Pernida vs Saitama (9-4-1)

[MrTayman616]

saitama can win if pernida gives him time to allow the gap become massive to the point of pulverisation but pernida in character wouldn't. Hence it isn't a stomp.

This is less than millisecond levels for Saitama.

 

[Specterxxxx]

You're the one taking it completely face value.

Everything there doesn't mean ABSOLUTELY everything. your example being comparing right hand to left hand like what?

How can you win?" Only way to win is if the enemy chooses to not fight at first" in a sba match where they realize it's a fight.

What i mean is if pernida doesn't try to take him down at first saitama would win that's a win con. A stomp match prevents any win con even if the character allows the other guy to attack with any of his abilities. This doesn't apply. You are also agree saitama can win so why are we arguing this?

 

[Johner2133451]

Here comes 10 pages of f***.

Nice you predicted it

 

[Specterxxxx]

This is less than millisecond levels for Saitama

Can you prove it would take milliseconds for the saitama to become powerful enough to pulverise and can you prove that saitama AD would kick him before pernida attacks him first with attack that is basically a sneak if saiatama doesn't understand it.

 

[MrTayman616]

What i mean is if pernida doesn't try to take him down at first saitama would win that's a win con. A stomp match prevents any win con even if the character allows the other guy to attack with any of his abilities. This doesn't apply. You are also agree saitama can win so why are we arguing this?

Is there a single case where pernida lets the enemy attack first? because this logic of stomp doesn't make sense

 

[MrTayman616]

Can you prove it would take milliseconds for the saitama to become powerful enough to pulverise and can you prove that saitama AD would kick him before pernida attacks him first with attack that is basically a sneak if saiatama doesn't understand it.

Garou who has slower growth reached one shot and blitz level within 0.0013 second.

Saitama can see the nerves quite clearly.

 

[Specterxxxx]

Is there a single case where pernida lets the enemy attack first? because this logic of stomp doesn't make sense

Kenpachi. And no one is saying it is a stomp

 

[MrTayman616]

Kenpachi. And no one is saying it is a stomp

They exchanged attacks there, no? He took his arm but kenpachi hit his head.

 

[Catbowtie]

saitama can win if pernida gives him time to allow the gap become massive to the point of pulverisation but pernida in character wouldn't. Hence it isn't a stomp.

…something that will never happen since we’ve been over the fact that a 100x initial gap isn’t enough to liquify. Also no, that doesn’t make it not a Stomp.

If Character A instantly loses to an ability Character B has, but Character B either will not use it (whether in-character reasons or otherwise) or Character A can circumvent it permanently (I.e, do an action that negates the advantage entirely), that makes it a Stomp in Character A’s favor.

Again, Stomp matches is when one side has no chance to win. You basically proved yourself that Pernida stomps.

 

[Specterxxxx]

Garou who has slower growth reached one shot and blitz level within 0.0013 second.

Saitama can see the nerves quite clearly

Not pulverization level tho so irrelevant.

Just because he can see the nerves doesn't mean he would understand what it is or even try to dodge it without prior knowledge, Mayuri an extraordinary genius had to with his ability twice to guess what it is. Saitama wouldn't dodge or figure it out.

 

[Specterxxxx]

They exchanged attacks there, no? He took his arm but kenpachi hit his

Kenpachi attacked him first which is the point, both times.

 

[MrTayman616]

Not pulverization level tho so irrelevant.

Just because he can see the nerves doesn't mean he would understand what it is or even try to dodge it without prior knowledge, Mayuri an extraordinary genius had to with his ability twice to guess what it is. Saitama wouldn't dodge or figure it out.

There is no such thing as "not pulverization level". It has no value in the site.

It doesn't take a genius to dodge when they see something that comes from the enemy. You expect the nerve attack to instantly kill Saitama, which wouldn't happen. He's internally more than durable enough.

Kenpachi attacked him first which is the point, both times.

Exchange of attacks, he just didn't move there but still used his ability.

 

[Johner2133451]

Ok one hour has passed so grace ended. If you guys wanna still argue, sure but it's useless pretty sure

 

[Specterxxxx]

…something that will never happen since we’ve been over the fact that a 100x initial gap isn’t enough to liquify. Also no, that doesn’t make it not a Stomp.

If Character A instantly loses to an ability Character B has, but Character B either will not use it (whether in-character reasons or otherwise) or Character A can circumvent it permanently (I.e, do an action that negates the advantage entirely), that makes it a Stomp in Character A’s favor.

Again, Stomp matches is when one side has no chance to win. You basically proved yourself that Pernida stomps.

This is like saying the uryu vs saitama was a stomp.( Looking back it was)

Also this a quote from the stomp thread under decisive/ Non Stomp match

• Both characters have several methods of winning. However, one character can reliably use/activate their winning move(s) first.
• One character has more ways to win than the other, but the other character wins more times than not due to matchup specifics that allow/cause them to use their winning move(s) immediately.
• Both characters are otherwise evenly matched in terms of statistics and abilities, but one has regeneration that the other can possibly, but not easily, surmount.
• One character having a level of regeneration that prevents them from being killed, but the other has an ability that would allow them to win despite the former's level of regeneration, such as mind manipulation, soul manipulation, etc...

Based on some of this outlines this match isn't a stomp.

 

[Specterxxxx]

There is no such thing as "not pulverization level". It has no value in the site.

It doesn't take a genius to dodge when they see something that comes from the enemy. You expect the nerve attack to instantly kill Saitama, which wouldn't happen. He's internally more than durable enough

Doesn't matter, a one shot level isn't a pulverisation level,

You are starting an argument that has been countered before again, I won't address it.

Exchange of attacks, he just didn't move there but still used his ability.

No one said he didn't use his ability, he didn't attack first so yes pernida has shown to not attack first.

 

[MrTayman616]

You are starting an argument that has been countered before again, I won't address it.

I'm not. You know his growth doesn't stop there right?

He already reaches beyond blitz and one shot that fast. Not long before he's pulverized.

No one said he didn't use his ability, he didn't attack first so yes pernida has shown to not attack first.

It's literally exchange of attacks. He doesn't have to physically move to do it. Manga doesn't make it look like one attacked first either.

 

[Catbowtie]

• Both characters have several methods of winning. However, one character can reliably use/activate their winning move(s) first.
• One character has more ways to win than the other, but the other character wins more times than not due to matchup specifics that allow/cause them to use their winning move(s) immediately.
• Both characters are otherwise evenly matched in terms of statistics and abilities, but one has regeneration that the other can possibly, but not easily, surmount.
• One character having a level of regeneration that prevents them from being killed, but the other has an ability that would allow them to win despite the former's level of regeneration, such as mind manipulation, soul manipulation, etc...

Copy pasting the Stomp match page doesn’t do anything lol.

Tell me in your own words, when we’ve been over the fact that a 100x gap isn’t enough to liquify Pernida (Saitama needs to inflict that much damage to permanently kill Pernida. I’ve been saying this ad nauseam), how is Saitama supposed to win? At all?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

How y'all gonna argue this a stomp but not Uryu vs Saitama lmao

 

[Catbowtie]

How y'all gonna argue this a stomp but not Uryu vs Saitama lmao

We, One Punch Man supporters, don’t know anything about Uryu (general assumption. Correct me if I’m wrong). It’s your job as the Bleach supporter (I’m assuming) to determine whether or not Uryu had the chance to win.

 

[MrTayman616]

How y'all gonna argue this a stomp but not Uryu vs Saitama lmao

I don't argue that this is stomp. It isn't

I'm saying it would be based on his beliefs

 

[Specterxxxx]

I don't argue that this is stomp. It isn't

I'm saying it would be based on his beliefs

Then there is no need to continue this argument.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Saitama Vs Quincies 2-2. Saitama Vs Lille and Yhwach are left

 

[Mickey1940]

It's not something that you can use only when you are monsterized etc. It's willpower based + his internal durability still there.

except the only time we've seen this happen is to reverse monsterization, and even if it were applicable in other situations, Saitama has NEVER been in this situation to warrant needing that to begin with, so assuming he can just use it with no knowledge is purely speculative.

So does the monster cells. They are additional cells. Nothing is different.

Monster cells change your genetics and biology. Monsters aren't just humans in flesh suits bro

Yeah like he didn't destroy many buildings there or cause literal earthquakes. Saitama lives there but what he cares is "his" house.

The problem is that Saitama has to cause considerable damage in order to completely atomize Pernida, else Pernida regenerates and touches Saitama once and he dies

If he treats Pernida like any other monster then he's just gonna punch him and splatter him into blood and gore, except the gore will regenerate and then touch Saitama and Saitama dies

Saitama's casual punches fail to atomize most if not all of the enemies he's fought, as there's still visible chunks of flesh remaining after every fight he's been in. He can't afford to leave chunks of flesh here

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

That would be for the finale, I'm thinking of...

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Literally what stops gremmy from erasing Saitama frame 1. Reinhard Vs Gremmy exists

 

[Robo432343]

Gremmy vs Saitama gonna get closed so soon lol

 

[Johner2133451]

Literally what stops gremmy from erasing Saitama frame 1. Reinhard Vs Gremmy exists

Distance prob