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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

You literally referenced him. I just returned the favor by referencing someone that you seem to think is a reliable translator.
I sent translation
You sent his opinion
Both are not same thing
Did that interpretation come from a translation? If not, then that’s not relevant in the first place bratuha.

Is Jujutsu supernatural?
If you are highly dependent on others interpretation to support your glazing I'm not interested in continuing any further.

One thing I realised arguing with Yuta glazers is it's pointless they won't read what's written in front of them.
 
No No No, because the one who made the statement on Yuta's position in the hierarchy is the NARRATOR, who knows all!
HE REGAINED HIS SPECIAL GRADE STATUS ON HIS OWN, NO RIKA!
ITS STATED AGAIN AND AGAIN!
GIVE UP DUEDATE8898 YUTA IS SUPERIOR WITH JUST CE!
The narrator is clearly talking about Copy and Rika, because Yuta's reinforcement is not above other Top Tiers, since Uro is able to match him and Ryu straight up overpowered him in hand-to-hand combat, his control over his CE is still sloppy since even a CG Yuji is able to see that the problem wasn't predicting Yuta's move but yes having to be careful with his attacks due to the amount of CE Yuta uses on his attacks, his RCT is also not that great at time since it seems that it burns his CE reserves very quickly, so it only leaves Copy and Rika, which are unusual abilities when it comes to other sorcerers.

And the other two links, one is a promotional for the JJK 0 movie so of course they are going to hype Yuta up, and the other is from the same place that put Hakari > Yuta, but most importantly neither of this two statement came from Gege so they are not valid.

Seriously the only fan base that is worse than Gojo's or Sukuna's, is the Yuta fan base.
 
Since we where on the topic of Yuki earlier I gotta talk about her punch feat cause it genuinely drives me nuts.

Yuki with a Bom Ba Ye amped punch goes straight through Kenny's arms and sends him flying through Tengen's barrier. After she gets blasted by Kenjaku's domain Choso states that she needs to heal to recover Bom Ba Ye's output, which she does. She then proceeds to punch Kenny multiple times straight in the face and does next to no damage even tho her output should have recovered.

I have three ideas for what may have happened here.
  1. Kenny wasn't reinforcing himself fully during the first punch. Unless you are the top 2 or Yuta you are not gonna be continually reinforcing your body to the maximum and instead have to know where an attack will hit to reinforce that part of your body.
  2. Revealing ones hand. Yuki reveals that her technique is mass which may have temporarily boosted it's output.
  3. Yuki wasn't able to fully recover her output/expended too much CE.
If it's either of the first two then BBY's AP might be significantly lower on average than we thought and Yuki might drop significantly in the rankings. If it's three then that's easier to swallow but it also means that anyone who can dish back significant damage to Yuki (which is most top tiers) is gonna be dropping her output badly even if she can heal from the damage. This is especially gonna be a problem against high CE reserve or high stamina fighters (cough Yuji and Yuta cough) who could simply outlast her.

Personally I think it's a combination of 2 and 3. I find it unlikely that Kenny wouldn't be reinforcing himself when be was not only very weary and on guard but also managed to react to her and attempted to block her punch.
 
Since we where on the topic of Yuki earlier I gotta talk about her punch feat cause it genuinely drives me nuts.

Yuki with a Bom Ba Ye amped punch goes straight through Kenny's arms and sends him flying through Tengen's barrier. After she gets blasted by Kenjaku's domain Choso states that she needs to heal to recover Bom Ba Ye's output, which she does. She then proceeds to punch Kenny multiple times straight in the face and does next to no damage even tho her output should have recovered.

I have three ideas for what may have happened here.
  1. Kenny wasn't reinforcing himself fully during the first punch. Unless you are the top 2 or Yuta you are not gonna be continually reinforcing your body to the maximum and instead have to know where an attack will hit to reinforce that part of your body.
  2. Revealing ones hand. Yuki reveals that her technique is mass which may have temporarily boosted it's output.
  3. Yuki wasn't able to fully recover her output/expended too much CE.
If it's either of the first two then BBY's AP might be significantly lower on average than we thought and Yuki might drop significantly in the rankings. If it's three then that's easier to swallow but it also means that anyone who can dish back significant damage to Yuki (which is most top tiers) is gonna be dropping her output badly even if she can heal from the damage. This is especially gonna be a problem against high CE reserve or high stamina fighters (cough Yuji and Yuta cough) who could simply outlast her.

Personally I think it's a combination of 2 and 3. I find it unlikely that Kenny wouldn't be reinforcing himself when be was not only very weary and on guard but also managed to react to her and attempted to block her punch.
I think it’s just bad writing tbh
 
Since we where on the topic of Yuki earlier I gotta talk about her punch feat cause it genuinely drives me nuts.

Yuki with a Bom Ba Ye amped punch goes straight through Kenny's arms and sends him flying through Tengen's barrier. After she gets blasted by Kenjaku's domain Choso states that she needs to heal to recover Bom Ba Ye's output, which she does. She then proceeds to punch Kenny multiple times straight in the face and does next to no damage even tho her output should have recovered.

I have three ideas for what may have happened here.
  1. Kenny wasn't reinforcing himself fully during the first punch. Unless you are the top 2 or Yuta you are not gonna be continually reinforcing your body to the maximum and instead have to know where an attack will hit to reinforce that part of your body.
  2. Revealing ones hand. Yuki reveals that her technique is mass which may have temporarily boosted it's output.
  3. Yuki wasn't able to fully recover her output/expended too much CE.
If it's either of the first two then BBY's AP might be significantly lower on average than we thought and Yuki might drop significantly in the rankings. If it's three then that's easier to swallow but it also means that anyone who can dish back significant damage to Yuki (which is most top tiers) is gonna be dropping her output badly even if she can heal from the damage. This is especially gonna be a problem against high CE reserve or high stamina fighters (cough Yuji and Yuta cough) who could simply outlast her.

Personally I think it's a combination of 2 and 3. I find it unlikely that Kenny wouldn't be reinforcing himself when be was not only very weary and on guard but also managed to react to her and attempted to block her punch.
Yuki wasn't healed completely second time when Kenny tanked the attacks.
 
Yuki wasn't healed completely second time when Kenny tanked the attacks.
She looks healed to me dawg
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Even if you wanna say she still has internal damage left over, Yuta and Yuji where constantly healing through lethal attacks from Sukuna and kept fighting with basically no drop in performance
 
She looks healed to me dawg
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Even if you wanna say she still has internal damage left over, Yuta and Yuji where constantly healing through lethal attacks from Sukuna and kept fighting with basically no drop in performance
Look at her face you still see the damage. Also you want me to send the scan where Yuta and Yuji takes their time to heal the damage? They didn't healed the damage on this level instantly.

You ignored the fact She punched through Tengen barrier. Which didn't happen second time clearly indicates she wasn't outputting same level strength second time. Kenjaku didn't even said anything about him not reinforcing previously. He was literally on alart for her unknown CT.
 
Look at her face you still see the damage.
Those are scratches, Kenny has more damage on him than that
Also you want me to send the scan where Yuta and Yuji takes their time to heal the damage? They didn't healed the damage on this level instantly.
Neither did Yuki, she got an opening to heal thanks to Choso. Yuji got his whole torso cleaved open in the domain fight and two panels later he is back on soul punching
You ignored the fact She punched through Tengen barrier. Which didn't happen second time clearly indicates she wasn't outputting same level strength second time.
Dawg I know the attacks weren't as strong the second time, that's obvious from the effect they have on Kenny. I'm trying to give explanations as to why that drop in output happened
Kenjaku didn't even said anything about him not reinforcing previously. He was literally on alart for her unknown CT.
I know, I even said that I don't think option one is likely
 
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The narrator is clearly talking about Copy and Rika,
Kappa. The statements say he regained SG on his own and when he did he was 2nd to Gojo and at that point he had no techniques copied.
because Yuta's reinforcement is not above other Top Tiers, since Uro is able to match him
This just never happened.
and Ryu straight up overpowered him in hand-to-hand combat,
Highest output in history kinda does that to ya
Also both Uro and Ryu are Ancient sorcerers, not part of this discussion.
his control over his CE is still sloppy since even a CG Yuji is able to see that the problem wasn't predicting Yuta's move but yes having to be careful with his attacks due to the amount of CE Yuta uses on his attacks,
So you support that his CE reinforcement is deadly enough for him to be second only to Gojo in the Modern Era?
his RCT is also not that great at time since it seems that it burns his CE reserves very quickly, so it only leaves Copy and Rika, which are unusual abilities when it comes to other sorcerers.
Jujutsu as a whole is unusual. Its available to like 1% of people in Japan and even less around the world.
If Copy was empty till CG, Rika wasn't part of the reason he became a SG again and all those other flaws you mentioned are there yet he's still second only to Gojo, what does that tell us?
And the other two links, one is a promotional for the JJK 0 movie so of course they are going to hype Yuta up,
Some cope
and the other is from the same place that put Hakari > Yuta, but most importantly neither of this two statement came from Gege so they are not valid.
Yeah it repeats what Yuta says in the manga. That statement is denied in the same panel and further denied by the narrator stating the only one in the Modern Era above Yuta is Gojo
Seriously the only fan base that is worse than Gojo's or Sukuna's, is the Yuta fan base.
True!
 
Since we where on the topic of Yuki earlier I gotta talk about her punch feat cause it genuinely drives me nuts.

Yuki with a Bom Ba Ye amped punch goes straight through Kenny's arms and sends him flying through Tengen's barrier. After she gets blasted by Kenjaku's domain Choso states that she needs to heal to recover Bom Ba Ye's output, which she does. She then proceeds to punch Kenny multiple times straight in the face and does next to no damage even tho her output should have recovered.

I have three ideas for what may have happened here.
  1. Kenny wasn't reinforcing himself fully during the first punch. Unless you are the top 2 or Yuta you are not gonna be continually reinforcing your body to the maximum and instead have to know where an attack will hit to reinforce that part of your body.
  2. Revealing ones hand. Yuki reveals that her technique is mass which may have temporarily boosted it's output.
  3. Yuki wasn't able to fully recover her output/expended too much CE.
If it's either of the first two then BBY's AP might be significantly lower on average than we thought and Yuki might drop significantly in the rankings. If it's three then that's easier to swallow but it also means that anyone who can dish back significant damage to Yuki (which is most top tiers) is gonna be dropping her output badly even if she can heal from the damage. This is especially gonna be a problem against high CE reserve or high stamina fighters (cough Yuji and Yuta cough) who could simply outlast her.

Personally I think it's a combination of 2 and 3. I find it unlikely that Kenny wouldn't be reinforcing himself when be was not only very weary and on guard but also managed to react to her and attempted to block her punch.
She's so arse man💔
 
She's so arse man💔
Imagine getting hit once in the fight and your output instantly dropping to the abyss, couldn't be my glorious king Yuji taking lethal attack after lethal attack and still lasting the longest out of anyone in the Showdown (Yuki is still top 6 but some people here need to hop off her metaphorical dick)
 
It is more likely that Yuki never fully recovered her output and that Kenjaki wasn't reinforcing properly when he blocked her first attack.

You Can gauge danger in part off of sensing the amount of CE behind a strike, but Yuki adding virtual mass would make gauging strength harder as you don't know how much Mass she's added until the first strike. That and she was essentially fatally wounded from the domain expansion Kenjaku hit her with. Her output likely had to drop even disregarding the damage she took.
 
It is more likely that Yuki never fully recovered her output and that Kenjaki wasn't reinforcing properly when he blocked her first attack.

You Can gauge danger in part off of sensing the amount of CE behind a strike, but Yuki adding virtual mass would make gauging strength harder as you don't know how much Mass she's added until the first strike. That and she was essentially fatally wounded from the domain expansion Kenjaku hit her with. Her output likely had to drop even disregarding the damage she took.
Agreed but you know who did take repeated lethal attacks and kept fighting till the end?
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Those are scratches, Kenny has more damage on him than that
I would say he healed fully seeing him even after taking a Direct hit from her Initial strike losing both hands and still able to instantly regenerate in a single page which is something Sukuna, Gojo, JP Hakari and Awakened Yuji shown to do.

Basically RCT upscale for Kenny.
All I see is Kenjaku upscale
°^
Neither did Yuki, she got an opening to heal thanks to Choso. Yuji got his whole torso cleaved open in the domain fight and two panels later he is back on soul punching
Bruh be real a single sec Choso brought = Whole conversation Sukuna was having with Yuta and Yuji?😭
Dawg I know the attacks weren't as strong the second time, that's obvious from the effect they have on Kenny. I'm trying to give explanations as to why that drop in output happened
I know, I even said that I don't think option one is likely
Kk

Either way Yuta's stuff is about ability nothing about his strength. Will ask some TL helpers to check the character poll scan again. It uses same Kanji as in Manga.
 
I would say he healed fully seeing him even after taking a Direct hit from her Initial strike losing both hands and still able to instantly regenerate in a single page which is something Sukuna, Gojo, JP Hakari and Awakened Yuji shown to do.

Basically RCT upscale for Kenny.
My point was more so that if we are scaling their outputs based on the damage they sustained and the amount of times they've used RCT then Kenny's would actually be in a worse condition
Bruh be real a single sec Choso brought = Whole conversation Sukuna was having with Yuta and Yuji?😭
I'm talking about this moment
 
My point was more so that if we are scaling their outputs based on the damage they sustained and the amount of times they've used RCT then Kenny's would actually be in a worse condition
Then I think we both misunderstood out stance
I was saying since time she took was less because she was in a hurry she didn't fully healed her wounds and thus her output was low. If she was fully healed then she would be able to do same thing she initially did. But Kenny may have better RCT and he is 💯 all the time. That's what I was trying to say.
I'm talking about this moment

Yuji is just him like usual (I already said I have Yuji > Yuk)
But the thing is unlike others Yuji doesn't get stopped by Pain alone. Remember he is the same Dude who was painting his liver pierced without any RCT still was able to land a hit string enough to even slightly damage Fully Blood Hardened by if Choso with an Injured arm.
 
Yuji is just him like usual (I already said I have Yuji > Yuk)
But the thing is unlike others Yuji doesn't get stopped by Pain alone. Remember he is the same Dude who was painting his liver pierced without any RCT still was able to land a hit string enough to even slightly damage Fully Blood Hardened by if Choso with an Injured arm.
I just realised I killed grammar here but whatever
 
"According to all known laws of Jujutsu there is no way for Yuji to fight on equal footing against Sukuna. Unlike other Jujutsu Sorcerers he doesn't posses enough innate talent...

Itadori Yuji of course fights anyways. Because Yuji does not care what the gods of Jujutsu think is impossible."
GLa5214WgAEWDSx
 
 
Fun question for y'all. How do y'all think the Sukuna raid would've gone if Ryu wasn't merked by Sukuna, went on to join the heroes side and had trained with them to help fight Sukuna?
 
Same thing. He'd probably even single him out. Though if he pops domain, Sukuna might be scared, but he'd end up wcs him.
I feel like it depends on when he shows up and how they decide to strategize around him. If he shows up before Yuta's domain, he gets killed because of either WCS or a direct cleave which would one shot him like it did before. If he shows up after I think he has decent chances of surviving if he plays his cards right and doesn't rush up like a moron like he did in their actual encounter. He has higher output and defenses than Yuta/Yuji that would grow from the month of training as well as getting RCT. Leave the fighting to the other guys like Yuji and Maki then just GB from far away. But given how he fights he either survives along with everyone else or Sukuna one shots him with one of his slashes because he'd know the threat he poses (if he didn't know from Ryu pulling up, assuming he just runs away after that, he'd get the info from Kenjaku)
 
I may be wrong, but I feel like if Ryu watches the fight between Sukuna and Gojo, he'll likely be a bit cautious after realizing how genuinely insane Sukuna truly is and not do a Kashimo, although I'm likely wrong.
I think it's less he does a Kashimo and more eventually Sukuna is going to try and deal with him because unlike Choso who kept taking pot shots, Ryu would actually do damage so eventually he'd have to get into an actual fight which may go wrong for him depending on how weak Sukuna is and whether or not he wants to kill him quickly.
 
Kappa. The statements say he regained SG on his own and when he did he was 2nd to Gojo and at that point he had no techniques copied.

This just never happened.

Highest output in history kinda does that to ya
Also both Uro and Ryu are Ancient sorcerers, not part of this discussion.

So you support that his CE reinforcement is deadly enough for him to be second only to Gojo in the Modern Era?

Jujutsu as a whole is unusual. Its available to like 1% of people in Japan and even less around the world.
If Copy was empty till CG, Rika wasn't part of the reason he became a SG again and all those other flaws you mentioned are there yet he's still second only to Gojo, what does that tell us?

Some cope

Yeah it repeats what Yuta says in the manga. That statement is denied in the same panel and further denied by the narrator stating the only one in the Modern Era above Yuta is Gojo

True!
You keep saying cope but you’re are the one who takes things out of context to try to make your argument valid.

Yuta literally has Rika which is the reason he can overthrow a nation due to the fact that conventional weaponry wouldn't work on her, since the OG Rika literally left a Shikigami version of herself to him.

When the narrator says in unusual abilities he is talking about sorcerers, not normal humans, and the only things unusual about Yuta is Copy and Rika.

Yuta literally needed to use Cursed Speech and Rika to attack Uro, and even then Uro quickly recovered and blocked one of Yuta's attack, so she is still on the same level as him in physical stats otherwise she would lost then and there.

The Yuji Yuta fought was holding back and still recovering from his wounds in Shibuya, and yet he was still able to read Yuta's moves, and Yuta being able to damage him is not that impressive since that Yuji is way weaker than the Yuji that fought Sukuna alongside Maki and later on fought in the Shinjuku Showdown.

And yet you're trying to use promotional works to try to justify your cope, since the narrator does make it clear that it was in only in unusual abilities and the only thing Yuta has that is unusual to other sorcerers is Rika.

You know what I'm going to do the same thing Abaddon, and stop arguing with you, because honestly it feels like I'm losing brain cells everytime I see your arguments to glaze Yuta.
 
You keep saying cope but you’re are the one who takes things out of context to try to make your argument valid.

Yuta literally has Rika which is the reason he can overthrow a nation due to the fact that conventional weaponry wouldn't work on her, since the OG Rika literally left a Shikigami version of herself to him.

When the narrator says in unusual abilities he is talking about sorcerers, not normal humans, and the only things unusual about Yuta is Copy and Rika.

Yuta literally needed to use Cursed Speech and Rika to attack Uro, and even then Uro quickly recovered and blocked one of Yuta's attack, so she is still on the same level as him in physical stats otherwise she would lost then and there.

The Yuji Yuta fought was holding back and still recovering from his wounds in Shibuya, and yet he was still able to read Yuta's moves, and Yuta being able to damage him is not that impressive since that Yuji is way weaker than the Yuji that fought Sukuna alongside Maki and later on fought in the Shinjuku Showdown.

And yet you're trying to use promotional works to try to justify your cope, since the narrator does make it clear that it was in only in unusual abilities and the only thing Yuta has that is unusual to other sorcerers is Rika.

You know what I'm going to do the same thing Abaddon, and stop arguing with you, because honestly it feels like I'm losing brain cells everytime I see your arguments to glaze Yuta.
Not to mention Promotional work Translation also seems to talking about abilities. Seems like a Mistranslation. Need to check with wiki Translators for that.

Yuta glazers are using every copium in the world to cope at this point.
 
I may be wrong, but I feel like if Ryu watches the fight between Sukuna and Gojo, he'll likely be a bit cautious after realizing how genuinely insane Sukuna truly is and not do a Kashimo, although I'm likely wrong.
I can see Sukuna trying to hit BF earlier in the fight than Maki to get out of this scenario. Or he might start blitzing others instead of playing their game. We should remember that Sukuna was faster than Yuji, but later he reduced his speed to match Yuta and Rika. Meanwhile, Yuji is comparable to Yuta and Rika, as seen in the fight. So if he really wanted to, I think he could have blitzed Yuta and Rika before his Cursed Energy got nerfed inside Yuta’s Domain — but he didn’t. That’s what I think.

I mean, we also have the statement from Higuruma that if Yuta had already been there, he would have killed him.
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