Binah vs Grim Heart

[Steve1775]

This lowkey maybe a stomp but I just wanted to test the waters.
This is Binah in her Arbiter key without optional equipment.
Grim Heart has her standard equipment.

Yet as you can see, I'm still at the peak, looking down upon you lot while you writhe like insects. I eagerly wait for the moment you fall into despair after realizing that this cycle of pain will never end. I want to see you kneel before the might of destiny, resigning yourself to fate. I eagerly wait for the moment you fall into despair after realizing that this cycle of pain will never end. I want to see you kneel before the might of destiny, resigning yourself to fate. Go on, slowly; despair and succumb to your fate. Try to resist to the very end, and ultimately break yourself. As the last bits of your resistance melt away. We shall be the subterranean water that quietly flows underneath the earth. - Binah - 0


Off with your head - Grim Heart - 0

 

[Steve1775]

Bump

 

[Arkansalter2]

This is more of a mismatch. Either Grim Heart oneshots or Binah deals White/Black/Pale damage to straight up destroy Grim.

 

[Steve1775]

This is more of a mismatch. Either Grim Heart oneshots or Binah deals White/Black/Pale damage to straight up destroy Grim.

The main problem is that Grim Heart's power would shot down that chance as it straight up nullifies anything that Grim heart considers rude, which basically amounts to everything except her Shufflins

 

[AThe1412]

The main problem is that Grim Heart's power would shot down that chance as it straight up nullifies anything that Grim heart considers rude, which basically amounts to everything except her Shufflins

Binah has resistance to power null. Can Grim Heart nullify 4-D conceptual hax?

 

[Steve1775]

Binah has resistance to power null. Can Grim Heart nullify 4-D conceptual hax?

Sorry for not responding, but where does resistance come from?

 

[AThe1412]

"Power Nullification, Power Modification, Resistance Negation, Statistics Reduction (As represented by her "Binah" passive, Binah's abilities are completely locked in to her very being on a level that not even The Library, an infinite universe with its own timescale, can change, despite Binah's entire body being composed of its Light. Binah retained far more strength than everyone else converted to a Librarian due to this, as the default no keypage Librarian is a weak combatant more on the level of a Grade 9 Fixer even for those who were elite combatants prior such as Roland and Gebura. Her body as a Sephirah was made poorly on purpose to keep her under control and to punish her, yet her singularity abilities remained and she ultimately wields power comparable to Sephirah Gebura)"

She has these in all of her keys.

 

[Steve1775]

"Power Nullification, Power Modification, Resistance Negation, Statistics Reduction (As represented by her "Binah" passive, Binah's abilities are completely locked in to her very being on a level that not even The Library, an infinite universe with its own timescale, can change, despite Binah's entire body being composed of its Light. Binah retained far more strength than everyone else converted to a Librarian due to this, as the default no keypage Librarian is a weak combatant more on the level of a Grade 9 Fixer even for those who were elite combatants prior such as Roland and Gebura. Her body as a Sephirah was made poorly on purpose to keep her under control and to punish her, yet her singularity abilities remained and she ultimately wields power comparable to Sephirah Gebura)"

She has these in all of her keys.

Ah then it should work I think. Grim Heart can even trump someone like Keek who has this as well.

 

[AThe1412]

Ah then it should work I think. Grim Heart can even trump someone like Keek who has this as well.

The Library's power null is 4-D.

 

[OnlyonethatEXIST]

the damage types is just not fair bro, that girl aint defeating any zayin lvl abnormality fr fr. layered hax oneshot her

 

[Steve1775]

The Library's power null is 4-D.

Wait how is the library power null 4-D did I miss something for ruina?

 

[AThe1412]

Wait how is the library power null 4-D did I miss something for ruina?

It's a 4-D space and is powered by the Light which is a 4-D power source.

 

[GoldenScorpions]

Out of curiosity, you said Binah's abilities cannot be changed or altered, but does that apply to just the "core" of Binah's powers (as in being locked to her being), or does it extend to the application of those powers in combat?
I'm asking because Grim Heart's nullification aura affects things coming for her, not magic itself. As in, whether it's magic or not, the attack or effect will be cancelled, deviated, halted or dissipated. She can't prevent someone from using their powers, only those powers from reaching her.

 

[Steve1775]

It's a 4-D space and is powered by the Light which is a 4-D power source.

Sorry but what are your thoughts above^

 

[Steve1775]

Out of curiosity, you said Binah's abilities cannot be changed or altered, but does that apply to just the "core" of Binah's powers (as in being locked to her being), or does it extend to the application of those powers in combat?
I'm asking because Grim Heart's nullification aura affects things coming for her, not magic itself. As in, whether it's magic or not, the attack or effect will be cancelled, deviated, halted or dissipated. She can't prevent someone from using their powers, only those powers from reaching her.

Also I wanted to ask would Grim Heart's level of potency of her powers do something against 4D beings given it worked against Keek's cyber world which also was stated to be similar to Nemurin's dream world

 

[GoldenScorpions]

Also I wanted to ask would Grim Heart's level of potency of her powers do something against 4D beings given it worked against Keek's cyber world which also was stated to be similar to Nemurin's dream world

I'm doubtful if MGRP has much to do with 4D space and above. I don't think Keek can classify as a 4D being, as her Cyber World remains a Universe-level 3D space. Nemurin is the only character who is above to Keek, since the Dream World connects multiple universes from present, past and future. However, Grim Heart and Nemurin never interact, so it's unknown how GH would fare against that.

 

[Steve1775]

I'm doubtful if MGRP has much to do with 4D space and above. I don't think Keek can classify as a 4D being, as her Cyber World remains a Universe-level 3D space. Nemurin is the only character who is above to Keek, since the Dream World connects multiple universes from present, past and future. However, Grim Heart and Nemurin never interact, so it's unknown how GH would fare against that.

Ah fair, it is a bit sad though

 

[Steve1775]

It's a 4-D space and is powered by the Light which is a 4-D power source.

Also can't grim heart just dodge fairy? I reckon it is able to be dodged in lobotomy corp

 

[AThe1412]

Sorry for commenting so late. I didn't receive any notifs for some reason.

Out of curiosity, you said Binah's abilities cannot be changed or altered, but does that apply to just the "core" of Binah's powers (as in being locked to her being), or does it extend to the application of those powers in combat?

The latter. While the Library couldn't remove or suppress her abilities completely, it was still able to weaken them. Her combat pages in LoR, which are direct applications of her Singularities, have degraded and non-degraded versions, the latter of which she only has access to during the Final Reception when she regained her full power.

Also can't grim heart just dodge fairy? I reckon it is able to be dodged in lobotomy corp

The question shouldn't be whether she can, but rather whether she'll even try.

 

[Steve1775]

The question shouldn't be whether she can, but rather whether she'll even try.

Yeah now that I think about it Grim Heart is a lazy mf

 

[Steve1775]

The question shouldn't be whether she can, but rather whether she'll even try.

Yeah now that I think about it Grim Heart is a lazy mf

 

[GoldenScorpions]

Yeah now that I think about it Grim Heart is a lazy mf

Very much so. She tends to only do things herself if she absolutely has to. Considering her magic has never failed her before, it's unlikely she will dodge an attack that, in her mind, will be auto-blocked or deviated.