.
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Yeah, i know that much. But what if this "needle" was infinite in size? Yet still looks like a needle in another infinite expanse?

That's... what the whole post is about...
 
MujRocks said:
Yeah, i know that much. But what if this "needle" was infinite in size? Yet still looks like a needle in another infinite expanse?

That's... what the whole post is about...
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Then you could, perhaps, make a case for quantitative difference. Depending on what the lower object dimensionality/infinity is. If it's High 3-A/Low 2-C etc
 
this is likely just going in loops atm. adding to what sweetdao is saying, the very nature of a 1-A void which was the initial premise with BDE type 2, you need that needle which is infinite to basically encompass all higher dimensional infinity in the tier system shows and then that void can have the base premise of being qualitative superior to needle in vast expanse.
tho ngl it really is hard, i have seen verse where universes are comparable to grain of sands to a bigger infinite structure and still get only low 1-C
 
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SweetDao said:
Then you could, perhaps, make a case for quantitative difference. Depending on what the lower object dimensionality/infinity is. If it's High 3-A/Low 2-C etc
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do you mean qualitative? or not?

it's low 2-C

But if it is a spaceless/timeless void, the difference can't be a dimension higher because it lacks dimensions entirely, no?
 
Frey_Starlight said:
this is likely just going in loops atm. adding to what sweetdao is saying, the very nature of a 1-A void which was the initial premise with BDE type 2, you need that needle which is infinite to basically encompass all higher dimensional infinity in the tier system shows and then that void can have the base premise of being qualitative superior to needle in vast expanse.
tho ngl it really is hard, i have seen verse where universes are comparable to grain of sands to a bigger infinite structure and still get only low 1-C
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really? where on VSBW is this stated?
 
MujRocks said:
do you mean qualitative? or not?

it's low 2-C

But if it is a spaceless/timeless void, the difference can't be a dimension higher because it lacks dimensions entirely, no?
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No, I mean quantitative.

Then, perhaps you can argue for Low 1-C.

You have to prove that. Not all "Voids" are "essentially" qualitatively superior. Even if they "were", there is a difference between Low 1-A and 1-A "Void".
 
SweetDao said:
No, I mean quantitative.

Then, perhaps you can argue for Low 1-C.

You have to prove that. Not all "Voids" are "essentially" qualitatively superior. Even if they "were", there is a difference between Low 1-A and 1-A "Void".
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thanks a lot
 
I would not interpret this as qualitative superiority, no. The discussion above is sufficient as to explain why.
 
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