Because you're trying to correlate a multiplier based on the logic of how SSJ1-3 works.
No it doesn't, can you point to the part I said that or demonstrate why it would ONLY EVER have a correlation if Golden Oozaru was a direct powerup from SSJ3?
Except it's not unrelated, it's explicitly a combination of
Oozaru and Super Saiyan (which
2-3 are just powered up forms of)
| Chouzenshuu 4 page 139 | Translation |
|---|
大猿化派生技:黄金大猿化☆
[医] 能力
[人] 悟空、ベジータ、ベジータベビー
[特] 『DBGT』に登場。
超サイヤ人が満月と同等のブルーツ波を浴びることで、黄金の大猿に変身する。凶暴化し理性を失うが、黄金大猿の状態で理性を取り戻すことで超サイヤ人4へと変化することができる。尻尾を再生した悟空が、太陽光を反射した地球から放出されるブルーツ波を浴びて変身。ベジータとベジータベビーは超ブルーツ波増幅装置を使用して人工的に黄金大猿化した。 | Oozaru Transformation Derivative Technique: Golden Oozaru Transformation
[Cat.] Ability
[Peo.] Son Goku, Vegeta, Vegeta Baby
[Par.] When a Super Saiyan is exposed to Bruits Waves equal to that of a full moon, they transform into a golden giant monkey. They become ferocious and lose all reason, but by regaining their reason as a Golden Oozaru, they can transform into a Super Saiyan 4. Goku, who regenerated his tail, by being bathed in Bruits Waves from sunlight reflected off the Earth while Vegeta and Vegeta Baby artificially became Golden Oozarus using the Super Bruits Wave Amplifying Machine. |
Literally using the logic of it being connected to SSJ would in fact limit the buff to SSJ3 levels because SSJ3 is a powered up variation of SSJ, as in, the sequential nature of the forms being from an evolved root.
If he's permanently SB2 (his SSJ3 equivalent) and he's going Oozaru on top of that (as Golden Oozaru is explicitly SSJ+Oozaru, as per Chouzenshuu 4's description) then the multiplier he'd get is 8x Golden Oozaru, as that's the gap between SSJ1 and SSJ3.
Same here.
While I may word it differently, that is the crux of your argument.
You mean like how
the same description is given for Super Saiyan 3??? Heck, you can make a solid case for every transformation working like this, considering how Gohan's Ultimate form is supposed to be
a variant of Super Saiyan 2 which he
activates the same way as he does SSJ, and even his regular SSJ2 is called his
'true form' by Cell.
"Ultimate Form is a variant of SSJ2."
That's blatantly not what it says. It says:
"GOHAN-TYPE: This Type is also called Ultimate Gohan. While his appearance doesn't change much from his normal state, his power surpasses Super Saiyan 2. He's a Saiyan who has achieved a Super Form
different from a Super Saiyan, which puts a large strain on the body."
The only way to get your conclusion is to look at the picture and ignore how the words literally contradict your claim.
SSJ3 has a stated multiplier on top of it's ordinary description, so they simply aren't the same.
This is also putting aside the fact that you ignored the point being made entirely, and are now making a completely NEW point on top of it. The point you've been trying to argue for is that because Golden Oozaru is a "different species" (more on this later) and because Baby maintains SB2 at all times that we should stack the full multipliers of both forms FROM BASE on top of one another, in a similar way to how SSJGxSSJ=SSJB. If Golden Oozaru already involves the Super Saiyan transformation, then you cannot say Baby stacking it on top of SB2 gives him a powerup quantifiably beyond 8x at best.
No? Because Super Saiyan's relevant mechanics in the form aren't explained beyond the fact it is a prereq to attain the form.
I started writing this response before you made your new post, but let's look at what the same guide says from
your own imgur gallery.
Golden fur = evolved from Super Saiyan you say?
Looks golden to me.
You're right. It is golden. So the form is evolved from Super Saiyan. Hm. Except that doesn't change the litany of points I made before, how this passage literally implies it's the combination of forms, what we observe literally happen, how your conclusion literally cannot work mathematically, and how your point isn't supported beyond the fact it is a type of Super Saiyan, which we already knew, because SSJ was the Prereq to getting the form. It is a "Separate Species" of transformation, a separate species of Super Saiyan. This does not change anything.
Furthermore, to reiterate, the idea that it's limited to an 8x buff, working off SSJ3 logic, simply doesn't work. As I pointed out earlier, Baby and Goku's Golden Oozaru forms are identical outside of the fact Baby has SB2 on top of his. The gap between Goku and Baby is literally too big, because the numbers port over directly between them. And the fact the gap is bigger than that is supported in the show itself, because it's outright stated that the amp from
Fusion plus SSJ3 for Goten and Trunks would not be enough to even faze Baby's power as a Golden Oozaru, and that SSJ4 is the straight up superior power.
Regardless, we're going in circles and backing up Ednaxel's thread. I merely appeared to contextualize why the multiplier existed as it does, how that argument was brought up and considered invalid in the multiplier's application, and that it is not a typo. Staff can decide if it is still accurate or not based on my and your points (because we're relying on them to apply this thread anyway) and the blog will change to suit that.
