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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

Community_Gamer said:
Isn't pretty much blatantly said to switching coordinates or teleporting between information particles? Maybe I misunderstood
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Rimuru and ciel metioned that teleportation is possible in SW when they were talking about how veldora can go to damargania on time(he literally did teleport) but the movement of the information particles is not teleportation .they said spartial coordinate information can be obtained via the information particles which are moving around
During Time Stop, ‘Spatial Transportation’ was basically impossible because it required
flying information particles to understand the surrounding information. Although it was possible
to move them within a visible range, it was meaningless because it would be faster to move
normally. This was because, regardless of the distance, the coordinates of the destination had
to be read by interfering with the information particles. If the information particles had to be
moved back and forth, it would be faster for me to just move. In this case, even if I went to the
rescue right now, Dagruel would have finished his complete control of the area before I could
reach Lubelius.
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Yeah like I said before based on the scans I saw, infinite speed seemed fine ish though I'd wanna catch up on the LN fully before making a final call
 
I don't see the info particles being above infinite speed for some reason. They can move in stopped time, that gives infinite speed. Immeasurable means you can move to any point to time, beginning of time or end of time (range). I think people will mention it as an anti-feat when rimuru didn't use info particles to come back from end of space and time. If that can be countered, I'm all for immeasurable.
 
Rimuru didn't get out of there using it, but while at it, Ciel sent information to Shuna, so that can give it immeasurable. And info particles are stated to move to any point of time. The anti feat was that they don't use this speed outside of SW
 
AlexSamDen said:
Rimuru didn't get out of there using it, but while at it, Ciel sent information to Shuna, so that can give it immeasurable. And info particles are stated to move to any point of time. The anti feat was that they don't use this speed outside of SW
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I mean to say there were 2 main anti feats that i noticed. 1 was not able to use this speed outside the SW. 2 was not able to return from EOTAS using info particles. other than these i'm pretty sure they didn't even care about any other arguments.
 
AlexSamDen said:
Couldn't really understsnd your reply, can you elaborate
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MetaChronos said:
2 was not able to return from EOTAS using info particles. other than these i'm pretty sure they didn't even care about any other arguments.
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Well, info particles can transfer themselves as long as there are IP at the place and time you want to move to, but are there info particles in a destroyed world. I think this can be used to counter that, it's also can be implied as that, because when Rimuru was trying to interact with space in EOTAS, it didn't react even to IP
 
Actually, due to Rimuru actually physically leaping from EOTAS (he did bump into Mai, which implies that it isn't standart time travel or teleportation), shouldn't this be considered immeasureable?
 
Community_Gamer said:
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Well, and OP said that they were teleporting, when there is even a statement in vol 19 of them bumping
 
AlexSamDen said:
Actually, due to Rimuru actually physically leaping from EOTAS (he did bump into Mai, which implies that it isn't standart time travel or teleportation), shouldn't this be considered immeasureable?
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He used an ability to travel. doesn't matter if he could interact with something as it is still and ability even if he was physically moving in that ability. Since abilities don't count for speed, it is not necessary.
 
MetaChronos said:
He used an ability to travel. doesn't matter if he could interact with something as it is still and ability even if he was physically moving in that ability. Since abilities don't count for speed, it is not necessary.
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But shouldn't this be mentioned in the profile anyways?
 
I have one question. If the ability is in tensura.fandom.com and it is something like probability manipulation (this is just an example), does that mean i can add it in the profile or should i get scans for that as well.
 
AlexSamDen said:
Actually, due to Rimuru actually physically leaping from EOTAS (he did bump into Mai, which implies that it isn't standart time travel or teleportation), shouldn't this be considered immeasureable?
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Travel speed maybe, but it's not necessary since, its actually an ability and not his physical speed
MetaChronos said:
I'll ask this here first. Can someone add Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation, and Dimensional Manipulation to Shion. She has Spacetime Manipulation as one of her abilities here. Spacetime Manipulation has sub skills which include Dimensional Fault (A form of dimensional Manipulation), Time Warp (Time Manipulation), and Instant Motion (Spatial Manipulation). She gets this ability after awakening her ultimate skill Susanoo.
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Lets wait for volume 21 OTL to be released
MetaChronos said:
I have one question. If the ability is in tensura.fandom.com and it is something like probability manipulation (this is just an example), does that mean i can add it in the profile or should i get scans for that as well.
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You need a full fledge CRT to add any ability no matter how justified it is. Someone from this fandom got banned for doing this
 
Mizuki67 said:
Lets wait for volume 21 OTL to be released
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I thought the translation was quite direct though. I sent the raw japanese translation, the kanji and JMDict for the sentence are also quite similar. Do we really have to wait until OTL comes out.
Mizuki67 said:
You need a full fledge CRT to add any ability no matter how justified it is. Someone from this fandom got banned for doing this
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Bruh... Who put such a stupid rule bruh
 
MetaChronos said:
I thougt the translation was quite direct though. I sent the raw japanese translation, the kanji and JMDict for the sentence are also quite similar. Do we really have to wait until OTL comes out.
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Idk why, since the downgrade discarded the OTL, i feel we should justify our upgrades with TL from the staffs
 
There is one thing i don't understand. Moving finite distances in stopped time/0 time is infinite speed. But there is also something called time stop resistance. Stopped time is one of the only places where time is 0. Don't these 2 things just contradict each other.
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
Something simple would be just adding spells.
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@Dark_Soul20189 could you tell me how this works.
MetaChronos said:
There is one thing i don't understand. Moving finite distances in stopped time/0 time is infinite speed. But there is also something called time stop resistance. Stopped time is one of the only places where time is 0. Don't these 2 things just contradict each other.
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Ok just figured it out. So along with the previously mentioned abilities
MetaChronos said:
I'll ask this here first. Can someone add Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation, and Dimensional Manipulation to Shion. She has Spacetime Manipulation as one of her abilities here. Spacetime Manipulation has sub skills which include Dimensional Fault (A form of dimensional Manipulation), Time Warp (Time Manipulation), and Instant Motion (Spatial Manipulation). She gets this ability after awakening her ultimate skill Susanoo.
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Shion should also be scaled to infinite speed. She could move in the suspended world. She did this without stuff like information particles but simply by adapting. And no, this is not time stop resistance. It is already stated that if you can move in the suspended world, then there is no point in stopping time. So, this is not just limited to the and ability based time stop like the SW but stopped time in general. So, infinite speed because moving finite distance in 0 time.
 
MetaChronos said:
That is all for the upgrades of Shion I have for now. I'll upgrade attack potency sometime later. First i have to wait and see if these upgrades are good or not. @Mizuki67, @PrimeHydra64, @Lycoris4812 could you guys check these upgrades once. They are small upgrades. Few added abilities and speed upgrade.
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I'm fine with spatial manipulation and time manipulation but dimensional manipulation has to be more explained because all we know of multi dimensional barrier is that it surpasses absolute barrier and uses dimensional faults to achieve this and my problem is that the OTL replaces spatial stuff with dimensional stuff like how Spatial Domination is replaced with Dimensional Control even though the correct one is the former. Time Warp and Instant Motion are separate from space-time manipulation.

And we have to prove that speed is infinite via moving in stopped time because of the immeasurable speed downgrade so infinite speed should be fair game.

Keep in mind, We have a new rule meaning we can't use MTL unless it is checked by Translators on site, so we have to wait for the OTL of Volume 21 or Check it in the Translation Help Thread.
 
PrimeHydra64 said:
I'm fine with spatial manipulation and time manipulation but dimensional manipulation has to be more explained because all we know of multi dimensional barrier is that it surpasses absolute barrier and uses dimensional faults to achieve this and my problem is that the OTL replaces spatial stuff with dimensional stuff like how Spatial Domination is replaced with Dimensional Manipulation even though the correct one is the former. Time Warp and Instant Motion are separate from space-time manipulation.
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I didn’t know that. I’ll check that later. But strictly based on the tensura.fandom definition, that sub skill should prove for dimensional analysis imo.
PrimeHydra64 said:
And we have to prove that speed is infinite via moving in stopped time because of the immeasurable speed downgrade so infinite speed should be fair game.
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Their arguments were related to info particles. Shown doesn’t use info particles. She adapts her being to be able to move in suspended world. Potentially infinite speed, but probably taxing on her quite a bit.
PrimeHydra64 said:
Keep in mind, We have a new rule meaning we can't use MTL unless it is checked by Translators on site, so we have to wait for the OTL of Volume 21 or Check it in the Translation Help Thread.
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will do.
 
MetaChronos said:
Ok just figured it out. So along with the previously mentioned abilities

Shion should also be scaled to infinite speed. She could move in the suspended world. She did this without stuff like information particles but simply by adapting. And no, this is not time stop resistance. It is already stated that if you can move in the suspended world, then there is no point in stopping time. So, this is not just limited to the and ability based time stop like the SW but stopped time in general. So, infinite speed because moving finite distance in 0 time.
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She didn't adapt necessarily, she copied dagruel
 
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