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[69Blood69]

So with the last season that ended, I think its time for a new crt

Joe​

He should be Athletic Human from an accepted calc, with these feats adding consistency.

Spoiler: Lifting Strength Feats

• Single-handedly swung Marienne's body against the ground hard enough to break her arm
• Snapped Natalie's corpse finger, which should be on this level
• Overpowered Henderson, who is a bigger and taller guy than Joe, and threw him down the stairs with enough force to break his neck
• Overpowered and strangled Vic to death, who is a professional bodyguard
• Accidently strangled Rhys to death in a fit of rage
• Pushed Ryan hard enough to send him flying off the parking lot
• Easily threw Adam away, despite having his entire body weight on Joe and being poorly positioned
• Easily lifted Beck away from an incoming train using practically a single arm
• Presumably lifted Bob and hang him by the celling

Peak Human in Stamina from these feats

Spoiler: Stamina Feats

• Joe was capable of enduring a car crash that gave him a head injury, staying awake for an entire night and managed to overpower Peach just after getting shot in the leg, while still physically weakened from a beating he received a few days ago
• Overpowered and killed Beck, despite having been stabbed in the stomach with typewriters keys and having a mallet smashed against his head with enough force to render him unconscious for a very short time
• Endured falling directly on his back from a third story window, after directly went searching Gemma and killed her
• Endured cutting his own forearm in order to put a key inside, later bit off his skin and stitches to retrieve it and overpowered Kate despite his injuries, and then recovered from being hit in the head with a mallet
• Endured being stabbed in the ribs with a pair of knuckledusters and having his genitals blown off with a gunshot

Peak Human in Travel Speed from these feats

Spoiler: Travel Speed Feats

• Blitzed Bronte while she was aiming a gun at him
• Ran across an entire parking lot in mere seconds, blitzing Ryan at the same time
• Rapidly caught up to Reagan, who is a former rugby player
• Got from the ground to the top of a building in multiple seconds
• Quickly escaped the Hampshire country house and got into the woods

Here is also a list of abilities that should be added

Spoiler: New abilities

• Preparation (Hid a key inside his forearm before being imprisoned in his cage. Took pills of adrenaline incase if he is poisoned by Love. Planned killing Tom Lockwood, and framing Nadia for killing Edward)
• Information Analysis (Can analyze his surroundings, even managed to find a hidden camera inside a book from afar, and noticed a print in a book at first glance, which indicated him that it had been used. He can easily read into people at a glance, something he does constantly throughout the entire show)
• Photographic Memory (By looking at a card for about half a second, he was able to memorize: the name and the address of the hotel that was written on the card, and also a room number. And the text was upside down to Joe's perspective. Joe was able to remember him killing the riches, which was done by Rhys (his second personality). A person with DID can’t remember the things done by his other personality so this is an excellent memory feat. In the time jump between season 3 and 4, Joe had observed every artist's haunt in Paris over and over. He did this because he was searching for Marianne who is an artist. Later in the scene, when Joe sees a painting similar to the one at Marianne’s house, he instantly recognizes it. Joe had only seen the painting at Marianne’s house for less than a minute and he could still remember it in perfect detail a few years later)
• Limited Technology Manipulation (Using a Frequency Jammer, Joe managed to disactivate all the cameras around Henderson's house)
• Resistance to Poison Manipulation/Paralysis Inducement (Using Adrenaline, Joe managed to counter the aconite's paralytic effectsand regained movement much more faster)

Love​

I think she should be Athlete level from being able to easily knock out Forty with a single punch as a teenager (Though Forty is also teenager, he would still be around 10-B and given how dark it is compared to earlier, it is very much possible that Forty was blacked out for more than 15 min hence giving him a moderate brain damage) and subdued/likely knocked out Sherry who Cary claimed knows Krav Maga. (She woke up in the next morning, meaning Love possibly gave her a moderate brain damage with her bare hands)

She should also be At least Athletic in c/r speed since she could swing an axe at Nathalie before she could react, could react to charging attempt from Sherry and quickly grabbing a knife in response, and also these other consistent feats

Also probably a bump in LS just to At least Average Human since she could overpower Sofia, a grown adult as a teenager, load Candace's corpse into a trunk, also probably overpowered Sherry and dragged her unconscious body from upstairs

Cary​

His lifting strength should downgrade from Peak Human to At least Athletic Human since he only upscales from Joe who is Athletic.

He should also have his Pressure Points removed since he never showed any feats described in this, plus the justification is baseless.

His Intelligence should also be downgraded from At least Above Average to just Above Average since none of the feats in his intelligence can be worth that rating

Verse​

Remade the page since it was rough, adding a new summary, power of the verse's description, and the calculation part

Conclusion​

Agree: HorrorHistory, Johi13, ThePrimalHunter
Neutral:
Disagree:

 

[HorrorHistory]

I think Love should be “At least Athletic Human” for C/R speed. Other than that, I agree with everything.

 

[Arkenis]

Joe should now scale to 1100 Joules since he fractured Clayton's skull in a single slam, killing him

He hit him on the fire place. And that calc is for a punch.

 

[69Blood69]

He hit him on the fire place. And that calc is for a punch.

The calc is an approximation for a skull's durability, since a punch from an MMA fighter did nothing to a replication of a human skull supposed to be as tough as a real one

But yeah, he did hit him on the fire place. I'll wait for more people's opinion until deciding whether the calc is usable or not

 

[Johi13]

agreed

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

He should be At least Athletic Human, if not outright Peak Human in LS since he almost effortlessly snapped Dante's ankle with his bare hands, which could require as much forces as neck snapping (So 1000Lbs/453.592 Kg). Here is also a list of feats that brings more consistency to the changes

Breaking an ankle is not the same as breaking a neck, so I disagree with this

Everything else seems fine, though I'm a bit on the fence with the skull fracturing part since he slammed his head against an edge, concentrating all of the force onto a very small part of the head, which can allow even regular people to do severe damage to other humans. Neutral for now until someone else chimes in on that

 

[69Blood69]

Breaking an ankle is not the same as breaking a neck, so I disagree with this

Would the ankle snapping feat at least land him the Athletic Human rating? Considering that he did it with almost no efforts

Everything else seems fine, though I'm a bit on the fence with the skull fracturing part since he slammed his head against an edge, concentrating all of the force onto a very small part of the head, which can allow even regular people to do severe damage to other humans. Neutral for now until someone else chimes in on that

I understand. Also, do you think Love should be Athlete or Street level?

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Would the ankle snapping feat at least land him the Athletic Human rating? Considering that he did it with almost no efforts

Probably, though I'd reccomend seeing if you can't find a source for how much force it takes to break an ankle like that

I understand. Also, do you think Love should be Athlete or Street level?

Athlete level seems to fit her better, most of her feats are overpowering regular or somewhat athletic people, which I don't think is enough qualification for 9-C

 

[AThe1412]

So with the last season that ended, I think its time for a new crt

Joe​

Joe should now scale to 1100 Joules since he fractured Clayton's skull in a single slam, killing him

References for Common Feats

Throughout fiction and real life, there have been numerous feats demonstrating a certain character's or object's destructive power. This page's purpose is to consolidate calculations for those feats for better convenience in determining an object's or character's Attack Potency or Durability...

vsbattles.fandom.com

What about this?

 

[Arkenis]

He shouldn't scale. He slammed his head on the fireplace.

 

[Golden_Void]

If Joe is peak human, Reagan is Captain America. Clayton's skull was against the edge of a stone. The ankle thing looks like joint manipulation given that he twisted, instead of applying perpendicular force observed in traditional bone breaks except the neck.

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

References for Common Feats

Throughout fiction and real life, there have been numerous feats demonstrating a certain character's or object's destructive power. This page's purpose is to consolidate calculations for those feats for better convenience in determining an object's or character's Attack Potency or Durability...

vsbattles.fandom.com

What about this?

That's for punching a fist-sized hole through a head, not fracturing it

 

[Joe_goldberb]

Joe should upscale from Brontë who tanked this fall completely unharmed with no injuries

 

[Joe_goldberb]

Joe should also gain resistance to pain manipulation by being able to cut through and bit his arm with stitches and he didn’t even looked faced by it also he should gain pressure points by being able to target sensitive spots like the carotid artery and the tendon Achilles

 

[69Blood69]

Joe should upscale from Brontë who tanked this fall completely unharmed with no injuries

She rolled upon falling, a technique designed specifically to prevent someone from receiving the full force of a fall, so it wouldn't apply. And normal people IRL has survived those kinds of falls. Also how is the window 8m tall, and I already have tried calculating that which gave 3m instead

Joe should also gain resistance to pain manipulation by being able to cut through and bit his arm with stitches and he didn’t even looked faced by it also he should gain pressure points by being able to target sensitive spots like the carotid artery and the tendon Achilles

You can't really get Resistance to pain, it is just high pain tolerance. I'm not sure about Pressure Points

 

[Joe_goldberb]

I don’t think rolling would really do anything tbh it she still tanked it completely unharmed while weakend from a gunshot

 

[Arkenis]

No reason to pixel scale it, it's a two storey house, that's 6m.

 

[Arkenis]

Joe should also gain resistance to pain manipulation by being able to cut through and bit his arm with stitches and he didn’t even looked faced by it also he should gain pressure points by being able to target sensitive spots like the carotid artery and the tendon Achilles

Pain resistance isn't a thing any longer, most pages with are outdated or improper. It would just go to Stamina section

 

[Joe_goldberb]

Pain resistance isn't a thing any longer, most pages with are outdated or improper. It would just go to Stamina section

True

 

[Joe_goldberb]

No reason to pixel scale it, it's a two storey house, that's 6m.

Pixel scaling is more accurate

 

[Arkenis]

Pixel scaling is more accurate

It's not.

 

[Cropfist]

I don’t think rolling would really do anything tbh it she still tanked it completely unharmed while weakend from a gunshot

Her body's whole surface area did not take the full force of the impact.

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

I don’t think rolling would really do anything tbh it she still tanked it completely unharmed while weakend from a gunshot

Rolling like that is one of the first things you learn how to do when getting into stuff such as parkour because it reduces how much damage you take from a fall drastically. You can find plenty of YT videos of people surviving falls just as high with 0 damage by doing rolls such as that

 

[Joe_goldberb]

Rolling like that is one of the first things you learn how to do when getting into stuff such as parkour because it reduces how much damage you take from a fall drastically. You can find plenty of YT videos of people surviving falls just as high with 0 damage by doing rolls such as that

Hmm Alr I get it

 

[69Blood69]

I don’t think rolling would really do anything tbh it she still tanked it completely unharmed while weakend from a gunshot

Even if she didn't rolled, landing on her feet would've still helped her tank the fall and like I said normal people actually survived these kinds of fall

 

[Joe_goldberb]

Should Joe get breaking the fourth wall cause he’s always talking to the audience like when’s he’s introducing us to new characters he narrates about them like he’s talking to us the viewers and there’s some moments like he’s locked in the cage or when loved poisoned him he acts oblivious like he doesn’t know he has doesn’t have a key in his arm or posion to kill love to trick the audience into believing he doesn’t have a way out

 

[69Blood69]

Should Joe get breaking the fourth wall cause he’s always talking to the audience like when’s he’s introducing us to new characters he narrates about them like he’s talking to us the viewers and there’s some moments like he’s locked in the cage or when loved poisoned him he acts oblivious like he doesn’t know he has doesn’t have a key in his arm or posion to kill love to trick the audience into believing he doesn’t have a way out

Maybe "Possibly Fourth Wall Awereness"

 

[Joe_goldberb]

Joe and Dexter should get that and Joe should get pressure points from the Hugo and cop kill he targeted the carotid arterie which is a pressure point I think I made a post about it

 

[69Blood69]

Joe and Dexter should get that and Joe should get pressure points from the Hugo and cop kill he targeted the carotid arterie which is a pressure point I think I made a post about it

Im not sure that would pressure points. Usually it doesn't involve weapons and Pressure Points is being able to target points of body that can make them paralyze or even kill people. Here, Joe only targets an artery with a weapon which I am certain that its not valid

 

[Joe_goldberb]

Im not sure that would pressure points. Usually it doesn't involve weapons and Pressure Points is being able to target points of body that can make them paralyze or even kill people. Here, Joe only targets an artery with a weapon which I am certain that its not valid

Born of the places he targeted where stated by websites to be sensitive parts of the body like the Achilles tendon joe was smart for waiting hugo to pull up then slicing him in the knees so hugo wouldnt be able to disarm him and get weakened allowing joe to finish him off with a clean stab to the carotid artery when Joe sliced Hugo’s Achilles tendon he couldn’t move properly or at all so I think pressure points works

 

[Joe_goldberb]

also I made a post on Cary vs Dexter can you check it out and give me your opinion

 

[69Blood69]

Born of the places he targeted where stated by websites to be sensitive parts of the body like the Achilles tendon joe was smart for waiting hugo to pull up then slicing him in the knees so hugo wouldnt be able to disarm him and get weakened allowing joe to finish him off with a clean stab to the carotid artery when Joe sliced Hugo’s Achilles tendon he couldn’t move properly or at all so I think pressure points works

That would just be a feat for Weapon Mastery. Pressure Points would be like targetting weak points to paralyze, kill or give pain to the opponent and he did this with weapons

 

[Joe_goldberb]

That would just be a feat for Weapon Mastery. Pressure Points would be like targetting weak points to paralyze, kill or give pain to the opponent and he did this with weapons

But it be fair he did target 2 parts of the body which were stated to be pressure points but I understand what your saying

 

[Arkenis]

Should Joe get breaking the fourth wall cause he’s always talking to the audience like when’s he’s introducing us to new characters he narrates about them like he’s talking to us the viewers and there’s some moments like he’s locked in the cage or when loved poisoned him he acts oblivious like he doesn’t know he has doesn’t have a key in his arm or posion to kill love to trick the audience into believing he doesn’t have a way out

What if he's just schizophrenic? We've seen him hallucinate people, dead people, forget hours of a day.

 

[69Blood69]

Bump

btw I don't know why but Cary shouldn't be "At least Peak Human". The only thing he did is overpower and restrain Joe, he would just be "At least Athletic Human"

 

[69Blood69]

Bump

 

[Cropfist]

Should Joe get breaking the fourth wall cause he’s always talking to the audience

It seems more like his stream of consciousness internal monologue than intentionally speaking to the viewers.

 

[69Blood69]

Bump

 

[69Blood69]

Bump

 

[HorrorHistory]

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