• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Wanna talk about an old topic.
Since baraggan's fundamental ability revolves around localized time manipulation, why can't we add target's time acceleration along with aging. He is technically achieving age manipulation by accelerating their time.
That actually makes sense. Maybe you could list his age manipulation as age manipulation via time acceleration?
 
I might possibly make a minor content revision thread for Yhwach (no promises, though). All it would do is add the rest of the Schrifts he doesn't have since the anime changed it so all of the Bambis are actually dead and/or die against Yhwach, which means G - The Glutton, P - The Power, T - The Thunderbolt, and Z- The Zombie should get added to his profile (not they really do much for him, but hey, we're an indexing site first, and and a bigger wall of text makes my brain happy).
 
I don't know if arc has plans for that but I just wanna ask will ichigo and yhwach get upgraded to slavekrei volstanding uryu's value? Since ichigo atleast relative and possibly even more powerful than that uryu and yhwach is relative to that ichigo. Or is there some other plans for that?
 
I don't know if arc has plans for that but I just wanna ask will ichigo and yhwach get upgraded to slavekrei volstanding uryu's value? Since ichigo atleast relative and possibly even more powerful than that uryu and yhwach is relative to that ichigo. Or is there some other plans for that?
I am talking about true shikai ichigo and Awakened yhwach.
 
I don't know if arc has plans for that but I just wanna ask will ichigo and yhwach get upgraded to slavekrei volstanding uryu's value? Since ichigo atleast relative and possibly even more powerful than that uryu and yhwach is relative to that ichigo. Or is there some other plans for that?
Lucky for you, Yhwach and Ichigo are next after my Ichibe revision concludes
 
It definitely wouldn't be a minor retcon. It would result in us having to completely ignore several events and moments in the books, including incredibly important ones like the Quincy Girls fighting Hikone. If we accept that these characters have truly died in the anime, it would require us to reconcile these inconsistencies in the books, in a way that addresses the issue without making the books non-canon. I don't see this being possible, as they play pretty prominent roles in them.
 
It definitely wouldn't be a minor retcon. It would result in us having to completely ignore several events and moments in the books, including incredibly important ones like the Quincy Girls fighting Hikone. If we accept that these characters have truly died in the anime, it would require us to reconcile these inconsistencies in the books, in a way that addresses the issue without making the books non-canon. I don't see this being possible, as they play pretty prominent roles in the books.
I don't really remember the scene but was it a blatant portrayal they died? Because if not we would have no reason to believe they died or are permanently gone from the series.
 
I don't really remember the scene but was it a blatant portrayal they died? Because if not we would have no reason to believe they died or are permanently gone from the series.
I don't recall the specifics, but I believe it showed them being defeated and implied to have died. Implication alone isn't enough to say that they actually did, and if we still assume the Novels are Canon, we explicitly know that they didn't.

We should air on the side of caution and wait until the anime is completed to see if it addresses this issue or not. If it does, we continue on from there. If it doesn't, we assume that the Novels are still Canon as those provide us with more reason to believe that they are compared to assuming the anime changed it.
 
I don't recall the specifics, but I believe it showed them being defeated and implied to have died. Implication alone isn't enough to say that they actually did, and if we still assume the Novels are Canon, we explicitly know that they didn't.

We should air on the side of caution and wait until the anime is completed to see if it addresses this issue or not. If it does, we continue on from there. If it doesn't, we assume that the Novels are still Canon as those provide us with more reason to assume that they are compared to assuming the anime changed it.
Besides mayuri healed them in the novels, the same mayuri that saved Kira who had a portion of his torso blown out. There is no reason to believe they died.
 
You should probably delete the image if you're not fine with showing what County you live in. If you're fine with that being public knowledge, then you can ignore this.
 
Yes, Jugram saves them for the continuity of the Quincy race. In the novel, Liltotto can still use her Schrift. So I don't think Yhwach took it from her. When Yhwach dies, do the powers return to their owners?
 
we just don’t know what occurred with the rest of the Bambis yet to know if it’s beyond a minor retcon. We know there’s plenty of ways for these characters to be revived such that their involvement in the story isn’t contradicted. If anything their immediate state of being following the war might get retconned that’s truly it
 
What did the anime do differently from the manga except yhwach being awake in the manga?
Well, for one, Meninas and Candice are actually seen again after the Auswahlen. In the anime, it's shown the Giselle turned them into zombies (which, as we all know, requires them to be dead since they're Quincies).

In the manga, they're never seen again, which was explained in Can't Fear Your Own World as them actually surviving the Auswahlen, but then getting the arguably worse fate of being captured by Squad 12 and turned into part of Mayuri's Kurotscuchi Corpse Unit.
 
It definitely wouldn't be a minor retcon. It would result in us having to completely ignore several events and moments in the books, including incredibly important ones like the Quincy Girls fighting Hikone. If we accept that these characters have truly died in the anime, it would require us to reconcile these inconsistencies in the books, in a way that addresses the issue without making the books non-canon. I don't see this being possible, as they play pretty prominent roles in them.
Not really. The only reason Liltotto and Giselle are even alive in Bleach: Can't Fear Your Own World is because Jugrum used the Almighty to save them after their death.

Candice and Meninas were actually alive, but Mayuri found them and turned them into zombies anyway. Having them be dead when Mayuri finds them actually makes him turning them into zombies make more sense (and he's able to revive the dead, as seen with Arrancars and Nanana).

It's really just a minor change in the grand scheme of things.
 
Well, for one, Meninas and Candice are actually seen again after the Auswahlen. In the anime, it's shown the Giselle turned them into zombies (which, as we all know, requires them to be dead since they're Quincies).

In the manga, they're never seen again, which was explained in Can't Fear Your Own World as them actually surviving the Auswahlen, but then getting the arguably worse fate of being captured by Squad 12 and turned into part of Mayuri's Kurotscuchi Corpse Unit.
Not really. The only reason Liltotto and Giselle are even alive in Bleach: Can't Fear Your Own World is because Jugrum used the Almighty to save them after their death.

Candice and Meninas were actually alive, but Mayuri found them and turned them into zombies anyway. Having them be dead when Mayuri finds them actually makes him turning them into zombies make more sense (and he's able to revive the dead, as seen with Arrancars and Nanana).

It's really just a minor change in the grand scheme of things.
You don't have to, but you probably should add images to your thread.
You are correct. The only thing they can't use are their Voll Stern Dich's.
I'm 95% sure we will, but fair enough.
Brother, you can make multiple replies in one post. You don’t need to make five consecutive posts lmao
 
I wonder Arc, are we getting close to god-tiers, or do we still got a ladder to climb after Ichybald? Not rushing, just curious.
 
Btw, has Bleach accepted the concept of "Mind crushing"? Like when a Shinigami performs a soul crush, it effects the mind too since every soul is connected to it
 
Btw, has Bleach accepted the concept of "Mind crushing"? Like when a Shinigami performs a soul crush, it effects the mind too since every soul is connected to it
Damaging the soul in Bleach results in the Mind also being damaged by extension, since both structures are interconnected with one another. So, yes, Reiatsu Crush does affect the Mind; we just don't call it "Mind Crush" because the terminology predates the conception of the argument of Souls and Minds in Bleach being intertwined.
 
Damaging the soul in Bleach results in the Mind also being damaged by extension, since both structures are interconnected with one another. So, yes, Reiatsu Crush does affect the Mind; we just don't call it "Mind Crush" because the terminology predates the conception of the argument of Souls and Minds in Bleach being intertwined.
So should soul physiology page be updated slightly to be given mind manipulation then? So basically any character who can resist their soul being damaged but not the mind, would still die passively as they cant resist mind damage/destruction
 
Back
Top