Arthur Leywin Upgrade/Corrections

[Korf3ll]

Hello

New CRT with some upgrade/Corrections/additions for Arthur Leywin. The topic here is his hax and his range in a fight.

Some corrections/additions (up to volume 11)

"My gaze flashed to Caera as I felt the oppressive aura of her soulfire, which cloaked her blade in black flame. She swung wide, bisecting three aether golems. The soulfire around her weapon spread through the center of the aetheric beings, eating away the captured snow and ice. However, I could still see the purplish mists, and they were already collecting snow from the ground to fashion themselves new bodies."

Also here they are the complet scan

• About this, it was set previoulsy as Regeneration Negation : High (because Arthur PN Aether Golem's Regeneration) But in fact it's more like : Conceptual Manipulation type 2 usement (a new possible application of this power) and also Immortality type 8 Negation (high) because with his Aether attack he was able to disallow the golem to take their Regeneration. Those Golem Regeneration are based on the Environnement and Arthur cut this bound by destroying the source of this immortality itself. Thought that it's better than Regeneration Negation .

For conceptual manipulation (type 2), the aim here is not to gain acceptance for the ability, since all Arthur's abilities are conceptual manipulation type 2, having arrived at his Aether core because he uses only Aether as a source of power -> this Aether is a type 2 concept. Here i just show a new possible application/execution for his cm2 manip

This is for God Step's range.

Panel here. (WN volume 9)

-> We know that he supervised the Victoriad by escaping from the stadium using God Step. Concerning the official information: the Victoriad stadium is 219 meters long, then we know from this panel that his landing point was in a place where he was alone with Alaric and there were trees around. Knowing that the Victoriad is an attractive event, it's logical that the surrounding area should be full of people, especially as the stadium has been half-destroyed and Arthur is sought after by the whole of Alacrya, Arthur's landing point should be a long way from the Victoriad stadium. It's probably at least several kilometers away, if not dozens of kilometers if it's outside the city. That's because he's in an area with no real habitation and he's on the run.

I'd put his God Step range at a minimum of 10km.

Then in AC3 he gains a multiplier of 10 on the potential of all his stats as he has more ether and as God Step works with aether consumption he can go at least 10 times further than before so the range goes up to 100km. It could go even further, because when Arthur crashed, it was after facing Nico and Cadell, and his ether reserves were low. Right now with godstep ehanced it could be far higher than before again.

So in AC2 : kilometers to dozens of kilometers to higher, in AC3 : dozens of kilometers to hundreds of kilometers to higher

Now let's pass to some Volume 12 Additions.
-> It's not news abilities/haxs but just clearer uses of what he already had (Destruction and King Gambit), he didn't get them via power up but just via app or proven feat.

King's Gambit Additions :

• Self-Perception Manipulation : Thanks to the King's gambit, Arthur is able to increase his speed of thought and his senses to perceive elements that are usually unperceivable. Here Arthur with king gambit could be aware of space changing as he teleported (as he moved from point A to B), in short, his speed of perception was vastly superior to his basic form, as he could perceive landscape changes and the like. Note that King gambit for Arthur generally operates passively.

-> So in his profile we could put : MFTL+ (perception speed) blablabla, far higher with King Gambit

Destruction Additions :

• Resistence to Existence Erasure (body, mind, soul and all his erasure potency), Resistence to Power Nullification 5 layer (only for Destruction) Arthur is able to resist destruction (erasure of existence) if he covers himself with Destruction, in short Arthur if he covers himself with Destruction is immune to existence erasure on the aspects that Destruction erases. Also his destruction isn't nullfied by another destruction who have Resistence to existence erasure (body, mind, soul), Resistence to power nullification 5 layer)
  -> Edited part for this : "Resistence to EE" become Forcefied creation with Existence Erasure. In fact, the effects stay the same in a combat, Arthur could not be affectate by Destruction who's an Existence Erasure, Power Null and other stuffs. This forcefield is active and not passive (more precision). In the Volume 10 (during Wraiths fight), Arthur uses this skill to nullifie every mana based attack who go on him.
  
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[Korf3ll]

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[SweetDao]

I agree with suspicion

 

[ashen]

About this, it was set previoulsy as Regeneration Negation : High (because Arthur PN Aether Golem's Regeneration) But in fact it's more like : Conceptual Manipulation type 2 usement (a new possible application of this power) and also Immortality type 8 Negation (high) because with his Aether attack he was able to disallow the golem to take their Regeneration. Those Golem Regeneration are based on the Environnement and Arthur cut this bound by destroying the source of this immortality itself. Thought that it's better than Regeneration Negation .

Agree, seems simple enough.

King's Gambit Additions :

• Self-Perception Manipulation : Thanks to the King's gambit, Arthur is able to increase his speed of thought and his senses to perceive elements that are usually unperceivable. Here Arthur with king gambit could be aware of space changing as he teleported (as he moved from point A to B), in short, his speed of perception was vastly superior to his basic form, as he could perceive landscape changes and the like. Note that King gambit for Arthur generally operates passively.

-> So in his profile we could put : MFTL+ (perception speed) blablabla, far higher with King Gambit

same here.

Destruction Additions :

• Resistence to Existence Erasure (body, mind, soul and all his erasure potency), Resistence to Power Nullification 5 layer (only for Destruction) Arthur is able to resist destruction (erasure of existence) if he covers himself with Destruction, in short Arthur if he covers himself with Destruction is immune to existence erasure on the aspects that Destruction erases. Also his destruction isn't nullfied by another destruction who have Resistence to existence erasure (body, mind, soul), Resistence to power nullification 5 layer)
  
  -> This resistence work only for the ability itself and not Arthur directly. The only way for him to get the resistence is to cover himself with destruction. But it's not passive but active one (like his resistences to BFR and Time stop who are active and not passive)

Straightforward, agree with everything

 

[LiewtiStar]

Agree

 

[SODAKU]

Seems good

 

[Korf3ll]

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[Worthless]

Resistence to Existence Erasure (body, mind, soul and all his erasure potency), Resistence to Power Nullification 5 layer (only for Destruction) Arthur is able to resist destruction (erasure of existence) if he covers himself with Destruction, in short Arthur if he covers himself with Destruction is immune to existence erasure on the aspects that Destruction erases. Also his destruction isn't nullfied by another destruction who have Resistence to existence erasure (body, mind, soul), Resistence to power nullification 5 layer)

The Destruction surrounding me chewed on the Destruction attacking me, and the two opposing forces devoured each other.

This is not resistance, since he didn't resist it but rather overpowered it with another destruction. This should be power nullification instead

 

[Korf3ll]

This is not resistance, since he didn't resist it but rather overpowered it with another destruction. This should be power nullification instead

it's not really power nullification because he just put in opposition the two power. I count it as a resistance because he set himself with destruction all around his body and thanks to that he had resisted (not taking the effect of the EE) with the other destruction. As I see on the resistance page, it could be active just it must be specifie on the page. In all case EE, PN or resistance active to EE it's like the same thing.

 

[Worthless]

it's not really power nullification because he just put in opposition the two power. I count it as a resistance because he set himself with destruction all around his body and thanks to that he had resisted (not taking the effect of the EE) with the other destruction.

Yeah and that's not just resisting but overpowering it, thus neutralizing the attack. That's like covering yourself with Langris spatial magic (EE) and then claiming you're resistant to all magic.

As I see on the resistance page, it could be active just it must be specifie on the page.

I'm assuming it's referring to abilities that can block attacks like Asta anti magic armor, not ones that "eat" and overpower like his destruction does.

and the two opposing forces devoured each other.

 

[Korf3ll]

Yeah and that's not just resisting but overpowering it, thus neutralizing the attack. That's like covering yourself with Langris spatial magic (EE) and then claiming you're resistant to all magic.

I'm assuming it's referring to abilities that can block attacks like Asta anti magic armor, not ones that "eat" and overpower like his destruction does.

it's just the same effect, we saw it in volume 10, he can block every Wraith's attack (based on mana and energy manip), but he nullifie it in addition to resisting it. It work like that because he cover himself with Existence erasure spell. Anyway PN or Active reistances seems fine in all case.

 

[SweetDao]

it's just the same effect, we saw it in volume 10, he can block every Wraith's attack (based on mana and energy manip), but he nullifie it in addition to resisting it. It work like that because he cover himself with Existence erasure spell. Anyway PN or Active reistances seems fine in all case.

Forcefield creation + existence erasure...

 

[Korf3ll]

it's just the same effect, we saw it in volume 10, he can block every Wraith's attack (based on mana and energy manip), but he nullifie it in addition to resisting it. It work like that because he cover himself with Existence erasure spell. Anyway PN or Active reistances seems fine in all case.

i could also add forcefield creation with EE too

 

[SweetDao]

i could also add forcefield creation with EE too

no

 

[Bitllin12]

Yeah and that's not just resisting but overpowering it, thus neutralizing the attack. That's like covering yourself with Langris spatial magic (EE) and then claiming you're resistant to all magic.

I'm assuming it's referring to abilities that can block attacks like Asta anti magic armor, not ones that "eat" and overpower like his destruction does.

Asta covers himself in anti-magic to protect against magical attacks, but it's not that he's resistant to them—instead, he neutralizes the magic before it can touch him.

Regis was in the air again. He slammed into the quaking creature, gripping it just beneath one head and pulling the neck
back, revealing the deep wound he'd made during his last attack. His control over Destruction was keeping him safe, letting
him linger within the monstrosity's aura.

 

[Worthless]

it's just the same effect, we saw it in volume 10, he can block every Wraith's attack (based on mana and energy manip), but he nullifie it in addition to resisting it. It work like that because he cover himself with Existence erasure spell. Anyway PN or Active reistances seems fine in all case.

Not resistance

 

[Worthless]

Asta covers himself in anti-magic to protect against magical attacks, but it's not that he's resistant to them—instead, he neutralizes the magic before it can touch him.

You are confusing PDU and DU with TDU

 

[Korf3ll]

Not resistance

it's the same thing dude, as i said, i looked on the page resistances and Arthur with using Destruction could avoid to be affected by Destrcution's oppenent. A resisance work like that

 

[Worthless]

it's the same thing dude, as i said, i looked on the page resistances and Arthur with using Destruction could avoid to be affected by Destrcution's oppenent. A resisance work like that

That's not how resistance works. And on second thought, it's probably not power null either. It should be Forcefield Creation via EE, nothing more

 

[LiewtiStar]

I would still count it as resistance, I mean why would it not be resistance in first place? Even if you count it as some PN hax, that would still give him some resistance towards these kinds of attacks when using Destruction. Even Reinhard's resistances works that way if we look at his profile (same for a lot of other characters actually):

Resistance to:

• Sense Manipulation (His Divine Protection of Darkness Nullification nullifies 80% of Yin Magic, thus he resists Beatrice's Shamak)
• Time Stop (His Divine Protection of Darkness Nullification nullifies 80% of Yin Magic, thus he resists this ability from Beatrice)

 

[Worthless]

I would still count it as resistance, I mean why would it not be resistance in first place?

The Destruction surrounding me chewed on the Destruction attacking me, and the two opposing forces devoured each other.

This is by no means resistance. Again, this is literally like giving Langris resistance to all magic in BC with spatial magic (EE) activated. That’s how silly this is.

Even Reinhard's resistances works that way if we look at his profile (same for a lot of other characters actually):

Arthur feat is more about overpowering it than nullifying it, which is why I already dropped the argument. No matter what angle you look at it, it’s not resistance. Neither he nor his EE actually "resist" the opposing EE so I disagree.

 

[Korf3ll]

Hello

New CRT with some upgrade/Corrections/additions for Arthur Leywin. The topic here is his hax and his range in a fight.

Some corrections/additions (up to volume 11)


Also here they are the complet scan

• About this, it was set previoulsy as Regeneration Negation : High (because Arthur PN Aether Golem's Regeneration) But in fact it's more like : Conceptual Manipulation type 2 usement (a new possible application of this power) and also Immortality type 8 Negation (high) because with his Aether attack he was able to disallow the golem to take their Regeneration. Those Golem Regeneration are based on the Environnement and Arthur cut this bound by destroying the source of this immortality itself. Thought that it's better than Regeneration Negation .

For conceptual manipulation (type 2), the aim here is not to gain acceptance for the ability, since all Arthur's abilities are conceptual manipulation type 2, having arrived at his Aether core because he uses only Aether as a source of power -> this Aether is a type 2 concept. Here i just show a new possible application/execution for his cm2 manip

This is for God Step's range.

Panel here. (WN volume 9)

-> We know that he supervised the Victoriad by escaping from the stadium using God Step. Concerning the official information: the Victoriad stadium is 219 meters long, then we know from this panel that his landing point was in a place where he was alone with Alaric and there were trees around. Knowing that the Victoriad is an attractive event, it's logical that the surrounding area should be full of people, especially as the stadium has been half-destroyed and Arthur is sought after by the whole of Alacrya, Arthur's landing point should be a long way from the Victoriad stadium. It's probably at least several kilometers away, if not dozens of kilometers if it's outside the city. That's because he's in an area with no real habitation and he's on the run.

I'd put his God Step range at a minimum of 10km.

Then in AC3 he gains a multiplier of 10 on the potential of all his stats as he has more ether and as God Step works with aether consumption he can go at least 10 times further than before so the range goes up to 100km. It could go even further, because when Arthur crashed, it was after facing Nico and Cadell, and his ether reserves were low. Right now with godstep ehanced it could be far higher than before again.

So in AC2 : kilometers to dozens of kilometers to higher, in AC3 : dozens of kilometers to hundreds of kilometers to higher

Now let's pass to some Volume 12 Additions.
-> It's not news abilities/haxs but just clearer uses of what he already had (Destruction and King Gambit), he didn't get them via power up but just via app or proven feat.

King's Gambit Additions :

• Self-Perception Manipulation : Thanks to the King's gambit, Arthur is able to increase his speed of thought and his senses to perceive elements that are usually unperceivable. Here Arthur with king gambit could be aware of space changing as he teleported (as he moved from point A to B), in short, his speed of perception was vastly superior to his basic form, as he could perceive landscape changes and the like. Note that King gambit for Arthur generally operates passively.

-> So in his profile we could put : MFTL+ (perception speed) blablabla, far higher with King Gambit

Destruction Additions :

• Resistence to Existence Erasure (body, mind, soul and all his erasure potency), Resistence to Power Nullification 5 layer (only for Destruction) Arthur is able to resist destruction (erasure of existence) if he covers himself with Destruction, in short Arthur if he covers himself with Destruction is immune to existence erasure on the aspects that Destruction erases. Also his destruction isn't nullfied by another destruction who have Resistence to existence erasure (body, mind, soul), Resistence to power nullification 5 layer)
  -> Edited part for this : "Resistence to EE" become Forcefied creation with Existence Erasure. In fact, the effects stay the same in a combat, Arthur could not be affectate by Destruction who's an Existence Erasure, Power Null and other stuffs. This forcefield is active and not passive (more precision). In the Volume 10 (during Wraiths fight), Arthur uses this skill to nullifie every mana based attack who go on him.
  
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Based on the discussion, I edited the EE resistance and PN resistance -> to forcefield creation with EE.

 

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[Testarossa002]

About this, it was set previoulsy as Regeneration Negation : High (because Arthur PN Aether Golem's Regeneration) But in fact it's more like : Conceptual Manipulation type 2 usement (a new possible application of this power) and also Immortality type 8 Negation (high) because with his Aether attack he was able to disallow the golem to take their Regeneration. Those Golem Regeneration are based on the Environnement and Arthur cut this bound by destroying the source of this immortality itself. Thought that it's better than Regeneration Negation .

Could I get scans for the bolded section?

This is for God Step's range.

I agree that it's likely that far given how big TBATE's towns tend to be but 10km is very arbitrary

Self-Perception Manipulation

I don't know if that's a thing on this wiki but KG is definitely a reaction speed buff by at least 3x. I agree with adding it to his speed section at least.

Resistence to Existence Erasure (body, mind, soul and all his erasure potency), Resistence to Power Nullification 5 layer (only for Destruction) Arthur is able to resist destruction (erasure of existence) if he covers himself with Destruction, in short Arthur if he covers himself with Destruction is immune to existence erasure on the aspects that Destruction erases. Also his destruction isn't nullfied by another destruction who have Resistence to existence erasure (body, mind, soul), Resistence to power nullification 5 layer)

I agree with this
At worst, an unconventional resistance to EE

 

[Korf3ll]

Could I get scans for the bolded section?

yeah it was on the Imgur above, it's here

I agree that it's likely that far given how big TBATE's towns tend to be but 10km is very arbitrary

yeah 10km is like an high ball, it's at least kilometers just to jump out of the victoriad and somewhere enough to not get jumped by alacryan army. (he was around tree so probably in a forest beside the city). 10km is the low ball in AC3 because all his potency for Aether manip incrase by 10 times at least.

I don't know if that's a thing on this wiki but KG is definitely a reaction speed buff by at least 3x. I agree with adding it to his speed section at least.

It's perception manipulation (Hax linkedà but we could had "self" before (like conceptual destruction isn't a hax just a part of conceptual manipulation. It's the point on an application/usage?

 

[Korf3ll]

Could I get scans for the bolded section?

yeah it was on the Imgur above, it's here

I agree that it's likely that far given how big TBATE's towns tend to be but 10km is very arbitrary

yeah 10km is like an high ball, it's at least kilometers just to jump out of the victoriad and somewhere enough to not get jumped by alacryan army. (he was around tree so probably in a forest beside the city). 10km is the low ball in AC3 because all his potency for Aether manip incrase by 10 times at least

.

I don't know if that's a thing on this wiki but KG is definitely a reaction speed buff by at least 3x. I agree with adding it to his speed section at least.

It's perception manipulation (Hax linkedà but we could had "self" before (like conceptual destruction isn't a hax just a part of conceptual manipulation. It's the point on an application/usage?

 

[Makai641001]

Hello

New CRT with some upgrade/Corrections/additions for Arthur Leywin. The topic here is his hax and his range in a fight.

Some corrections/additions (up to volume 11)


Also here they are the complet scan

• About this, it was set previoulsy as Regeneration Negation : High (because Arthur PN Aether Golem's Regeneration) But in fact it's more like : Conceptual Manipulation type 2 usement (a new possible application of this power) and also Immortality type 8 Negation (high) because with his Aether attack he was able to disallow the golem to take their Regeneration. Those Golem Regeneration are based on the Environnement and Arthur cut this bound by destroying the source of this immortality itself. Thought that it's better than Regeneration Negation .

For conceptual manipulation (type 2), the aim here is not to gain acceptance for the ability, since all Arthur's abilities are conceptual manipulation type 2, having arrived at his Aether core because he uses only Aether as a source of power -> this Aether is a type 2 concept. Here i just show a new possible application/execution for his cm2 manip

This is for God Step's range.

Panel here. (WN volume 9)

-> We know that he supervised the Victoriad by escaping from the stadium using God Step. Concerning the official information: the Victoriad stadium is 219 meters long, then we know from this panel that his landing point was in a place where he was alone with Alaric and there were trees around. Knowing that the Victoriad is an attractive event, it's logical that the surrounding area should be full of people, especially as the stadium has been half-destroyed and Arthur is sought after by the whole of Alacrya, Arthur's landing point should be a long way from the Victoriad stadium. It's probably at least several kilometers away, if not dozens of kilometers if it's outside the city. That's because he's in an area with no real habitation and he's on the run.

I'd put his God Step range at a minimum of 10km.

Then in AC3 he gains a multiplier of 10 on the potential of all his stats as he has more ether and as God Step works with aether consumption he can go at least 10 times further than before so the range goes up to 100km. It could go even further, because when Arthur crashed, it was after facing Nico and Cadell, and his ether reserves were low. Right now with godstep ehanced it could be far higher than before again.

So in AC2 : kilometers to dozens of kilometers to higher, in AC3 : dozens of kilometers to hundreds of kilometers to higher

Now let's pass to some Volume 12 Additions.
-> It's not news abilities/haxs but just clearer uses of what he already had (Destruction and King Gambit), he didn't get them via power up but just via app or proven feat.

King's Gambit Additions :

• Self-Perception Manipulation : Thanks to the King's gambit, Arthur is able to increase his speed of thought and his senses to perceive elements that are usually unperceivable. Here Arthur with king gambit could be aware of space changing as he teleported (as he moved from point A to B), in short, his speed of perception was vastly superior to his basic form, as he could perceive landscape changes and the like. Note that King gambit for Arthur generally operates passively.

-> So in his profile we could put : MFTL+ (perception speed) blablabla, far higher with King Gambit

Destruction Additions :

• Resistence to Existence Erasure (body, mind, soul and all his erasure potency), Resistence to Power Nullification 5 layer (only for Destruction) Arthur is able to resist destruction (erasure of existence) if he covers himself with Destruction, in short Arthur if he covers himself with Destruction is immune to existence erasure on the aspects that Destruction erases. Also his destruction isn't nullfied by another destruction who have Resistence to existence erasure (body, mind, soul), Resistence to power nullification 5 layer)
  -> Edited part for this : "Resistence to EE" become Forcefied creation with Existence Erasure. In fact, the effects stay the same in a combat, Arthur could not be affectate by Destruction who's an Existence Erasure, Power Null and other stuffs. This forcefield is active and not passive (more precision). In the Volume 10 (during Wraiths fight), Arthur uses this skill to nullifie every mana based attack who go on him.
  
  That's all
  --------------------------
  Agree :

• ashen​

• SweetDao​

• LiewtiStar​

• SODAKU
  
  Neutral :
  
  Disagree :​

I agree with the corrections some users brought up.

(Ngl putting Layers on powernull itches me a bit)

 

[Laws_of_Thought]

Pretty consistent for the first haxs , and i don't think the layers upon the ee reistance should be considered as inconsistent reasoning there , that's pretty good imo.

 

[IvarUHQ]

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