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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Its arguable sorcerers have an easier time with output in their ct than physicals. There's also the one time out of the whole series but likely common where Todo focused all his ce to reduce damage from Mahito.
I think that just means all the CE he's currently molded to enhance his body got concentrated into one area. If sorcerers were able to literally concentrate their entire CE reserves into attacks, Yuta would be a lot stronger than he is.
Wouldn't maximum outputs be the very example? I guess it could just be a skill thing.
Even Gojo, who's one of the most skilled sorcerers in the series, has a maximum output for his techniques
Sure ig, although that's a different Sukuna than the one using Dismantles on Yuji, and when Sukuna punches him earlier, it doesn't draw blood as opposed to his Dismantles which force him to heal.
But not vastly more damage
Which is why they're similar
In those cases yes
Because Sukuna felt the need to dodge his attacks
The implication is there
Even when he kicked Sukuna, it didn't do any visible damage.
1. Jjk0 lovebeam was created via a binding vow that explicitly releases more energy, plus that's not a technique
Sure but it's something that's not physicals, and my position is that CE attacks are generally stronger
And Sendai love beam is below granite blast which Yuta can palm and overpower, that isn't evidence
This is not the same Granite Blast at all, Granite Blast is only stronger when it charges to full power, not just any GB is gonna be that strong. Although anyways, a weak Granite Blast ****** Yuta up and severely burnt Yuta's hand.
2. Thin Ice breaker break space so there's nothing to tank or block hence an outlier, plus Rika punches and thin Ice breaker deals the same damage and Yuta can still draw blood from Ryu

3. Piercing blood is a continuous technique that depends on physical reinforcement and compression to its limit, so it's CT + Reinforcement
Wdym depends on "physical" reinforcement? Compression sure
4. Don't know how big armour gives a far superior attack power
Did physical damage to Sukuna as opposed to when Sukuna was casually blocking her strikes
5. Gojo uses blue for his punches so there's no conclusive evidence that it is massively above his physical stats
Why is Red being >>physicals PLUS BLUE an antifeat for Red being >>physicals alone 😭
6. It's specifically his dura that's below Hanami and both of them are equal in strength (Jogo only edges out due to elemental matchup)
His strength can't be above his dura, so I basically meant that since Hanami can be physically damaged by people comparable to him in strength, Hanami's strength<~Hanami's dura>Jogo's dura~/>Jogo's strength. Although either way, even if Jogo's physical strength was equal to Hanami's, his lava is still stronger than that considering how he did Nanami, Naobito, and Maki.
6. No counter to ratio
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No because that's the function of the technique
It's like you bringing mahoraga technique as a counter to UES
It's Hax
It's not dura neg, since it wasn't able to completely bypass Gojo's CE reinforcement. Just like anything, it has a maximum output. The level Cleave can rise to is simply higher than the level Sukuna's physicals and Dismantles can rise to.
 
Sure but it's something that's not physicals, and my position is that CE attacks are generally stronger
No your position was CT attacks were stronger
If we were arguing about CE, then you wouldn't have an argument

Sure ig, although that's a different Sukuna than the one using Dismantles on Yuji, and when Sukuna punches him earlier, it doesn't draw blood as opposed to his Dismantles which force him to heal.
Probably because Yuji blocked as opposed to the dismantles which he couldn't block on time

This is not the same Granite Blast at all, Granite Blast is only stronger when it charges to full power, not just any GB is gonna be that strong. Although anyways, a weak Granite Blast ****** Yuta up and severely burnt Yuta's hand.
My brother in Christ the first one isn't granite blast at all, that's Ryu matching Yuta body slam
Granite blast is released from his head and he only releases it when it has reached maximum power

Wdym depends on "physical" reinforcement? Compression sure
I mean the blood is reinforced with cursed energy to strengthen it

I mean... the evidence you brought showed no attack landing on sukuna
If you're talking about the beginning of the chapter, then sukuna didn't block because he wanted to adapt to her liquid metal

Why is Red being >>physicals PLUS BLUE an antifeat for Red being >>physicals alone 😭
What?
Who said that?
I'm saying there's no conclusive evidence that red is massively above his physical attacks, because we haven't seen him use his physical attacks on somebody

His strength can't be above his dura, so I basically meant that since Hanami can be physically damaged by people comparable to him in strength, Hanami's strength<~Hanami's dura>Jogo's dura~/>Jogo's strength. Although either way, even if Jogo's physical strength was equal to Hanami's, his lava is still stronger than that considering how he did Nanami, Naobito, and Maki.
Yeah it very much can, glass canons exist in fiction
Said characters were massively weakened from Dagon fight and Nanami already noticed Jogo was far stronger than Dagon before seeing his technique
Unless Nanami can know techniques before it is used, His strength is definitely above his dura



It's not dura neg, since it wasn't able to completely bypass Gojo's CE reinforcement. Just like anything, it has a maximum output. The level Cleave can rise to is simply higher than the level Sukuna's physicals and Dismantles can rise to.
I already stated Cleave is an outlier
That's why cleave is seperate from dismantle even though they're both slashing attacks
 
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My brother in Christ the first one isn't granite blast at all, that's Ryu matching Yuta body slam
Granite blast is released from his head and he only releases it when it has reached maximum power
Well really don't care about both of your side but that was GB not just body slam and where did you get the notion that GB can be only fired from his head?
 
That is not at all a granite blast that Ryu does when he bounces Yuta away the first time, that was just raw output from what we can tell
 
One of the more underrated speed feats we see several times throughout JJK is people hopping from one location to another. Gojo, Yuta, and Sukuna all do it. I think the best timeframe we have so far is from the Yuta one thanks to us having a relative timeframe from the addition of the new rule
 
One of the more underrated speed feats we see several times throughout JJK is people hopping from one location to another. Gojo, Yuta, and Sukuna all do it. I think the best timeframe we have so far is from the Yuta one thanks to us having a relative timeframe from the addition of the new rule
I think the thought was Gojo just teleported which makes sense and Yuta likely got teleported by Todo to Shinjuku unless you're thinking something different. I'm still confused why Sukuna saving Haruta was never applied.
 
I think the thought was Gojo just teleported which makes sense and Yuta likely got teleported by Todo to Shinjuku unless you're thinking something different. I'm still confused why Sukuna saving Haruta was never applied.
Cuz it assumes he moved all the way from Jogo's meteor and saved Haruta in a single movement rather than getting closer and observing from a closer distance before doing so
 
I think the thought was Gojo just teleported which makes sense and Yuta likely got teleported by Todo to Shinjuku unless you're thinking something different. I'm still confused why Sukuna saving Haruta was never applied.
I don't think Yuta got teleported. There are several indications, first is that Yuta clearly is arriving at the battlefield as seen with him crashing on the building, the other is that IIRC Todo doesn't have that kind of range and also the fact that Todo didn't get there to help Yuta either which he would have done if he could teleport, also that he arrives just moments later after Sukuna got Tengen.

The scene overall shows that Yuta made his way back to the battlefield by his own means
 
I don't think Yuta got teleported. There are several indications, first is that Yuta clearly is arriving at the battlefield as seen with him crashing on the building, the other is that IIRC Todo doesn't have that kind of range and also the fact that Todo didn't get there to help Yuta either which he would have done if he could teleport, also that he arrives just moments later after Sukuna got Tengen.
Yuta arriving doesn't mean he didn't get teleported... And this would be an example of Todo having that range. Todo was likely tired after teleporting Yuta or he stayed to help Takaba and finish off any other curses. I've also already gotten Todo's range accepted on page. The more insane belief is that he ran hundreds of km in minutes. I've done the math before Yuta was at Lake Gosho, its 400+ km away. You're literally arguing for fastest feat done by someone not Sukuna or Gojo
 
We know that Todo couldn't teleport Yuji and Choso outside of Sukuna's domain because they were too far in though. Unless Sukuna's domain is much larger than previously stated that's a pretty direct counter towards Todo teleporting Yuta to the battlefield there.
 
We know that Todo couldn't teleport Yuji and Choso outside of Sukuna's domain because they were too far in though. Unless Sukuna's domain is much larger than previously stated that's a pretty direct counter towards Todo teleporting Yuta to the battlefield there.
When was that said?
 
Nvm found it. You were mistaken for the reason.
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I don't think Yuta got teleported. There are several indications, first is that Yuta clearly is arriving at the battlefield as seen with him crashing on the building, the other is that IIRC Todo doesn't have that kind of range and also the fact that Todo didn't get there to help Yuta either which he would have done if he could teleport, also that he arrives just moments later after Sukuna got Tengen.

The scene overall shows that Yuta made his way back to the battlefield by his own means
Sukuna should be able to react to Yuta if he run to the battlefield. It's really out of character for him not recognising Massive Cursed Energy pool coming at him
We know that Todo couldn't teleport Yuji and Choso outside of Sukuna's domain because they were too far in though. Unless Sukuna's domain is much larger than previously stated that's a pretty direct counter towards Todo teleporting Yuta to the battlefield there.
He couldn't teleport because of massive CE in the middle couldn't indentify the target iirc

Nvm found it. You were mistaken for the reason.
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Yeah it's about CE

Anyway no one is talking about Ui Ui Teleportation?
 
What I'm saying is why no one is considering the possibility of Ui Ui bringing back Yuta from Kenjaku spot to Shinjuku. I mean he could have teleported him though.
Nah if anything it should be Todo
Because The destruction that Yuta caused on his arrival isn't something UI UI has been shown to take
Plus we see the destroyed street on Yuta arrival and no sign of UI UI
 
Sorry it's a bridge

So there is clearly a possibility of Ui Ui involved
You should know even Maki SSK being able to senses by Sukuna if it wasn't for it was being inside Yuta's Domain and Sukuna letting his guard down.
The whole point is Yuta with his CE pool should be easier to be sensed from a long distance. I'm not seeing him running upto Sukuna without Sukuna realising it.
Not accepting Yuta glaze?
We don't do that here
We don't wank Yuta here only Yuki glaze is acceptable
 
So there is clearly a possibility of Ui Ui involved
You should know even Maki SSK being able to senses by Sukuna if it wasn't for it was being inside Yuta's Domain and Sukuna letting his guard down.
The whole point is Yuta with his CE pool should be easier to be sensed from a long distance. I'm not seeing him running upto Sukuna without Sukuna realising it.
I mean...
Do we know sukuna didn't realise it?
Plus Yuta was with Todo, maybe it was Todo that teleported him there
We don't wank Yuta here only Yuki glaze is acceptable
A fellow Yuki glazer?
I wasn't familiar with your game
 
Glad Gege put the cap on Takaba that he isn’t as busted as people think simply cause its Takaba with the CT instead of someone more competent.
Was real tired of seeing the Takaba top 1 ppl
 
This comment is really confusing because wouldnt he actually be top 1 in this case ?
The fact that he was beaten by Kenjaku shows how he technically isn't top 1. While it's a contender for the strongest CT, the fact that Takaba was still beaten because of how the CT functions and because of how Takaba uses it shows that he's essentially nerfing its full capabilities.
 
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