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Bc that would clearly be an outlier if he ever had a feat like that. Joe showcases struggle when wrestling/overpowering average or fit people and when moving bodies, he has never shown any consistency of LS on that level, plus you said yourself, it look like he only broke the wood part and not even the pin.
He demonstrates it; he broke Bronte's ankle with extreme casualty (this is noticeable in the sound, as the sound used is extremely similar to broken bones; compare it to the scene of Marienne breaking her arm).

Dominating ordinary people? That's what he does most; look at what he does to Clayton, Marienne, Becky, and Roald—he dominates them with ease. It's noticeable that Becky has experience with martial arts, and Clayton is bigger and denser than him.

Yes, in fact, I believe he didn't fracture the pin, but that would imply that his LS would reach levels higher than just Human Athletic. I even reached Class 5+ with this door feat, considering only the wood.

Dude. The bullet wasn't even near Joe, you can clearly see that he ducked down bc Peach moved around her gun, plus he was going nowhere as fast as that bullet in that scene.
At no point did I say he dodged the bullet? I know Peach wasn't even aiming at him, since she moved her arm to shoot elsewhere. What I'm saying is that Joe managed to duck BEFORE THE SHOT hit the cabinet, and you can clearly see that his movement only begins after Peach fires, so much so that I prove it in the calculation; I recommend you pay closer attention.

And yes, he's not comparable to the bullet; the calculation literally shows this with its results.
 
Joe leigt easily lifts body’s even when hungover or damabaged and if he struggled with those people which he has not then that just upscales them to his lifting
 
He demonstrates it; he broke Bronte's ankle with extreme casualty (this is noticeable in the sound, as the sound used is extremely similar to broken bones; compare it to the scene of Marienne breaking her arm).

Dominating ordinary people? That's what he does most; look at what he does to Clayton, Marienne, Becky, and Roald—he dominates them with ease. It's noticeable that Becky has experience with martial arts, and Clayton is bigger and denser than him.

Yes, in fact, I believe he didn't fracture the pin, but that would imply that his LS would reach levels higher than just Human Athletic. I even reached Class 5+ with this door feat, considering only the wood.


At no point did I say he dodged the bullet? I know Peach wasn't even aiming at him, since she moved her arm to shoot elsewhere. What I'm saying is that Joe managed to duck BEFORE THE SHOT hit the cabinet, and you can clearly see that his movement only begins after Peach fires, so much so that I prove it in the calculation; I recommend you pay closer attention.

And yes, he's not comparable to the bullet; the calculation literally shows this with its results.
Joe leigt easily lifts body’s even when hungover or damabaged and if he struggled with those people which he has not then that just upscales them to his lifting
Okay I admit that my point was kinda stupid, especially since it would be a feat to indeed keep up with him for some time. But what I was trying to say its that it would completely dumb if Joe would be Class 5, he hasn't shown any feat that impressive, in fact, he is far from it. Its a simple outlier, and the calc isn't even evaluated yet.

He never broke Bronte's ankle, he only damaged her tendons, which is why she never went to the hospital and could somewhat used her leg, albeit with pain. Plus, Joe confirmed her ankle was only sprained in 5x08 I think.

For the subsonic+ calc, the feat is also not even evaluated. And the thing is that Joe never even moved in correlation with the bullet, only with Peach rising her arm in the air. The bullet already reached the cabinet in your pictures, way after Joe even had time to duck.

So, Joe would still remain Athletic Human and Subsonic, there's probably not much that would change my mind on that.
 
Okay I admit that my point was kinda stupid, especially since it would be a feat to indeed keep up with him for some time. But what I was trying to say its that it would completely dumb if Joe would be Class 5, he hasn't shown any feat that impressive, in fact, he is far from it. Its a simple outlier, and the calc isn't even evaluated yet.
Again: Joe's doing it on Bronte's ankle.

The calculation only serves to show how high the achievement can reach; I'm not saying it should be treated as absolute truth, it's just an example.


He never broke Bronte's ankle, he only damaged her tendons, which is why she never went to the hospital and could somewhat used her leg, albeit with pain. Plus, Joe confirmed her ankle was only sprained in 5x08 I think.
You simply ignored my arguments about the sound of the sprain, which is extremely loud and noticeable, comparable to the sound already used in bone fractures, as I myself cited in Mariene's case.

Joe only gave a quick and plausible summary of her fracture, nothing very explicit (nor did it need to be), just enough to convince Bronte.

For the subsonic+ calc, the feat is also not even evaluated. And the thing is that Joe never even moved in correlation with the bullet, only with Peach rising her arm in the air. The bullet already reached the cabinet in your pictures, way after Joe even had time to duck.

So, Joe would still remain Athletic Human and Subsonic, there's probably not much that would change my mind on that.
It seems you didn't even pay attention to what I said. The images I sent clearly show the gunshot, and Joe was still standing. After the gunshot subsided and before the bullet hit the cabinet, Joe ducked. What more did you need to see the obvious? Joe clearly ducked in the time interval between the shot and the moment the cabinet was hit.
 
Again: Joe's doing it on Bronte's ankle.
Snapping an ankle is something that is possible to do like neck breaking, not superhuman.
The calculation only serves to show how high the achievement can reach; I'm not saying it should be treated as absolute truth, it's just an example.
Not really but sure.
You simply ignored my arguments about the sound of the sprain, which is extremely loud and noticeable, comparable to the sound already used in bone fractures, as I myself cited in Mariene's case.

Joe only gave a quick and plausible summary of her fracture, nothing very explicit (nor did it need to be), just enough to convince Bronte.
I didn't ignore it. Just that Bronte never really went to the hospital to treat her injured ankle, and she was able to walk with a limp, which adds more reliability to Joe's summary.
It seems you didn't even pay attention to what I said. The images I sent clearly show the gunshot, and Joe was still standing. After the gunshot subsided and before the bullet hit the cabinet, Joe ducked. What more did you need to see the obvious? Joe clearly ducked in the time interval between the shot and the moment the cabinet was hit.
He ducked at Peach rising her gun in the air. In the images you sent, we could only see a muzzle flash, not the bullet. And It already hit the cabinet. Plus, the calc wasn't evaluated like I said, unless a calc member accepts it, than its not useable.
 
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