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Pernida would literally come back to the battle field with shadow, this changes nothing.
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Pernida vs Saitama (9-4-1)
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This doesn't mean he would get vaporized lmao, at best his body would be shredded to pieces and that would make hundreds of pernida.
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Because you're the one who took my "
everything needs feat&statement" way too literal.
Limited because it affects the ones that isn't originally from the body. Not something like "Limited < Normal aka ot can't do anything"
Saitama's shockwaves vaporizes/pulverizes him completely.
No, it's not. Not that it matters as Saitama's scale higher.
Didn't say i do, said "kinda". Also What? then give every character in fiction resistance to internal durability equal to their durability lmao.
You make a claim, you're the one who has to prove it.
Also no, It would only scale to Kenpachi's internal durability, saying it can do against more is NLF.
This is NFL. (It worked with someone against 7-A internal durability, it would against 3-B internal durability as well) type of argument.
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So you expect me, to take a supposed counter to my argument not literal? What are we even talking about. You literally said that to counter what I said the only way to perceive it would be literal.
No limited as in they can't override the effect of monsterization completely and I didn't say they can't do anything. If no one has shown to fully be immune to the effects of monsterization then you can't prove the effects of compulsory a completely different ability would be resisted.
tomayto tomahto
you being purposely obtuse, this is a bleach mechanics thing, reiatsu makes all physical stats equal, such as durability and strength. If kenpachi's internal durability is being protected by his reiatsu then it would also scale to the rest of his body because his strength and durability come from his reiatsu not his physical body.
I have proven it, saying nuh uh isn't a debunk.
You don't know what NLF is, if this is what you are saying. Saying internal durability scales to his external is valid due to the mechanics of soul reaper power system.
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Except you have to prove kenpachi's inner durability is lower than his external for it to be deemed, NLF.
Also where is the proof that saitama's inner durability scale to his outer?
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It wasn't an argument or counter for the debate but to point out your misunderstanding because you took thr line too literally.
They control it as they desire. Aka why they have a "monster" and "human" form. They are the one who chooses to not give up on monsterification.
Wish that was true (my way of speaking is weird so :d)
...When?
What? You ain't even reading right. I said it about the attack. The attack worked for kenpachi so it will work for Saitama who has higher stats in internal durability (also kinda every stat) 100 times difference is accepted as massive.
Saying it worked on Kenpachi so it will eork for Saitama who has higher stats than him is NFL.(the capacity of the attack).
No. Even if it was equal, it would be NFL. Because Saitama's stats are simply higher.
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saitama never uses his serious moves (giant shockwaves) as his first move unless his opponent was either the size of a skyscraper or on his level
Pernida is none of these things
Saitama just punches Pernida, Pernida gets splattered, Pernida regenerates, lands nerves on Saitama, Saitama crumples, gg
or Pernida can shoot arrows, Saitama lets them hit him cuz they're thousands of times weaker than him, Pernida's nerves land on Saitama, Saitama crumples, gg
Saying "Saitama will atomize Pernida from 4km away" makes no sense cuz Saitama just doesn't do that in character
Pernida is none of these things
Saitama just punches Pernida, Pernida gets splattered, Pernida regenerates, lands nerves on Saitama, Saitama crumples, gg
or Pernida can shoot arrows, Saitama lets them hit him cuz they're thousands of times weaker than him, Pernida's nerves land on Saitama, Saitama crumples, gg
Saying "Saitama will atomize Pernida from 4km away" makes no sense cuz Saitama just doesn't do that in character
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Also I think grace has ended, look forward for the next one
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Saitama resists his ability via body control + internal resistance. (Also RE and etc.)
No one says that's what he'll do.
The question was "Is he fine with destroying a part of Z-city" and there were someone who said "This wouldn't do anything as he'd teleport back" mistaking it with BFR
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There is still an hour
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Uh I don't think the outcome gonna change but sure
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That would be for the finale, I'm thinking of...
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First of all, that's Parallel Timeline Saitama. This is Post-Balding Saitama, who doesn't have body control
Second of all, simply having "body control" on his profile and saying that he resists anything that f*cks with his body when he's only used it in an extremely specific way is a NLF. How does manipulating your subatomic particles stop you opponent adding nerves to your body and controlling you like a puppet
then what will he do
why would Saitama willingly destroy an entire city
No
stop
the discussion is still happening
don't close this
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With one hour left yeah
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that's not the point
the discussion is still happening
closing this would just be damn rude. You lose nothing by keeping this open a bit longer.
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I never asked staffs to close my versus matches, usually others do that
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No. Saitama does has it, not just Parallel Timeline Saitama. On a cellular level, entire body. He just resists the ability via internal durability and body control
Why are you acting like he never destroyed buildings, caused earthquakes in the entire city etc etc?
Also why would it be equal to destroying a city? The distance is like 4km lmao. He's fine with it as long as it's not his house.
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I am talking about the "everything needs feats" comment, I wasn't taking any literally before according to you before so why would I be misunderstanding anything before that? The line wasn't needed and I won't address this anymore.
You are allowed to disagree, but i believe more than enough people agree with me on saitama loosing this so I won't bother addressing the rest. Peace brother.
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What's the next match up? Barro vs saitama 6A versions?
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That's what i'm talking about as well. You just took this "everything needs feats" too literally, saying:
Maybe because some believed Saitama had no wincon for six pages lmao.
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Isn't barro's layered? I don't think saitama can resist it easily. Saitama can also tag him.
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Barro dont have layered spatial manip
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Then you shouldn't have brought it in response of what i said if I wasn't supposed to take it seriously my guy.
He still doesn't but sure.
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You right, but Saitama can't resist it but sure.
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If you could read better, you'd realize how serious someone would take that comment was.
Literally pulverizes him casually lmao.
You're saying it's stomp?
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You don't address something's argument in an official debate and expect the person not to think its a counter lol.
Nope, pernida wouldn't stomp but Saitama can't kill him for good.
When did saitama pulverise someone to dust?
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Wait Saitama already have resists to spatial manipulation currently. So yeah, Barro cant damage him
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This doesn't mean he resist it bruh, just set the match in the future let's not derail here, saitama has npi so he should touch barro.
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except that's not how Pernida's ability works
Pernida isn't transmuting Saitama's cells. Shooting nerves into his body puppets their muscles against them, causing Pernida to be able to destroy his opponent with their own strength. Resisting transformation and biological manipulation is an entirely different concept
cuz he has to pay for it
After joining the hero association, saitama generally doesn't cause that much mass destruction cuz he'd be responsible for the damages
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When someone says "hello". You'll think that's an argument because it's in an debate thread? It's obvious what's an argument and what isn't.
Lmao, how is it not stomp if one side doesn't have a wincon?
They are not "resisting transformation".
They are changing it on a cellular level because they have full control over their body. Cellular level body control(Higher level than nerves). Also his internal durability.
That's cap + There is nothing to pay in Z-city.
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Thats not what you did, you know that.
Let me elaborate for you, the only way saitama wins is if pernida does literally nothing to him at first but as long that isn't the case pernida wins and it isn't a stomp.
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No? I just said that basically, everything needs statements and feats. You then say "not everything, should left hand do what right hand does to scale to it". You're the one who took this "everything needs statements and feats" too face value.
You just showed how half of the stomp matches wouldn't be a stomp match. Though happy to hear how you think
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You said everything needs feats at first don't backtrack now, you never said anything about statements. Again there is no way to take it except at face value lol, I won't respond to this further.
Go read stomp matches and come back if not half of official matches would be stomp matches lol.You just showed how half of the stomp matches wouldn't be a stomp match. Though happy to hear how you think
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even if that were true:
1. You can't assume Saitama is even aware of this ability, as he's never been monsterized, nor has ever needed to do any of this before
2. Even if this were true, Pernida doesn't change Saitama's cells. He's adding nerves. Saitama can't just remove them cuz he can manipulate his own cells, he needs to explicitly remove the nerves, and by the time he realizes that he's dead
Z City is free to live in
It's not free if you blow up city blocks and shit
Plus, Saitama still lives there lmao
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What makes it a Stomp match is if Saitama can’t do ANYTHING to win. If he can’t punch Pernida to death or BFR him, Saitama legit cannot win.
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Wait a min what's the premise on this? Is this saitama starting move? Cause even if this is a win con. Pernida would attack faster than saitama due to saitama not having prior knowledge he wouldn't dodge pernida attacks or even try to resist it with a limited resistance to a different ability mind you.
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You're the one taking it completely face value.
Everything there doesn't mean ABSOLUTELY everything. your example being comparing right hand to left hand like what?
"How can you win?" Only way to win is if the enemy chooses to not fight at first" in a sba match where they realize it's a fight.
It's not something that you can use only when you are monsterized etc. It's willpower based + his internal durability still there.
So does the monster cells. They are additional cells. Nothing is different.
Yeah like he didn't destroy many buildings there or cause literal earthquakes. Saitama lives there but what he cares is "his" house.
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saitama can win if pernida gives him time to allow the gap become massive to the point of pulverisation but pernida in character wouldn't. Hence it isn't a stomp.
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