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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

AlexSamDen said:
Well Diablo is an example of his pre-activated magic partially stopping michael's attack, so this means that passives in tensura do work against imme. The reason fir the question is that A doesn't have anything against Rimuru's passives
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Well pre activated magic is not exactly a passive but magic created before a certain amount of time that can be used at anytime.
 
MetaChronos said:
I’ll give an example. Let’s say ainz is facing a human. But ainz max speed is human speed and that human can go at imme speed. That human can’t affect ainz in any way as ainz resists all his attacks. If he enters ainz instant death radius, he will be gone unless he resists that skill to that extent. If any other case, draw.
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The point is that this is a thing:

Matches in which characters with Immeasurable speed lose against non-immeasurable passive abilities would likewise not be added, as the Immeasurable characters would normally be faster than the instantaneous passives

So I'm trying to prove that in tensura passives work against imme
 
AlexSamDen said:
The point is that this is a thing:

Matches in which characters with Immeasurable speed lose against non-immeasurable passive abilities would likewise not be added, as the Immeasurable characters would normally be faster than the instantaneous passives
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This is true in all cases except the one where the passive is strong enough to stop the attacker in his tracks or kill him. Let’s say this: alien x is facing hajun. Let’s restrict hajun speed to normal speed. Hajun will win no matter what as his tumor has a higher range of 1-A while alien x range is 1-B. As soon as alien x enters this range, he will be erased. No matter of speed.
AlexSamDen said:
So I'm trying to prove that in tensura passives work against imme
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Passives work against imme in tensura and all places, only they’re not strong enough to make that much of a difference. Imme character will not be able to do anything as character B resist everything, but since in tensura passives are not strong enough to incapacitate someone almost equal to them physically or mentally, they won’t be able to do anything to imme.
 
There is one thing i want to know. Is rimuru's profile and all the characters or tensura's profile restricted to volume 20? Can we use Edited MTL translations or give japanese translations along with MTL and edited MTL translations (personal) to upgrade the character past volume 20?
 
Wait a second, I just realised that for Granbell and Damrada we need to make a "Masayuki's summon" key, as in volume 19 it was stated that summoned heroes have the same nature as DLF
 
I'm curious to see how the big battle against the Eastern Empire will be animated because there's so much going on at once between Rimuru fighting Veldora and Velgrynd and the battles in the Labyrinth
 
MetaChronos said:
He used an ability to travel. doesn't matter if he could interact with something as it is still and ability even if he was physically moving in that ability. Since abilities don't count for speed, it is not necessary.
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Wait, but shouldn't he get imme perception, due to perceiving the EOTAS and also due to Ciel actually picking the time and place to return, basically perceiving all times
 
AlexSamDen said:
Wait, but shouldn't he get imme perception, due to perceiving the EOTAS and also due to Ciel actually picking the time and place to return, basically perceiving all times
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The reason why ciel was able to pick up the time and place was because of nihility supply and their subordinates. Perceiving EOTAS does count for something as it is also a place beyond time but some people might say it is like one of those time voids, although I disagree, it should at least give infinite speed for rimuru. Imme perception is not as useful as he can already perceive info particles, which are beyond time and space anyways.
 
MetaChronos said:
The reason why ciel was able to pick up the time and place was because of nihility supply and their subordinates. Perceiving EOTAS does count for something as it is also a place beyond time but some people might say it is like one of those time voids, although I disagree, it should at least give infinite speed for rimuru. Imme perception is not as useful as he can already perceive info particles, which are beyond time and space anyways.
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It's useful in vs vattles against imme characters
 
AlexSamDen said:
It's useful in vs vattles against imme characters
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I mean you can just use IP. They are beyond space and time. Can be transferred to anywhere in time. IP alone counts for imme but for characters, it depends on feats and their control over IP. But perceiving IP should be imme perception.
 
MetaChronos said:
I mean you can just use IP. They are beyond space and time. Can be transferred to anywhere in time. IP alone counts for imme but for characters, it depends on feats and their control over IP. But perceiving IP should be imme perception.
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Then this should be on profile, rn he has ftl perception
 
Prolly just make a proposal for infinite and immeasurable and see which one sticks. I can see infinite
 
AlexSamDen said:
Wait a second, I just realised that for Granbell and Damrada we need to make a "Masayuki's summon" key, as in volume 19 it was stated that summoned heroes have the same nature as DLF
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I found what it is called: Einherjar (also for Kondou)
 
AlexSamDen said:
Then this should be on profile, rn he has ftl perception
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Yes they should. But since there are not too many supporters for the thread at the moment, focus on quick upgrades, that cannot be debated anyways. Later, after a little, we can go for the big upgrades, after OTL and all that.
 
MetaChronos said:
Yes they should. But since there are not too many supporters for the thread at the moment, focus on quick upgrades, that cannot be debated anyways. Later, after a little, we can go for the big upgrades, after OTL and all that.
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Well, that's probably only the things I already mentioned, plus probably Middrey upgrade, based on his perfomance in vol 20 ch1
Edit: I somewhy thought he has a profile
 
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Community_Gamer said:
Yeah Ciel having Cosmic Awareness on such a level was quite interesting. Also hiding secrets of the world and hidden abilities too.
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Wait, but wouldn't that give her a 2B-2A range, due to the statement that you cannot directly track the world and to find the world of origin you need to look through all worlds one by one
 
AlexSamDen said:
Wait, but wouldn't that give her a 2B-2A range, due to the statement that you cannot directly track the world and to find the world of origin you need to look through all worlds one by one
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Yeah potentially. Especially if her range really extends across the cosmology (which I kinda doubt but its possible)
 
Community_Gamer said:
What's your guy's opinion on this scaling? Idk if ok to post other wiki links here
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Rare for you to do this, but i don't think Gs is same level as God
Community_Gamer said:
An interview with Ciel and Rimuru from Tensura X. Idk if its been translated before but some pretty interesting stuff said here.

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That means she's always had cosmic awareness just by volume 22 it becomes too overpowered
 
Community_Gamer said:
Moving so fast that you arrive before you left.
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isnt it exactly the same as velgrynd, masayuki got transported first in the otherworld(after seeing velgrynd for the first time when velgrynd was searching for soul fragment) before velgrynd got her cthugha US or did masayuki just got transported in the past(different point of time) of the otherworld
 
ZERGESS said:
isnt it exactly the same as velgrynd, masayuki got transported first in the otherworld(after seeing velgrynd for the first time when velgrynd was searching for soul fragment) before velgrynd got her cthugha US or did masayuki just got transported in the past(different point of time) of the otherworld
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Velgrynd is using a skill to travel between worlds
 
I have a question. Rimuru has law manipulation, probability manipulation etc etc. But does he have anything to go against plot manipulation?
 
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