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Maybe Immesurable speed for God tier Dbs anime characters

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We accept Dr. slump as canon. Arale's Immesurable speed seems Valid. However, since Arale is not serious, no one can benefit from it...

Beerus, who is disturbed by Arale and wants to destroy him, is afraid of Jiren's energy.





I've never seen such an amazing opponent... S-so strong! Beaten up by the strongest ever, Broly."
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Frankly, the enemy Goku and co. are up against in this movie is the strongest. Those who trust Goku will win may lose confidence, so be careful."

"Destructive power greater than a God of Destruction?!"

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The more he fights, the stronger he gets!! The fearsome monster Broly!!!

The "strongest enemy in history" appears in the first DBS movie-Broly shakes the world!!

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While characters like Broly and Jiren are mentioned as the strongest when they are introduced, it seems very wrong that all of Inverse, including Zeno, get speedblitz from Arale. I think the gods of destruction or all characters above that level should get Immesurable speed. In the dragon ball universe, speed also means power.

Agree: @KaramcaS
Disagree: @Ss3micah @CelestialVortex01 @TheNothing84
Neutral: @Shar122
 
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Ednaxel2 said:
That's only something ki related
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But Arale speedblitzing everyone including Zeno is very contrary to the Inverse power system. I do not underestimate Arale but she should not be faster than characters like Zeno and Grand Priest. Broly and Jiren were more dangerous opponents for Goku than Arale.
 
Although i always wanted immeasurable speed in DB, i don't know if they will accept this as immeasurable speed and it took about 10 minutes to understand all this

Then... Beerus and company are able to blitz Arale and that's why they should have immeasurable speed?
 
Hypercyber37 said:
But Arale speedblitzing everyone including Zeno is very contrary to the Inverse power system. I do not underestimate Arale but she should not be faster than characters like Zeno and Grand Priest. Broly and Jiren were more dangerous opponents for Goku than Arale.
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It's not contrary to have her be faster than these characters while also being much weaker
 
I don't think this Arale is the same Arale as Dr. Slump.
Maybe it is

However, it's very vague, and we can't say that Beerus has immeasurable speed, because they didn't fight at all.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Are you suggesting that 17 in DBS isn't faster than his DBZ self?
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No, I’m saying that when comparing characters to each other, not the same character pre/post training

The argument is that since Beerus/Jiren/Broly are superior to Arale in strength, that means they should also be superior in speed since one’s ki is proportional to their speed. This doesn’t apply to Arale since she isn’t a ki user, nor the Androids for the same reason (though they DO progress in speed very blatantly, the rule I said before just doesn’t apply to them)
 
Hayato5652 said:
I don't think this Arale is the same Arale as Dr. Slump.
Maybe it is

However, it's very vague, and we can't say that Beerus has immeasurable speed, because they didn't fight at all.
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Its the same Arale, they are canon to eachother
 
Ednaxel2 said:
No, I’m saying that when comparing characters to each other, not the same character pre/post training

The argument is that since Beerus/Jiren/Broly are superior to Arale in strength, that means they should also be superior in speed since one’s ki is proportional to their speed. This doesn’t apply to Arale since she isn’t a ki user, nor the Androids for the same reason (though they DO progress in speed very blatantly, the rule I said before just doesn’t apply to them)
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Androids should have infinite speed because they have infinite energy to power the genkidama
 
Alright
I’ve been woken up out of my good sleep for this so might as well make it count
Hypercyber37 said:
Beerus, who is disturbed by Arale and wants to destroy her, is afraid of Jiren's energy.

I've never seen such an amazing opponent... S-so strong! Beaten up by the strongest ever, Broly."

Frankly, the enemy Goku and co. are up against in this movie is the strongest. Those who trust Goku will win may lose confidence, so be careful."

"Destructive power greater than a God of Destruction?!"
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1. To put this as simply as I can the “stronger” Ki argument is more or less a red herring. I know we have a standard of DB characters strength, speed and other physical stats correlating with their measurement of Ki and KEY WORD TYPICALLY an opponent with higher amounts of Ki will be stronger/faster than those with less Ki but the problem here is when you try to factor Arale or other dr slump characters into the equation. They don’t use Ki. The source of their power, strength and ridiculous abilities isn’t reliant nor correlates to the system of Ki and their understanding of stupidity. I’m not even kidding the reason they can pull of such ridiculous things is quite blatantly because it’s stupid to think it can be done thus they’ll do it. So if Arale pulling of a certain feat isn’t because not correlates to her measurement of Ki which she doesn’t even have…. Then to say someone else can do the same thing because of their absurd Ki level or or “strongest person I’ve ever faced” statements that correlate directly back into Ki levels is a no go as Ki level is not the reason why Arale can do what she does.
Hypercyber37 said:
While characters like Broly and Jiren are mentioned as the strongest when they are introduced, it seems very wrong that all of Inverse, including Zeno, get speedblitz from Arale. I think the gods of destruction or all characters above that level should get Immesurable speed. In the dragon ball universe, speed also means power.
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2. Since this mainly about speed I’ll go ahead and point out that if you’ve seen the reasons for Arale’s speed then you’d know it quite literally can’t be performed by DB characters. For all their power, Jiren, Broly, the GoD, Angels and Zeno to my and everyone’s knowledge don’t have nor operate under the rules of dr slump characters, don’t operate under the logic of stupidity being the reason you can do certain things and don’t have an understanding of the 4th wall and/or meta awareness. All these factors tie into Arale’s speed and it’s at the very least it’s a stretch and at the very most impossible to say these DB characters can pull of the same level of speed WITHOUT the aforementioned factors just by a sheer metric of power and Ki which again dr slump character feats are not reliant on

3. I’ll finally say this. DB characters already under went their own thread using their OWN established feats to hit immeasurable speed. And while the feats and immeasurable speed were accepted the application was deemed an outlier. Why? Because of too many arguments and contraries to the point at hand. Dr. Slump which can only serve as secondary evidence not primary evidence would not change the outcome as well as even if you disregarded points 1 and 2 and somehow got this accepted it would still be dismissed as an outlier and inapplicable for use.


Hypercyber37 said:
Agree:
Disagree:
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Disagree
 
Hayato5652 said:
We have to wait for the admins to give their opinions.
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You can wait if you want I guess
But I’ll say right now based on what I’ve seen with better structured thread trying and failing at the same thing this may not be any different
 
Whilst I do appreciate the effort put in this, I've already asked a similar question a year ago, and I was told that we don't cross-scale both Dr. Slump & Dragon Ball for multiple reasons and I believe that ss3micah has already listed most of them so I don't really agree with the idea of cross-scaling feats here and there, especially immeasurable speed since we're already preparing a banger

Anyway count me in disagreement for now unless some miracle happens.
 
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Talking about everything, except the thread, please give your opinions on Beerus immeasurable speed.
 
I disagree with the immeasurable speed, Arale is a Toon force character, it makes no sense for any DB character to climb on top of Arale, although in fact Dr Slump is canon for DB and vice versa, but they are practically in another dimension, like a joke character has different laws than an action anime, so I'm not in favor of that.

Although there are many ways to prove that DB has immeasurable/infinite speed through the infinite Universe or teleportation itself (if you argue well)
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Although there are many ways to prove that DB has immeasurable/infinite speed through the infinite Universe or teleportation itself (if you argue well)
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The speed of Dragon Ball Super characters is limited by time, I don't think the arguments in this thread are enough for immeasurable speed.
 


This statement is ignored because it does not provide any speed at the time, but it can be used as a "supportive statement" for the current situation.
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
I disagree with the immeasurable speed, Arale is a Toon force character, it makes no sense for any DB character to climb on top of Arale, although in fact Dr Slump is canon for DB and vice versa, but they are practically in another dimension, like a joke character has different laws than an action anime, so I'm not in favor of that.

Although there are many ways to prove that DB has immeasurable/infinite speed through the infinite Universe or teleportation itself (if you argue well)
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Although not as much as the Dr. Slump series, the Dragon Ball series also contains a ton of Toon Force scenes and panels.
 
CelestialVortex01 said:
Whilst I do appreciate the effort put in this, I've already asked a similar question a year ago, and I was told that we don't cross-scale both Dr. Slump & Dragon Ball for multiple reasons and I believe that ss3micah has already listed most of them so I don't really agree with the idea of cross-scaling feats here and there, especially immeasurable speed since we're already preparing a banger

Anyway count me in disagreement for now unless some miracle happens.
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I find it weird how we don’t allow cross-scaling for Dragon Ball, but Arale gets to be 2-C from her crossover lol
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
I disagree with the immeasurable speed, Arale is a Toon force character, it makes no sense for any DB character to climb on top of Arale, although in fact Dr Slump is canon for DB and vice versa, but they are practically in another dimension, like a joke character has different laws than an action anime, so I'm not in favor of that.

Although there are many ways to prove that DB has immeasurable/infinite speed through the infinite Universe or teleportation itself (if you argue well)
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I thought Arale's Immesurable speed was not due to Toon force. she could move fast enough to travel through time.
 
This doesn't mean that she will travel in time with every full speed action, so it's pointless to ask why she doesn't travel in time while fighting.
Hypercyber37 said:
I thought Arale's Immesurable speed was not due to Toon force. she could move fast enough to travel through time.
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LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Should we do the same for Arale? Downgrade her since she won't scale with DB anymore 💀
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Dr. Slump series and Dragon Ball series are canon. Not an ordinary crossover.

They appeared in the same episode as Kid Goku in the original Dragon Ball series in the 1980s.

In a completely different episode, when there was a Universal threat, the Earth was shown and Arale and her family were also shown.

They came together again in the Super series.

The city where Arale lives is visible on the Dragon Ball map.

In the Dr. Slump series, we saw things from the DB universe again.

Akira Toriyama wrote both series.

Arale is listed as a character on the Dragon Ball official website.

Arale is in the Dragon Ball Z Databook again.

It is ridiculous to have this discussion when VSBW has already accepted Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball as canon to each other.
 
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