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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

DemonGodMitchAubin said:
Deku could have 100% killed Shigaraki, he just didn't want to

Fa Jin at peak storage+Gearshift would have obliterated him and there's nothing he could have done
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Folks talk about this as if Shigaraki was standing there waiting to be "obliterated".

1. Shigaraki was already on par with Gear Shift Deku once his quirks returned. That means, the only way Deku is tagging him with a full on attack is with tactics. Otherwise Deku was not capable of outspeeding Shigaraki even with Gear Shift.

2. Shigaraki himself is already capable of oneshotting Deku as well. But folks don't make the argument that Shigaraki was holding back on Deku just because he didn't kill him even the 2 times that Deku had Gear Shift blowback.

The statement by Nana was made when she was very emotional and conflicted. Yet people treat it as more fact than Kudo's direct and straightforward statement that puts Shigaraki above Deku in terms of strength.

Cause the same way Deku can stack OFA, Gear Shift, and Fa Jin, Shigaraki can also stack his Nomu strength + dozens of physical quirks like AFO did at Kamino. It is just that Shigaraki preferred to rely on what he was used to with Decay.
 
Man I am still pissed about that "fight". Shigaraki was truly a LOL player because he was fighting like it was a turn based game instead of you know, using the overwhelming arsenal.

Say whatever about AFO, his fights are far more entertaining.
 
Imagine if Shiggy had been spamming his birth Quirk and we didn't know why until it was revealed in the databook
 
Idk if y'all saw it but someone made like, a small comic of Ochaco and dekus kid and the kid had dekus mom quirk and Ochacos quirk and ngl being able to use telekinesis on something to make it weightless would be so broken in verse it's not even funny lmao
 
Dreymannn said:
Idk if y'all saw it but someone made like, a small comic of Ochaco and dekus kid and the kid had dekus mom quirk and Ochacos quirk and ngl being able to use telekinesis on something to make it weightless would be so broken in verse it's not even funny lmao
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Imagine Deku having his dad's Quirk and his mom's Quirk, but all he does is make fire come closer to him
 
SlendVeny said:
Imagine Deku having his dad's Quirk and his mom's Quirk, but all he does is make fire come closer to him
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I saw someone say this as a joke a long time ago and then said "This is why he always attracts hot things" with a bunch pinctures of the female characters around him. XD
 
Gitagon said:
Folks talk about this as if Shigaraki was standing there waiting to be "obliterated".

1. Shigaraki was already on par with Gear Shift Deku once his quirks returned. That means, the only way Deku is tagging him with a full on attack is with tactics. Otherwise Deku was not capable of outspeeding Shigaraki even with Gear Shift.
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Well Deku with no Gearshift or Fa Jin at all managed to land several direct blows on Shigaraki with Blackwhip Overlay, now imagine that strategy mindset with intent to kill and Fa Jin stored up. Shigaraki would be blown appart by that one punch.
Gitagon said:
2. Shigaraki himself is already capable of oneshotting Deku as well. But folks don't make the argument that Shigaraki was holding back on Deku just because he didn't kill him even the 2 times that Deku had Gear Shift blowback.
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Shigaraki was constantly trying to Decay Deku that entire time and could not do it to him even after Deku started losing more Quirks, so I don't see how a bloodlusted Deku who isn't wasting anymore time couldn't
Gitagon said:
The statement by Nana was made when she was very emotional and conflicted. Yet people treat it as more fact than Kudo's direct and straightforward statement that puts Shigaraki above Deku in terms of strength.
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It's less Nana's statement and moreso Shigaraki's statement of how if he took a direct hit from Deku, he's not sure if he'd be able to recover. And well, considering a regular Overdrive+Fa Jin punch alone blew away his entire torso and stomach, imagine an even more charged up punch. Also Kudo's statement was made after Deku was basically dying due to Gearshift's blowback, which if not for him using it on Bakugo, would also not be as bad. Kudo's statement also was considering how Deku wasn't going for the kill. He meant Shigaraki was too strong to just knock out.
Gitagon said:
Cause the same way Deku can stack OFA, Gear Shift, and Fa Jin, Shigaraki can also stack his Nomu strength + dozens of physical quirks like AFO did at Kamino. It is just that Shigaraki preferred to rely on what he was used to with Decay.
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I mean we saw him stack stuff on top of each other and it just didn't take Deku out. Maybe Omni-Factor Unleash could have been deadly, but I'm pretty sure that form is a bit too slow to handle Deku. I mean no Gearshift Deku dealt with Decay and Shigaraki's Finger Mutations pretty damn well

My point being, in a head to head fight at peak condition, Deku would kill Shigaraki. I don't think Shigaraki is way weaker and there are for sure win cons for Shigaraki. I'm just saying considering Deku pulled out a W basically by himself even without killer intent and with added blowback from using Gearshift on Bakugo, imagine if Deku did have killer intent and no added drawbacks, he'd 100% annihilate Shigaraki.
 
Inspired by Damage's CRT I saw when I came back here recently, a minor nitpick:

It seems that this calc is being used to buff everyone scaling to base Deku to Supersonic. Shouldn't this be strictly combat speed, though?
It makes it look like Base Deku and Iida can travel at supersonic speeds in their profiles, I think, when we do know they cannot do that.
 
Metalballrun said:
Inspired by Damage's CRT I saw when I came back here recently, a minor nitpick:

It seems that this calc is being used to buff everyone scaling to base Deku to Supersonic. Shouldn't this be strictly combat speed, though?
It makes it look like Base Deku and Iida can travel at supersonic speeds in their profiles, I think, when we do know they cannot do that.
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There are plans to overhaul the speed scaling of MHA. We'll be separating travel, combat, and reaction speeds.

However, there are some speed scaling I don't like that I hope to change in the future as well. As such a CRT will involve most of the verse, it's not an easy task.

We'll get to it, I promise.
 
I might be hallucinating but was there a scene in the anime of the Tiamat explosion being seen from space? I don't know why but I could have sworn I saw a scene like that....
 
Am I insane or did Himiko not crush a Nomu beneath her clones at one point? I'm asking because I need the scan for that for an argument I'm having off-site.
 
I dunno, all I know is that practically no one died so I doubt she killed a Nomu with just the weight of Sad Man's Death Parade.
 
They should be dead by all accounts because

1. The weight of the clones
2. The lack of air in that dense crowd
3, Their lung filling up with the goo from the Twices that get destroyed by the crush.
 
57Dev said:
1. The weight of the clones
2. The lack of air in that dense crowd
3, Their lung filling up with the goo from the Twices that get destroyed by the crush.
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1: All of the people there are super humans. That's just how durable they are. Your own suspension of disbelief is irrelevant.

2: It's physically impossible for them to lack air in this situation. They'd have to be in a contained location for that to work.

3: None of the Twice doubles are shown being destroyed by getting crushed. They're durable enough to withstand that without any damage.

But of course, head canon takes priority over any other possibility/opinion, I should've known better.
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
That might have been what I was remembering. I thought there was another moment at one point where its shown she had actually killed it with her clones while she was going insane.
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That was never shown.

I'd assure you, someone would've attempted to scale her to the Nomu if that was the case.
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
I just realized, why isn't Mineta's SS 8-A when we note he punched Deku hard enough for him to actually feel it? Was it like an off-guard kind of thing or something?
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Despite him "holding" his stomach, he gives zero reaction to being punched. It's also clearly not meant to be a seriously moment or thing of scaling.

The anime version of the scene makes it pretty clear there is no scaling involved. I'm planning to remove that from his profile in a future CRT as a minor change.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Despite him "holding" his stomach, he gives zero reaction to being punched. It's also clearly not meant to be a seriously moment or thing of scaling.

The anime version of the scene makes it pretty clear there is no scaling involved. I'm planning to remove that from his profile in a future CRT as a minor change.
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Well then, back to the drawing board on who the hell can Mineta fight on this website 😭

CastoriceTheFifth said:
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Izuku Midoriya (Deku) Vs Monster King Orochi (MHA Vs One Punch Man) [17-3-2]

Izuku Midoriya Vs Orochi Final War Arc 100% Deku will be used Attack Potency: 2.54 Exatons, 12.71 Exatons with Fa Jin Durability: 2.54 Exatons Lifting Strength: Class P (368,664,600,041,798 Metric Tons) True Form Orochi will be used Attack Potency: 5.68 Exatons Durability: 5.68 Exatons Lifting...
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Anyways if anyone wants to put their input, grace countdown has already started. Currently it’s 4 pages of yap.
 
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