The Adversary Page Creation (WoD)

[DarkMatterEnergy254]

Let's try this again

In world of darkness exists a character name as The adversary, which has some impressive feats, so I wanted to see if we can create a profile about him

In Mage 20 The Anniversary he is considered one of the most powerful beings in the verse along with the Godheads and the Essential Divinity

It is also mentioned that The Adversary is one with the Void, being at the highest level of the Qlippoth: The Absolute

The Adversary is also beyond the game's statistics, on a cosmic level

Void explained here

So, with all this in mind, which tier should we give him?

 

[DarkMatterEnergy254]

Bump

 

[Udlmaster]

All your screenshots don't work

 

[Ihsjihahxu]

Let's try this again

In world of darkness exists a character name as The adversary, which has some impressive feats, so I wanted to see if we can create a profile about him

In Mage 20 The Anniversary he is considered one of the most powerful beings in the verse along with the Godheads and the Essential Divinity

It is also mentioned that The Adversary is one with the Void, being at the highest level of the Qlippoth: The Absolute

The Adversary is also beyond the game's statistics, on a cosmic level

Void explained here

So, with all this in mind, which tier should we give him?

All your scan dont work

 

[DarkMatterEnergy254]

All your scan dont work

And in here?

 

[DarkMatterEnergy254]

I made this new one, now with explanations

 

[Udlmaster]

I made this new one, now with explanations

Yeah, so Adversaries are basically just Dark Gods. You have Moloch, Satan, Lucifer, Lilith, Apep, etc.

They're basically a classification of Godhead.

 

[DarkMatterEnergy254]

Yeah, so Adversaries are basically just Dark Gods. You have Moloch, Satan, Lucifer, Lilith, Apep, etc.

They're basically a classification of Godhead.

Not exactly, to reach the state of the Black Diamond, one needs to go beyond the spheres of the Qlippoth, with the second sphere being ruled by Satan and Moloch, the tenth by Lilith, etc. The Black Diamond is the Absolute, the last sphere, separate and beyond the others

 

[Udlmaster]

Not exactly, to reach the state of the Black Diamond, one needs to go beyond the spheres of the Qlippoth, with the second sphere being ruled by Satan and Moloch, the tenth by Lilith, etc. The Black Diamond is the Absolute, the last sphere, separate and beyond the others

The Black Diamond is an avenue to become a Deep Lord of Misrule, or as you know them "Those who Dwell behind the Stars".

These are still Godheads.

Reaching the Black Diamond has nothing in and of itself in the state of Adversary.

 

[DarkMatterEnergy254]

The Black Diamond is an avenue to become a Deep Lord of Misrule, or as you know them "Those who Dwell behind the Stars".

These are still Godheads.

Reaching the Black Diamond has nothing in and of itself in the state of Adversary.

Sorry for answering so late I forgot about this thread, anyway, The Adversary is important enough to be considered one of the 3 most powerful beings in WoD along with Essential Divinity and the Godheads, so I think he deserves his own profile

 

[DarkMatterEnergy254]

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[Udlmaster]

Sorry for answering so late I forgot about this thread, anyway, The Adversary is important enough to be considered one of the 3 most powerful beings in WoD along with Essential Divinity and the Godheads, so I think he deserves his own profile

The Adversary is just an evil Godhead. They're not a distinct entity, just an alternate category

 

[DarkMatterEnergy254]

The Adversary is just an evil Godhead. They're not a distinct entity, just an alternate category

That's just one of the possibilities that the book itself proposes, even if he is just a dark Godhead, it's important enough to be separated from others in the classification of the 3 Great Spirits, so why not make a profile about him?

 

[Udlmaster]

That's just one of the possibilities that the book itself proposes, even if he is just a dark Godhead, it's important enough to be separated from others in the classification of the 3 Great Spirits, so why not make a profile about him?

Because there's a book about them. Apep, Wukong, Kali, etc. are all Adversaries, Dark Gods.

There's no point to making a profile about "The Adversary" in general because it's not a singular being, and if we assumed that they were, they'd have no scaling. Being the evil side of the Essential Divinity doesn't mean anything in terms of scaling.

The Crimson King is considered to be the Dark side of Gan, and he's nothing in comparison.

 

[DarkMatterEnergy254]

Still, to be considered one of the 3 great spirits, it puts them above anyone other than Essential Divinity or the Godheas. Also, who would be the most powerful Adversary?

 

[Udlmaster]

Still, to be considered one of the 3 great spirits, it puts them above anyone other than Essential Divinity or the Godheas. Also, who would be the most powerful Adversary?

The Wyrm

 

[DarkMatterEnergy254]

The Wyrm

Gaia isn't a Godhead? I say this because The Adversary are the dark Godheads, but Gaia created the Triat

 

[Udlmaster]

Gaia isn't a Godhead? I say this because The Adversary are the dark Godheads, but Gaia created the Triat

Gaia is a Godhead, but you asked about Adversaries, which Gaia isn't, she's as close to a Divine Creator you can come in WoD

 

[Re5yh]

Sounds worthy for a profile