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It has 50 yottafoe, so jin mori would be like 4x weaker. Not sure if it's fine
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Jing Yuan vs Mori Dan (0-0-0)
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Well i think i going to vote Mori (if it not a stomp), due to higher ap, Massively higher Ls, Accelerated Development, Analytical Prediction, Instinctive Reaction, Massively skill advantage, Avidya, etc
like she cannot one-shot or cause severe damage to Mori from the beginning, And in a prolonged battle, Mori would gain more and more of an advantage.
like she cannot one-shot or cause severe damage to Mori from the beginning, And in a prolonged battle, Mori would gain more and more of an advantage.
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Try swapping it to Mid Amphoreus because current Stelle legit cannot go past the damage reduction. He has AD anyways.
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Alright sure, changing keys now
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Does anyone here know how Crit Damage, Crit Rate, and Break Effect all functions in cross versus here
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Mori can easily close that 4× gap and he fought opponents many times stronger than himself before, so it shouldn't be a problem for him.
But do she have any hax in that key that would make it a stomp match?
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Check out her Mid Amphoreus key regarding her time haxes and more stat boosts
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Oh yeah how often Trail perform time hax
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We should keep it for now in case the match got turned into a stomp (worried about that time hax)
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- Time Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Psychometry, Unconventional Time Travel, Limited Conventional Time Travel & BFR (Mem time powers were stated to be greater than Oronyx's, who is the Time Titan. Mem can read and collect memories, and it can manifest them for itself and others to see. Mem can also use the memories it has gathered to create entire past timeline, enabling itself and others to travel through it, with any changes made seamlessly merging into the present, free of paradoxes. Mem is also capable of instantly turning day into night with their time powers. Oronyx, the Time Titan, is one of the Three Titans of Fate, governs the past, present, and future of Amphoreus, shaping its flow of time. With their powers over time, they can reverse its flow, traverse past timelines, and even merge them with the present, causing them to converge. Mem can remove its enemies from the battlefield by sending them to the past through the doors it creates)
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I’d say pretty often since you could google an entire compilation about Stelle using time rewind to rewind a spirit thief that tried to steal her jades. Her technique for the remembrance key is a timestop. There was also an entire plot point about how she went back into the past to get rid of Nikador’s immortality and then merged it into the present like the key says.
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Wouldn't this match becomes stompish?
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Actually I'll just increase Mori's key to Post-Orge as he has speed amps to make the match more fair
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How exactly does it work? Does it need to make contact with the other person in order to do that or something?
All I see is ability but not how it work, like, if it work like dio time stop? where he can choose to stop time whenever he wants, if that the case, Mori is cook, i think.
All I see is ability but not how it work, like, if it work like dio time stop? where he can choose to stop time whenever he wants, if that the case, Mori is cook, i think.
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Probably good since the side effect of her timestop is that after it ends, the victim’s speed is significantly reduced. Is anyone able to find out how crit damage and break effect will work in this fight.
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how much it reduced?
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Dont know
She doesn't need to make contact to rewind an object or person. She just needs to be near it even if the person vanishes into a void like spirit thiefs.
Heres the timestop for her technique wise.
Anything regarding the Universal + time manipulation check the key because I have zero idea how to explain it good.
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How long her timestop lasts
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thanks for explaining, well this matchup is absolutely in favour to mori and he skillstomps while also having large LS advantage as well
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the key was switched to mid amphoreus btw
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so whats her wincon besides having 1-B time hax and BFR
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Ngl I was gonna wait for Void's input because I'm not sure how the Uni+ portion of her time abilities would come into play here. Do you know how break effect and crit damage would work in this fight since those are still damage boosts for her ontop of the 525% from her ult.
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probaby just amount of crit dmg she gets from all crit amps she has multiplied by her ap trough all nrmal amps
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So just apply the crit damage buff as normal to AP?
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Eh I was told that it was a better matchup, do you want to revert both keys back to og?
Also timestop lasts for 10 seconds
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Technically it probably doesn't matter. Mori would most likely stomp the og match but it would be much less of a stomp than this version.
That's more than enough for any superhumanly fast character
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Does it make her opponent move as slowly as snails?
Oh, I see it now. It's not as op as I thought. It seems like Stelle have to raise her hand to stop time, and the range isn't as wide as I think either, it's only about tens of meters.
So Mori can just blitzes her before her raise her hand then? or dodge her time stop thing before it fully expand?
and it seem like Time Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Psychometry, Unconventional Time Travel, Limited Conventional Time Travel & BFR is come from Mem not Stelle herself, so how Mem Time thing work here?
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So what’s Stelle’s answer to layered genjutsu
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When did Sasuke joined the fight
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Funnily enough, if you use Oronyx's time stop mechanism and then you use Remembrance Trailblazer's time stop. You'd get the Chrono Surge achievement, whilst if you use Oronyx's time stop nor Remembrance Trailblazer's against an object during rewind gets you The World achievement (The reference, yes).
I'd say, not only that it's able to reconstruct a new timeline through memories (You could argue the maximal range for this is 12-D, btw given potency is exclusively for 1-A and above). You're also able to rewind and stop time simultaneously theoretically, or even stopping time even when it was already stopped. That with BFR, which is able to trap their enemies inside the timeline that has been constructed.
Break Effect & Crit DMG would just be the default statistics for Stelle w/o lightcone buff or relic, tbh.
Mori shouldn't be able to blitz her given it's speed equalized, and speed amplification is assumed to be the same percentile so if one side uses that. The other would be amplified either, it's on the speed equalization rules and I lowkey don't wanna debate how Mem as a summon is similar to Stand on JJBA which APPARENTLY would not be equalized in terms of speed. Which means, if most JJBA matchups is a stomp because they're MFTL+ and that's not going to be equalized — This one is straight up Immeasurable.
Unconventional resistance stuff ig.
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stelle sadly has no way to harm Mori as she cant overcome the damage reduction, i suggest using someone like Feixiao, Jing yuan or Phantylia who have imaginary energy and some sort of dura negation (on a 1-B scale 
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What? Wdym "the other side would be amplified"?
Yeah I think this is a mismatch either way.stelle sadly has no way to harm Mori as she cant overcome the damage reduction, i suggest using someone like Feixiao, Jing yuan or Phantylia who have imaginary energy and some sort of dura negation(on a 1-B scale
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Like, it's either you amp yourself and it doesn't increase the speed at all, or it increases your speed but your opponent also increases. Idk
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No, you're misreading it.
It means that the speed amps remain proportional to the user.
So if a speed amp made a 1c character become 10c, and now they get equalized to say MHS+, their speed amp will still only provide the same percentile of increase. Meaning they would still become only 10x faster instead of jumping to FTL+ like they usually do.
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