The OP doesn't wanna continue this anymore

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

uh ionno did this for fun because of this

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathBattleMatchups/s/t1fj6SJnsy

but I kinda wanna see if this is a stomp or not

-Victory via Incap, Death or BFR
-C00lkidd has his C00lgui ig
-WYST Key is Used
-Both are in Character

A DELICIOUS SNACK INDEED!!!: @TheShape03
Scales to 58 Megatons Physically
Scales to 108.000000043 m/s

team c00lkidd join today!: @Coolwriter2805
Scales to 10686138.5974 Joules
Scales to Baseline Superhuman Speed

Incon:

 

[TheShape03]

The fight would literally go like this.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

The fight would literally go like this.

lol, I only did this cuz the same person who made that reddit thing also did a blog and gave CoolKidd the win high diff

they did give some wincons and shit, like c00lkid's death manipulation (which suspiciously doesn't have any scans and doesn't seem to be smth that our the FC/oc pfp has, which they actually used the FC/oc scaling for both verses), C00lkidd having better combat despite weaker stats
Wyst probably would toy with CoolKidd thus not being able to to utilize his superior stat and being too dumb

but the blog kinda went oof
when they started scaling the characters to they're original non pillar chase counterparts
Scaling C00lkidd to the actual C00lkidd that did the actual hackings
and when they scaled WYST Getting Slammed into Earth's surface to city level, etc etc
and while I do disagree with uni Forsaken as a whole (Personally believe that C00lkidd making C00L Carnival is just Him making the carnival not the Actual entire Realm, and not believing The Roblox games being actually universes, but I can't stop anyone)


Actual I might as well Send the goofy Blog in this thread since it's related to this anyways

C00lkidd vs WYST blog

WYST vs C00lkidd VS blog! WYST, the soul eating monster of Pillar Chase 2 And C00lkidd, the playful exploiter of Forsaken Roblox, a platform full to the brim of creativity, full of games of every genre. And these two playful adversaries come from roblox's most popular asymmetrical horror ga...

docs.google.com

 

[TheShape03]

Considering the current profiles of both characters here, I really doubt C00lkidd can do anything against WYST.

WYST is dumb, too dumb, enough that he won't use any powers that would guarantee a quick victory. Instead, he'll do what he does in the game: rely on physical attacks and Gobble Bombs.

The problem is, even then, WYST is not only faster than C00lkidd, but he also has the AP to reduce him to atoms in one hit.

I know C00lkidd is immortal and can be resurrected by The Spectre, but how long that takes is unknown, so he'd still lose the fight.

I will vote for WYST.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Considering the current profiles of both characters here, I really doubt C00lkidd can do anything against WYST.

WYST is dumb, too dumb, enough that he won't use any powers that would guarantee a quick victory. Instead, he'll do what he does in the game: rely on physical attacks and Gobble Bombs.

The problem is, even then, WYST is not only faster than C00lkidd, but he also has the AP to reduce him to atoms in one hit.

I know C00lkidd is immortal and can be resurrected by The Spectre, but how long that takes is unknown, so he'd still lose the fight.

I will vote for WYST.

counted and I honestly wonder how the people made the blog concluded that WYST would toy with C00lkidd enough to not use his status advantages

 

[TheShape03]

counted and I honestly wonder how the people made the blog concluded that WYST would toy with C00lkidd enough to not use his status advantages

I have no idea. Literally every monster in PC2 relies on physical attacks as their first move.

 

[El_rapero_de_tf2]

Actual I might as well Send the goofy Blog in this thread since it's related to this anyways

with all due respect

this sucks

they categorized fuwatti RUNNING SO FAST HE WENT BACK IN TIME as FTL

 

[HonestlyBored24]

yeah I don’t see how coolkid wins this

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

with all due respect

this sucks

they categorized fuwatti RUNNING SO FAST HE WENT BACK IN TIME as FTL

Yeah they were corrected in the Reddit Comments on where he posted the blog, I also commented there, and he did explain this was like they're second time scaling characters (first time with characters that had this much in scaling) and they had help making the blog

 

[Coolwriter2805]

1. The blog absolutely sucks. Like, Fuwatti as FTL?? Seriously?? But otherwise it makes really good points in how C00lkidd is going to win. WYST is just too dumb, so those clones are absolutely gonna come in handy.

I know C00lkidd is immortal and can be resurrected by The Spectre, but how long that takes is unknown, so he'd still lose the fight.

After a match ends, the killers are instantly teleported to their limbo before they are released like 40 seconds after the intermission. Also, not sure how that's supposed to help WYST. Like, okay, "we don't know how long that takes" but that's no reason to assume C00lkidd can't just come back. Also, doesn't C00lkidd have MFTL+ corruption speed? C00lkidd has subsonic reaction speed as well, so him dodging Gobble Bombs isn't impossible.

I vote for C00lkidd because of BFR and hax and whatnot. Also, I don't think WYST is smart enough to bypass C00lkidd's strategies and mindgames.

 

[Coolwriter2805]

Yeah they were corrected in the Reddit Comments on where he posted the blog, I also commented there, and he did explain this was like they're second time scaling characters (first time with characters that had this much in scaling) and they had help making the blog

At least they owned up to it. It was a pretty decent blog overall though, especially for their second time scaling.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

C00lkidd has subsonic reaction speed

uh that's listed as attack speed in his profile

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

uh that's listed as attack speed in his profile

and there's also like no BFR on C00lkidd's pfp too

 

[Coolwriter2805]

uh that's listed as attack speed in his profile

Yeah, but he should have subsonic reaction speed as well considering he scales off of Shedletsky.

and there's also like no BFR on C00lkidd's pfp too

There's no BFR, but he can still use it because of C00l Carnival. Also, I have no clue how WYST is gonna get past that Type 8 immortality when he has no knowledge about Forsaken's cosmology. As long as the players are untouched, C00lkidd will live and come back almost instantly (or, at the very least, 40 seconds).

P.S. Yeah, WYST is too dumb to use any of his abilities and will likely fall for one of C00lkidd's clones. C00lkidd also has MFTL+ corruption speed, so if WYST keeps using too much brute force on him, he'll likely catch what's going on.

 

[Coolwriter2805]

Also, can you count my vote?

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Yeah, but he should have subsonic reaction speed as well considering he scales off of Shedletsky.

Who also has it as just Attack speed.

Also, can you count my vote?

I wasn't planning on continuing this after like the few replies before but alright then ig

 

[Coolwriter2805]

Who also has it as just Attack speed.

Well, I suppose he has higher scaling off of Elliot then.

I wasn't planning on continuing this after like the few replies before but alright then ig

Alrighty, thanks.

P.S. I'm pretty legitnothing is managing his forum account right now so maybe we can ping him once he's got one. He said there was some technical difficulties though.

 

[TheShape03]

My knowledge of Forsaken extends only to the game and the profiles here, but I'll still mention my concerns with what you said.

After a match ends, the killers are instantly teleported to their limbo before they are released like 40 seconds after the intermission. Also, not sure how that's supposed to help WYST. Like, okay, "we don't know how long that takes" but that's no reason to assume C00lkidd can't just come back.

When the killer returns after the intermission, aren't the players sent to a completely different map, with a (probably) different killer? I think the scenario you described requires us to assume the Spectre would send C00lkidd there again immediately after resurrecting him.

Also, since Eynooh didn't specify a location for the fight, SBA says it's Central Park, NY. The Spectre likely won't have any power there.

Also, doesn't C00lkidd have MFTL+ corruption speed?

They're both in character. Meaning they'll act as they normally do, and while I haven't played Forsaken in a while, I'm pretty sure I've never seen C00lkidd use Corruption offensively.

C00lkidd has subsonic reaction speed as well, so him dodging Gobble Bombs isn't impossible.

WYST is still (slightly) faster.

EDIT: I noticed that C00lkidd's subsonic speed is listed as Attack Speed, so WYST blitzes and one-shots him.

There's no BFR, but he can still use it because of C00l Carnival.

Why are we taking into account things that aren't in the profile and we don't have scans to prove it?

 

[Coolwriter2805]

When the killer returns after the intermission, aren't the players sent to a completely different map, with a (probably) different killer? I think the scenario you described requires us to assume the Spectre would send C00lkidd there again immediately after resurrecting him.

That's not exactly the point. The killers are INSTANTLY teleported to their personal limbo, so at the very LEAST it'd take 40 seconds for C00lkidd to come back. And yes, there's not other killers involved in the fight, so The Spectre likely just sends him back.

Also, since Eynooh didn't specify a location for the fight, SBA says it's Central Park, NY. The Spectre likely won't have any power there.

The Spectre doesn't need to be in its Digital Wasteland to control things, it can still affect things in the real world without any problem.

EDIT: I noticed that C00lkidd's subsonic speed is listed as Attack Speed, so WYST blitzes and one-shots him.

C00lkidd should also have subsonic reaction speed due to scaling off of lower-tiered characters like Elliot, so he can at least react to WYST and dodge him. The Walkspeed Override also comes in pretty handy.

Why are we taking into account things that aren't in the profile and we don't have scans to prove it?

Yeah, my bad. I concede on that.

 

[Coolwriter2805]

Alright, so here's what I'm thinking:

WYST:

• Probably has more versatile range
• Likely(?) faster lore-wise (in-game I'm not so sure)
• ... But he's too stupid to use any of his powers
• ... Gobble Bombs are still limited
• ... His attacks become predicatable

C00lkidd:

• Far more smarter and skilled
• Durability Negation via Walkspeed Override
• If he realizes that the Gobble Bombs are actually exploding around him and that it's actually doing damage to what's going on unlike the Subspace Tripmine which he has tanked in the past, then he'd likely develop a better workaround
• WYST has no counters to his invisibility
• Clones can just throw WYST off track
• Better weapons and range
• If by any chance he comes back to life via The Spectre, he's definetely gonna use the C00lgui and twist all the code around
• ... Physically weaker
• ... Less experienced

That's about it.

So I'm not really sure how WYST is gonna work around that Type 8 immortality. If anything, WYST can win by incap, but even after death, C00lkidd is sent to his personal limbo and can re-enter the fight whenever The Spectre feels like it. Additionally, if we're using them both to their fullest potential, this would mean that The Spectre would just "not let C00lkidd die" and keep sending him back into the arena.

 

[TheShape03]

That's not exactly the point. The killers are INSTANTLY teleported to their personal limbo, so at the very LEAST it'd take 40 seconds for C00lkidd to come back.

Since "personal limbo" is a dimension separate from the real world and C00lkidd only has Universal Range with his C00lgui, he couldn't return on his own (and he hasn't even been shown to use that ability in character).

And yes, there's not other killers involved in the fight, so The Spectre likely just sends him back.

Do you have any examples where the Spectre has acted similarly? If not, it seems like headcanon to me.

The Spectre doesn't need to be in its Digital Wasteland to control things, it can still affect things in the real world without any problem.

So, at least the Spectre, should have interdimensional range.

C00lkidd should also have subsonic reaction speed due to scaling off of lower-tiered characters like Elliot, so he can at least react to WYST and dodge him. The Walkspeed Override also comes in pretty handy.

Forsaken profiles really need fixing. Most have that listed as attack speed, and Elliot's profile lacks scans showing him reacting to John Doe's spikes.

• Durability Negation via Walkspeed Override

The profile has no scans in that section, plus how is that supposed to be Durability Negation?

• WYST has no counters to his invisibility

C00lkidd does not have Invisibility in his profile, I suppose it is because of scaling from 007n7 or something like that, however it would not be valid to take it into account since it is not something that C00lkidd uses in character, not to mention that it only lasts a few seconds.

• Clones can just throw WYST off track

Building level clones would be like ants against a City level+ WYST.

Additionally, if we're using them both to their fullest potential, this would mean that The Spectre would just "not let C00lkidd die" and keep sending him back into the arena.

Well, it has no problem letting him die in any round of the game. What would cause it to have the idea of sending him back against someone like WYST, whom it doesn't know and has no reason to want dead?

So I'm not really sure how WYST is gonna work around that Type 8 immortality.

WYST doesn't need to nullify Type 8 immortality; he needs to kill C00lkidd, and he'd win. Since C00lkidd doesn't have the necessary range to return on his own, and the Spectre has no reason to bring him back to fight WYST.

 

[Coolwriter2805]

Building level clones would be like ants against a City level+ WYST.

Wait, so where did the 58 megaton scans come from? Niloticus' page? Because it's very vague. I don't remember there being a Tsar Bomba in PC2, especially if the Doom Gauntlet (which is High 8-C) can deal knockback to Niloticus himself.

 

[Coolwriter2805]

Like, it feels so largely interpretational. We hardly have any knowledge of Nico's creators, aside from the fact that they owned a nuclear power plant, but we don't really hear from them that often, nor do we know if they launched one of their nukes. It's purely theoretical.

 

[TheShape03]

I don't think this is the place to discuss that, but since FC/OC doesn't have properly implemented CRTs, I don't mind discussing it.

Wait, so where did the 58 megaton scans come from? Niloticus' page? Because it's very vague.

The statement isn't vague. Niloticus is declared indestructible from a human perspective, indicating that it cannot be harmed by anything within human reach, and that statement is later reinforced by the fact that it cannot be harmed by human weapons. Nuclear bombs are weapons and are made by humans, so they fall under that umbrella.

If you disagree, you have to demonstrate why that statement is wrong or it doesn't include nuclear weapons.

I don't remember there being a Tsar Bomba in PC2

The standard reasoning is that any fictional Earth is comparable to the real one unless otherwise stated, considering that they are always based on the real Earth, have similar physics, and contain elements or concepts unique to the real Earth.

Occam's razor supports this, since suggesting otherwise requires many more assumptions. MX's Bestiary page also describes the world of Pillar Chase 2 as "the world we know," which also supports the idea that its Earth is directly based on ours as we know it.

especially if the Doom Gauntlet (which is High 8-C) can deal knockback to Niloticus himself

The Gauntlet's AP isn't limited to that; it's just a calculation based on KE. It could very well go up to 7-B because of that, not to mention that the weapon doesn't even damage Niloticus, so it doesn't contradict that statement in the slightest (There is also the fact that it is unknown whether the weapons used in PC2 were made by humans or not).

 

[Coolwriter2805]

Niloticus is declared indestructible from a human perspective, indicating that it cannot be harmed by anything within human reach, and that statement is later reinforced by the fact that it cannot be harmed by human weapons. Nuclear bombs are weapons and are made by humans, so they fall under that umbrella.

I think the context of the entry was that it was declared indestructible by the power plant it originated from. MX's statements really don't hold much water either, it's just trying to describe the physical world.

Either way, you make good points. I think WYST has a chance to maybe incap(?) C00lkidd.

 

[Coolwriter2805]

Wait, but doesn't is state that WYST or C00lkidd need to win by Death? If WYST can't incap C00lkidd, then could they still technically win?

 

[TheShape03]

Wait, but doesn't is state that WYST or C00lkidd need to win by Death? If WYST can't incap C00lkidd, then could they still technically win?

The OP says that Victory can be by Incapacitation, Death or BFR. If WYST kills C00lkidd and C00lkidd doesn't return to the battle site, I guess it counts.

Perhaps the most appropriate thing would be to ask Eynooh, but I think he doesn't plan to continue with this thread.

-Victory via Incap, Death or BFR

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Perhaps the most appropriate thing would be to ask Eynooh, but I think he doesn't plan to continue with this thread.

She*

But not that I don't want it to continue, but it's cuz I just care about this as much.

anyways as it's said in the OP
Victory via Incap, Death or BFR

 

[Coolwriter2805]

The OP says that Victory can be by Incapacitation, Death or BFR. If WYST kills C00lkidd and C00lkidd doesn't return to the battle site, I guess it counts.

Would it still be possible for C00lkidd to juke WYST around? Considering C00lkidd isn't going to see WYST as a Robloxian so he'd likely use fight or flight with his clones? If so, it'd be incon

 

[Uradial50]

Okay, As a Forsaken Fan. I don't really see WSYT Winning?
You can deeply argue c00lkidd being Universal with MFTL+ (according to c00lkidd profile) with c00lgui which he uses himself to amp?
which WSYT is gonna have a massive problem with.

 

[Uradial50]

uh ionno did this for fun because of this

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeathBattleMatchups/s/t1fj6SJnsy

but I kinda wanna see if this is a stomp or not

-Victory via Incap, Death or BFR
-C00lkidd has his C00lgui ig
-WYST Key is Used
-Both are in Character

A DELICIOUS SNACK INDEED!!!: @TheShape03
Scales to 58 Megatons Physically
Scales to 108.000000043 m/s

team c00lkidd join today!: @Coolwriter2805
Scales to 10686138.5974 Joules
Scales to Baseline Superhuman Speed

Incon:

Pretty sure you can get c00lkidd universal with MFTL+ with c00lgui... (I can argue higher tho)

 

[Uradial50]

I know C00lkidd is immortal and can be resurrected by The Spectre, but how long that takes is unknown, so he'd still lose the fight.

wdym its unknown?
its literally an instant after his death or the survivors death.
unless you argue he would resurrect after 2-4 minutes

 

[Uradial50]

lol, I only did this cuz the same person who made that reddit thing also did a blog and gave CoolKidd the win high diff

they did give some wincons and shit, like c00lkid's death manipulation (which suspiciously doesn't have any scans and doesn't seem to be smth that our the FC/oc pfp has, which they actually used the FC/oc scaling for both verses), C00lkidd having better combat despite weaker stats
Wyst probably would toy with CoolKidd thus not being able to to utilize his superior stat and being too dumb

but the blog kinda went oof
when they started scaling the characters to they're original non pillar chase counterparts
Scaling C00lkidd to the actual C00lkidd that did the actual hackings
and when they scaled WYST Getting Slammed into Earth's surface to city level, etc etc
and while I do disagree with uni Forsaken as a whole (Personally believe that C00lkidd making C00L Carnival is just Him making the carnival not the Actual entire Realm, and not believing The Roblox games being actually universes, but I can't stop anyone)


Actual I might as well Send the goofy Blog in this thread since it's related to this anyways

C00lkidd vs WYST blog

WYST vs C00lkidd VS blog! WYST, the soul eating monster of Pillar Chase 2 And C00lkidd, the playful exploiter of Forsaken Roblox, a platform full to the brim of creativity, full of games of every genre. And these two playful adversaries come from roblox's most popular asymmetrical horror ga...

docs.google.com

The Blog was confirmed to use "cross scaling" as in from other series which isn't canon or offical whatsoever

 

[Coolwriter2805]

Pretty sure you can get c00lkidd universal with MFTL+ with c00lgui... (I can argue higher tho)

Wait, wdym by "higher?"

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

I should just change the ******* title of this to "The OP doesn't wanna continue this anymore because it's clear that besides the forsaken side, me and like the other people for the PC2 Side dont even chat in this matchup

 

[Coolwriter2805]

Is it okay for me to host this matchup again by any chance?

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Is it okay for me to host this matchup again by any chance?

eh, considering the fact I sent this in the PC2 discussion thread before and no one answered and even theshape didn't reply back
I doubt anyone in the PC2 Side would want to do this Matchup.

 

[Coolwriter2805]

Oh, well that's a shame. Seemed like a really good MU for WYST.

 

[Uradial50]

Wait, wdym by "higher?"

Like low multiversal via c00lkidd affecting the roblox games which are universes in robloxia with c00lgui, which he uses to amp himself with. I might give those arguments to the guy who made the profiles of the forsaken scaling?

 

[Uradial50]

Oh, well that's a shame. Seemed like a really good MU for WYST.

I have a matchup for c00lkidd i made which i am currently making a vs blog however you guys wouldnt be familiar with him anyway