Why are you twisting what I said? In relation to Feldway's destruction of the universe, I think the Sacred Tree is more durable than the universe.
Again, "at least".
We know Ciel is shown to be able to observe the entire world and Ciel was consciously while Rimuru's body is sending to end of space-time. Ciel is a reliable source in this case.
Where do you get this from?
Are you telling me this?Cosmology Page Note said:
Check his wall comment. This was confirmed again it's Talking about Small and Weak worlds
It was stated ended not destroyed and she was still within the timeline before it got ended they reached end of Space-time thanks to heath of universe which is law of entropy clearly mentioned in the plot. Again I'll not repeat this you can take a look at what is Law of Entropy.
Guy is equal to Milim from what I have seen. Milim's advantage is that she grows stronger. But overall, that's not the point. I didn't say it was limited to Solar System level, but that it was at least Solar System level. So we shouldn't automatically assume that "at least Solar System" means timeline or something higher. Also, if she had enough power to nuke a timeline, the author wouldn't need to mention that the attack was at least Solar System level — he would have just said it had enough power to destroy the entire world or something similar. You should check how many times the author is limiting the power creep here. Fuse is never trying to make these characters reach universal level in any sense, except for Veldanava and Rimuru as far as I can see.
Oh brother, the Cardinal World's planet is more durable and has the Sacred Tree. If Dragon Nova could AOE nuke the whole thing, she wouldn't have needed to wait and aim at a single target — she could have just destroyed the universe or timeline instead. Here, she was clearly aiming at the planet. I don't see her having universal range in any sense.
No
Got nuked and I'm not seeing it getting accepted again for the reasons I have mentioned but will see that when someone tries that upgrade.Was whole argument for hypertimeline
Nothing proves that for now.
Scan?
Is there any proof that his universe-destroying feat was an instant attack?
Yes atleast sure.
Except there is a time gap between Ciel and Rimuru getting BFR'd and reaching a distant point in the future. That's why they don't know what happened in that timeline.
As long as we understand this that's good.
Yes, still doesn't change that the primary meaning is destruction. And we have Low 2-C feats for context.
Yeah
Nothing says that they aren't visible. I think there's also a subspace in dimensions, they could have been within that subspace. (I need to ask some people for scans tho)
What? You talking about the subspace?
Bruh, they are clearly talking about the same thing.
Which can be translated differently based on context, context we have. Thats why the otl said worlds are in dimensions. Also, Spiritual Lifeforms can easily travel across worlds, yet crossing dimensions requires a lot of magicules, something only Milim or Primordial Angels have. Because of the dimensional wall, something worlds don't have.
Where did it say he only conquered a universe? It said he conquered the entire dimension and then left.
He doesn't has a specific nuke attacks like Carrera and Milim, what he would do would simply be to release all the energy in his body and create an explosion.
Can you please not keep making these types of comments....
I already explained small worlds. Idk why you keep ignoring shi. Genuinely not tracking or something. Physical worlds are small and fragile worlds. More magicules = bigger/stronger world. The SMALLEST known world is our universe. As it is a world without ANY magicules AT all. True dragons can destroy these worlds. It is YOUR burden to prove that worlds smaller/less durable than the smallest known structure that exists.
Already addressed why small worlds are still universal in size, due to OUR universe literally being one of those small worlds. Rimuru is from our universe. And it is a physical world. Also known as a weak world. Can get kanji and shi will also translate to small world. Meaning our universe is SMALL.
The world ended. The timeline was destroyed by feldway. Two distinct things.if you disagree ,too bad. You would need to make a thread for that in order for your arguments here to even be worthwhile. Your debunk is based on something that is rejected based on what is already listed.
Guy can only fight Milim because of his battle iq. He is not nearly as strong as her. Not even as strong as velzard in terms of strength. Regardless. Aura=milim all out attack? Milim literally has a stronger aura than him.
we aren’t assuming anything. It is directly stated that the universe collapsed. And then Chloe went back in time. Milim was about to destroy the world again but rimuru came. So this attack being able to EASILY do something, doesn’t debunk anything.
Both things were said. Also this isn’t an argument at all.
. Turn null attacks are literally directly stated to be able to destroy the world. And people hold that destruction in thier bodies.She needed to compress her energy into a single shot in order to destroy the tree. If she didn’t then the energy would have been spread out and not have destroyed the tree. If the tree is gone, then everything else also gets destroyed. If it is powerful enough to destroy the tree,the universe also cannot contain it and gets destroyed.she was aiming at the tree, not the planet.
Rimuru ate it. And it literally hurt him. Nothing at all about the planet.
They aren’t different. Yukki explains what worlds are. They are universes. And Mai literally calls the universe the base/central world. So we know that the universe itself is the base world. Even the wiki knows this.
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Argue that in the new thread you need to make. As it is currently accepted
I was simply giving reasoning. Even though hypertimeline is gone,everything else about worlds has stayed the same
The fact Chloe can timetravel after the world got destroyed already proves it. As she witnessed its destruction to the very end.
Thank you for proving you didn’t read my counter argument fully as you would have seen the scan.
He didn’t fight Diablo seriously at all. Didn’t use any of his abilities or techniques because he isn’t used to them.
False. Read the scan. She doesn’t know what happened because it already ended the MOMENT they were sent away.
Wasn't it stated that Feldway intended to destroy the planet? And as ciel/rimuru (whoever) reached the end of the time, he saw that the world had stopped because entropy had reached its maximum? Rimuru then goes on to explain how stars died and all, but the universe still didn't die and how time was still there, just stopped. It seems more like an overtime feat rather than something that happened instantly, given that Rimuru basically went an eternity ahead in time.
Yeah, take your time. I would like to work on our summaries together so staff can evaluate properly.
I won't delve into CRT, but this scan is clearly talking about cutting space ("shearing through dimensions"), not cut a entire dimension of universal size.
No. Feldway wants to destroy the world tree, which would unleash ivarage. Allowing him to destroy all of existence.as he believes that nothing deserves to exist without veldanava.
Cutting space literally involves cutting through reality itself. It is the same as dimensional slash which cuts through the world itself causing it to heal itself so it doesn’t suffer permanent damage
Unless you have some evidence that this attack affects/cut a whole continuous spacetime, will be just a space cut.
Downgrades are evil. Araya-sama said so. I agree with this guy. This goes against the teachings of stillness
Just translate this for now. I'll ask if anything else is needed later.
verses are only allowed to get more powerful.
When was it stated that Feldway only wanted to destroy the planet?
Entropy has reached its maximum due to Feldway destroying the universe.
The end of space-time is only expressed as a distant future, but also the death of all stars had long expired before the reaching end of space-time is reached.
Anyway, Feldway would be way above 4-B.
From reading Volume 20, it’s clear that Zorario isn’t the type of guy who would go around destroying worlds instead of conquering them. It’s explicitly mentioned that he had no desire for destruction. I currently disagree with the idea that Zorario literally destroyed other dimensions. CodeCcl seems to be misunderstanding by assuming that Zorario was on board with destroying the worlds in the verse, unless there’s some statement where Zorario is already aware of Feldway’s goal.
Yeah it's better if we have more scans
Well what I'm saying is if there is dimension and worlds within it. First Dimension should be visible for characters not the worlds.
Across the worlds ≠ Crossing the worlds though.
If you acknowledge any gods, start praying know for your powerscaling career(!)
Considering V21 doesn't have an OTL, I will assume you are asking for a rough RAW or MTL of it, since this entire exchange is about an untranslated chapter.
Volume 20
Considering V21 doesn't have an OTL, I will assume you are asking for a rough RAW or MTL of it, since this entire exchange is about an untranslated chapter.
What exactly do you understand from this sentence?
Destroying worlds would be inconsistent for characters who were not True Dragon level or above. But anyway they manifest from other worlds through their immortality type 9, and thanks to their immortality type 8, they do not die even if their alter egos do.
Since when does a character have to have an ability to destroy things?
Why ignore this?
From what I see from Zorario's perspective, he thought Feldway was trying to resurrect Veldanava, not destroy all of creation. Could you show where Zorario was actually on board with the plan? Because you claimed he would go around destroying dimensions because of that.
So why you are believing Zorario dimension destruction feats are credible?
Volume 16
In this verse, except for Rimuru and Veldanava — who massively scale above Zorario — the only statements about creating a universe involve specific things like Turn Null. So why assume Zorario can just destroy dimensions that are Low 2-C?
Well needs some translation @Wankbreaker if you don't mind.
So, you are uncertain that Sacred Tree is more durable than the universe? Or are we just assuming things now?
Do you have proof that the space-time is universe sized and are not universes with vast and unknown sizes?
Scans pls.
It is definitely more durable since Feldway cannot destroy it
Our universe is literally one of them. And it is just one universe that is held within a world.
Ivarage is going to destroy everything I can get stuff about feldway planning to destroy all of existence
Code said only Milim can destroy the tree, and this says Feldway can't, but it almost looks as if there's more, what's the reasoning behind that?
Is Milim outright stronger than Feldway at his own best or is it that he's using her to fulfill his plans as some sort of catalyst towards an end (plan)?
Milim is outright stronger than feldway. So he NEEDS her power in order to destroy the tree , or else the world just can’t be destroyed.
In the op at the counter arguments section, it shows a link to the 'previous thread' ('part 3' but without revised in the title) towards a comment that Code made, saying Milim is the most powerful after Feldway, so did she just grow to that point for him to talk like how he did after a while or it's just something more recent?
We just thought feldway was more powerful since he was hyped up and had better feats. But vol 22 explains it. Milim is just straight up more powerful. And that is without her being allowed to grow stronger
