Raiden Shogun vs Regulus Corneas

[ShadeyD]

Ei: @Shar122 @Furina003 @OmniScalator @Sahlwrld

Regulus: @Shey @VortechsTG @PedjaTarzan @SatellaTheWoE @StormAcci @Voidnether

Incon:

Starting distance 30 meters
Location takes place in Priestella

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

uh what can ei do to regulus when he goes "Unchangable"

 

[Shadowslash125]

Firstly, have we decided this for Regulus?

we're going to have to set a default precedence for how Regulus and his wives are going to work out in terms of position. Been reading through some Regulus threads and no one is able to make up their mind on whether his wives would be next to him or scattered throughout the main SBA area. This would allow shit to be clear for subsequent Regulus fights, especially in the scenarios where OPs don't clarify anything about his wives.

And then another regulus match.
Don't mind me, I'm only here to take notes.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Firstly, have we decided this for Regulus?

Nope. This needs to be added tbh.

 

[MSahla]

No speed equal?
Even though his speed is greater but what is he gonna do with this?

• Abstract Existence (Type 1 [Concept]; Raiden exists as a pure form of consciousness, with her Plane of Euthymia acting as an incarnation of her consciousness upon its creation. The Plane of Euthymia shares properties correspondent to the Realms of Consciousness which are abstract concepts stated by Yae Miko, therefore the Plane of Euthymia acts as Ei's Realm of Consciousness yet an incarnation of her own consciousness itself)

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Regulus can kill Spirits who can only die by having their Od destroyed (Od being an equivalent of a mind/soul)

Don't know how that would interact with AE type 1 since we haven't gotten to giving anybody that yet

He COULD just throw her to space though which would count as win via BFR

 

[AThe1412]

No speed equal?

Speed equalization would equalize Raiden's speed to Regulus' base speed instead of his speed with his Authority which means he'll blitz the absolute hell out of her.

 

[MSahla]

Speed equalization would equalize Raiden's speed to Regulus' base speed instead of his speed with his Authority which means he'll blitz the absolute hell out of her.

Can he even interact to AE Type 1 Concept and neg immo type 8&9?
What is he gonna blitz if he can't interact her, even Garou from OPM can't beat her bcs of this AE Type 1 (from previous Versus Battle Thread)

 

[Shar122]

Can he even interact to AE Type 1 Concept and neg immo type 8&9?
What is he gonna blitz if he can't interact her, even Garou from OPM can't beat her bcs of this AE Type 1 (from previous Versus Battle Thread)

he can't interact with concepts, he's cooked. Being a mind/soul ISN'T close to even a concept bruh.

 

[Shar122]

This Is a stomp in favor of Ei.

 

[MSahla]

he can't interact with concepts, he's cooked. Being a mind/soul ISN'T close to even a concept bruh.

We got this though..

• Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1; Ei preserved Raiden Makoto's realm of consciousness ever since her death 500 years ago. Yae Miko stated that Realms of Consciousness are very abstract concepts that exist outside the world of Teyvat. Even after Makoto's death and when her consciousness faded away, the domain of her Realm of Consciousness still remained intact. The Sacred Sakura Tree of Makoto's Realm of Consciousness rooted into Inazuma's past, thus its history, and absorbed the filth from the cataclysm that was imposed upon Inazuma)

 

[VortechsTG]

Regulus would just be fighting her puppet body though. Even if he can't kill her conciousness he can still destroy her body and render her unable to fight.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

This Is a stomp in favor of Ei.

Nah it isn't, Ei's type 1 CM only works in her realm. Not to mention, it doesn't work the way normal CM1 does in fact her CM1 even in her realm is so weak it legit cannot even stop Traveler from obtaining powers to defeat her (mind you, the power he obtains and the people/souls he gets it from are not anywhere near type 1 concepts) so that means even in her consciousness realm she won't be able to bypass Lions Heart at all.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

This is a stomp in favor of Regulus, even more of a stomp if his toggle type 5 acaus CRT gets accepted

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Regulus would just be fighting her puppet body though. Even if he can't kill her conciousness he can still destroy her body and render her unable to fight.

Also this, Ei can't do anything without the Puppet so defeat the puppet = GG

 

[Arkansalter2]

type 5 acaus CRT

HUHHH?
Gonna be REALLY hard for regulus to be matched with somebody if he has that.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

HUHHH?
Gonna be REALLY hard for regulus to be matched with somebody if he has that.

Yeah it will be if it gets accepted, but the CRT is still at a stand still with 1 staff agree and 1 staff disagree (though I don't know the specifics)

 

[Arkansalter2]

Yeah it will be if it gets accepted, but the CRT is still at a stand still with 1 staff agree and 1 staff disagree (though I don't know the specifics)

Ah. If it gets accepted, then he'd be the strongest 10-B.

 

[VortechsTG]

HUHHH?
Gonna be REALLY hard for regulus to be matched with somebody if he has that.

He has some pretty glaring weaknesses. It's essentially just an information game though. That's how it is in Re:Zero in the first place. Even with all the bullshit of Reinhard and Emilia, if you don't have the right information it doesn't matter.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Ngl a tier 11 with enough knowledge and a dura neg attack will neg Regulus hard

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Anyways, what's the wincon for Raiden

 

[MSahla]

Anyways, what's the wincon for Raiden

AE Type 1 Concept, Immo types 8&9 and several bunch of abilities from Archon Physiology.

 

[Furina003]

Is regulus able to interact with Ae1 based on the type 1 concept?
otherwise, it is clear that this fight will be won by the shogun.
to defeat the shogun you must kill ei, because the shogun has immortality type 8 and 9,
where ei is able to repair the shogun even though the shogun is completely destroyed.

 

[Shar122]

Is regulus able to interact with Ae1 based on the type 1 concept?
otherwise, it is clear that this fight will be won by the shogun.
to defeat the shogun you must kill ei, because the shogun has immortality type 8 and 9,
where ei is able to repair the shogun even though the shogun is completely destroyed.

From what I observed in his profile, He doesn't have any Concept type NPI. It's just incorporeal type NPI.

 

[Furina003]

From what I observed in his profile, He doesn't have any Concept type NPI. It's just incorporeal type NPI.

yeah, from here raiden just needs to do final calamity which has sub hax time stop, which will slash regulus body and space directly

 

[helello100]

Ah. If it gets accepted, then he'd be the strongest 10-B.

"non-smurf"

 

[helello100]

This is a stomp in favor of Regulus, even more of a stomp if his toggle type 5 acaus CRT gets accepted

How the hell he can have type 5 acausality when pandora yeeted his ass back to his home with casuality manipulation? Giga anti-feat.

 

[Shar122]

I'm just going to vote Ei at this point.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

How the hell he can have type 5 acausality when pandora yeeted his ass back to his home with casuality manipulation? Giga anti-feat.

Go and read the CRT, it's toggle for a reason. He can choose when he wants to be immune to causality, it's not an antifeat. Regardless, no point in derailing, Ei has no way to bypass lions heart, she's cooked. Reinhard will try to add her to his collection of wives, she'll do something stupid and get yeeted to space, or get air blown on her that destroys the puppet, GG. There are no counters for this lol

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Isnt Ei's immortality type 8 and 9 non combat applicable or smth, or can she just make a new puppet on the spot as soon as it gets destroyed

 

[PedjaTarzan]

It is, and the matchup is poo poo, genshin gets bullied by everyone because their hax is 90% non combat or just wrong (mainly elemental energy page)

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Also what stops Regulus from just grabbing her and yeeting her to deep space

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Also what stops Regulus from just grabbing her and yeeting her to deep space

matchup being closed

 

[Furina003]

try to explain how you say all genshin abilities can't be used in battle?

raiden even said she can replace them directly on the battlefield.

and fight when raiden shogun in their consciousness continues to regenerate endlessly until the fight lasts for 500 years

 

[Furina003]

Raiden even has a BFR that can pull Regulus into a realm of consciousness which is a type 1 conceptual world. If Regulus has entered a world that he can't even interact with, how will he win?

 

[ShadeyD]

Regulus has prevented dimensional BFR from affecting him, not sure if he could deal with it if the dimensional pull is also conceptual

 

[Shadowslash125]

Also OP can you clarify how his wives would be used in this matchup?

 

[PedjaTarzan]

try to explain how you say all genshin abilities can't be used in battle?]

i said 90%, and ill adress the issues in crt

 

[ShadeyD]

Also OP can you clarify how his wives would be used in this matchup?

They're in Priestella, which is the place he had his wedding in, where he brought them, so would likely be in the church there

 

[VortechsTG]

Isnt Ei's immortality type 8 and 9 non combat applicable or smth, or can she just make a new puppet on the spot as soon as it gets destroyed

She can not.