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Zeno Dimension

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Zeno resides above an enormous jellyfish that is located between golden clouds and what appears to be outer space containing countless galaxies and stars background features, is a separate dimension from all 12 Universes according to with databook of Dragon Ball Super, 12 Universes outside in a ball on the pillars. Zeno is seen interacting with the Universe from outside of it even without being in in the universe


I think it makes a lot of sense that Zeno's dimension is low 2-C because it contains countless galaxies and stars shown in the background and is separate from the 12 Universes, having its own space-time separate from the 12 Universes ( although i got answer here )

My simple goal, this dimension will have the size low 2-C because it contains countless galaxies and stars shown in the background as you can see and simply being separated from the 12 Universes, well i think i this will increase the amount of space-time
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Agree: Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe, CastoriceTheFifth, UnoRebaixadO, CelestialVortex01, @Qawsedf234, ProfectusInfinity, Shar122, TiltedFN, Killerdrone123, @Reiner04, Hasty12345, RenderGK, TheGreatBanana, IDK3465, @DarkDragonMedeus

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literally countless stars and galaxies in the background that go on in each direction,
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You saying countless does not automatically qualify for anything. They could theoretically be countable; an exact number of 102,367,222,051.56 galaxies could permeate the space surrounding Zen-Oh's Palace; the stars could be mirages, or holographic projections, or even microscopic constructs hovering around the Palace; the entire outer space could be the size of a hotel room. We can reasonably assume the stars and the galaxies are, in fact, stars and galaxies based off of their appearance, though. We cannot, however, reasonably assume the size of the space is equivalent to the size of the observable universe based purely off of the fact that, yes, entire galaxies populate its emptiness. (Ooh, wow!) An estimated two trillion (2,000,000,000,000) galaxies populate the observable universe.
The space Grand Kai keeps behind a door in his mansion had more evidence supporting a 3-A size, and even that was rejected.
Do you know what else can contain multiple galaxies? A supercluster; the Laniakea Supercluster, for example, contains ~100,000 galaxies.
The observable universe contains an estimated ten million (10,000,000).
 
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You saying countless does not automatically qualify for anything. They could theoretically be countable; an exact number of 102,367,222,051.56 galaxies could permeate the space surrounding Zen-Oh's Palace; the stars could be mirages, or holographic projections, or even microscopic constructs hovering around the Palace; the entire outer space could be the size of a hotel room. We can reasonably assume the stars and the galaxies are, in fact, stars and galaxies based off of their appearance, though. We cannot, however, reasonably assume the size of the space is equivalent to the size of the observable universe based purely off of the fact that, yes, entire galaxies populate its emptiness. (Ooh, wow!) An estimated two trillion (2,000,000,000,000) galaxies populate the observable universe.
The space Grand Kai keeps behind a door in his mansion had more evidence supporting a 3-A size, and even that was rejected.
Do you know what else can contain multiple galaxies? A supercluster; the Laniakea Supercluster, for example, contains ~100,000 galaxies.
The observable universe contains an estimated ten million (10,000,000).
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The reason for the grand kai's space being downgraded was for completely different reasons, mostly with what "outer space" meant. Also, you wrote all of this for no goddamn reason, when it's simple really, the most likely assumption would be to assume it's a 3-A sized realm when we see countless stars and galaxies in like every direction. It's incredibly hard to take you seriously when you came out of the gate claiming it's a 4-A sized realm despite the obvious galaxies in the background, which makes me think you didn't actually look at the screenshots of the realm at all, or you just ignored it, and instead decided to argue just to argue. You saying the entire realm is just a supercluster is insane cope from you, it's not even funny how asinine this line of reasoning is, rather than just assuming it's a universe off of what we've seen.

  • If they are outright stated to be completely separated by the barriers of time and space and either stated or shown to be reasonable in size, such as having countless galaxies, then they should indeed be universes.
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That's from the official page of the universe standards so you can just argue with a wall null, this is more than reasonable to call it universal in size.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
We can reasonably assume the stars and the galaxies are, in fact, stars and galaxies based off of their appearance, though. We cannot, however, reasonably assume the size of the space is equivalent to the size of the observable universe based purely off of the fact that, yes, entire galaxies populate its emptiness. (Ooh, wow!) An estimated two trillion (2,000,000,000,000) galaxies populate the observable universe.
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To my understanding you don't need a 1:1 statement for an alternate dimension to get a Low 2-C rating. You just need to prove that it qualifies as a substantially large space with a disconnected time stream.

Going by the images there's seemingly hundreds to thousands of galaxies shown in the very small background timeframe and unlike with the Toei Filler example it doesn't have a outright anti-feat and features more massive celestial bodies in comparison.

While I do get the hesitation in calling it universal, the space itself is very easily in the large 3-B range considering you have flanking galaxies at different cardinal refer points and 3-A isn't a massive reach in my mind.
 
So this just meaning an extra universe within a timeline? And no effect on anyone's current ratings? Just wanted to ask before I cast a vote. But it looks like a simple proposal.
 
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