Woody Woodpecker - I am scared.

[Phsccarvalho]

Hello

Before explaining the proposal, I have to say some important things that are already accepted in the verse.

It is already accepted that the animator is responsible for animating the episodes of the cartoon as this world itself. And that the world of the cartoon and the world of the animator are different "universes". (Much of this can be seen in this crt)

So the proposal is immortality type 8 and 9 for Woody based on this: Woody is the animator's pencil that is in another universe, always able to act like a cartoon by being drawn and redrawn by the author according to Woody's demands

I also propose a narrative resurrection (High-Godly) for Woody based on this, considering that his entire existence as a cartoon was drawn and redrawn by the animator according to Woody's own demands. This aspect of the animator saving Woody from death in some way is not new either, since he has done it before in another way (preventing Woody from killing himself), plus it may have something to do with Woody dying in one episode and coming back in the next, considering that the animator himself is responsible for animating the episodes.

Basically, the entity responsible for animating and reanimating the cartoon episodes (the narrative), uses the same method to draw and redesign Woody and revive him.

This would also remove the "possibly" and "not applicable to combat" that Woody has, since the animator can do that quickly.

With all this too, Woody would be blessed, considering all the help the animator gives to Woody.

I also propose to reorganize the "Immortality, regeneration and resurrection" part of the P&A, so that it looks like this:

Spoiler

NOTE: With the exception of what is being proposed in this CRT, everything else is already accepted.

• Immortality (Type 2, 3, 4, 8 and 9; Unaffected by a bullet passing through his head, can open his chest with no consequence. Came back after have his body erased. Despite dying, he appeared alive in the next episodes. Woody is the animator's pencil that is in another universe, always able to act like a cartoon by being drawn and redrawn by the author according to Woody's demands)
  • Regeneration (Low-Godly)
  • Resurrection (High-Godly - Narrative)

Votes
Agree: (3) @Reiner04, @DarkDragonMedeus, @Elizhaa

Neutral: (0)

Disagree: (0)

 

[Phsccarvalho]

There's nothing wrong with trying, right?

 

[SweetDao]

I supposed the first scan comes from an interview or some shit, right? Seems like an extremely meta-workaround to get an ability.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I supposed the first scan comes from an interview or some shit, right? Seems like an extremely meta-workaround to get an ability.

This is taken from "A Moment with Walter Lantz", which is integrated into "The Woody Woodpecker Show", i.e. it appears within the cartoon itself.

These segments are even present in the DVD version of The Woody Woodpecker Show.

Considering that it is nothing new for cartoon (WWS) to feature episodes with metanarrative elements or that are metanarratives in themselves, I don't see why it wouldn't be usable.

EDIT: The episode "The Pen Is Flightier Than The Sword" which serves as a scan of the "in another universe" part is an example of this. It is a whole metanarrative episode about the world of the cartoon, the world of the animator, the powers that the animator has because of the pen and so on. So this kind of scenario is actually something real within the verse, which has appeared many times before.

 

[SweetDao]

This is taken from "A Moment with Walter Lantz", which is integrated into "The Woody Woodpecker Show", i.e. it appears within the cartoon itself.

These segments are even present in the DVD version of The Woody Woodpecker Show.

Considering that it is nothing new for cartoons to feature episodes with metanarrative elements or that are metanarratives in themselves, I don't see why it wouldn't be usable.

I guess if it appears within the cartoon itself, it's fine then. (Is there no English subtitles available, tho?)
Edit : Nevermind, I just played the shit without sound, I'm just that dumb sometimes.

In the case of the resurrection, wouldn't it be some sort of "reliant-resurrection"? Unless I've misinterpreted your scan, Woody can't do shit in the "Pen Form" and needs the help of the guy drawing the cartoon to actually get a body. While the immortality type 9 is fine, I'm not sure if you could get the resurrection "combat-applicable" since it relies on someone else. I may be wrong, tho. This poses the same problem with the type 8. Like, as it is, the arguments are fine, but being "reliant" on the Pen is kinda useless if it isn't used by someone else?

 

[henryzx900ruly]

Reasonable. Agree

 

[Phsccarvalho]

In the case of the resurrection, wouldn't it be some sort of "reliant-resurrection"? Unless I've misinterpreted your scan, Woody can't do shit in the "Pen Form" and needs the help of the guy drawing the cartoon to actually get a body. While the immortality type 9 is fine, I'm not sure if you could get the resurrection "combat-applicable" since it relies on someone else. I may be wrong, tho. This poses the same problem with the type 8. Like, as it is, the arguments are fine, but being "reliant" on the Pen is kinda useless if it isn't used by someone else?

Woody normally has a body, and can regenerate if that body is erased (see the low Godly regeneration in his profile).

What he can't do is do this thing on the metanarrative level of being a cartoon, that would require him to need the animator or the pen. Later in these scans you can see Woody asking for the animator's pen so he can redraw his own body in the desired way.

About the limitations of the resurrection, we have the justification itself that talks about the animator and also the inclusion of the "blessed" in the profile. I can also highlight what the animator gives Woody powers.

EDIT: It would be applicable in combat (for vsbattle purposes) because of the issue of the animator really not wanting Woody to die (that scene I showed of him erasing and reanimating the episode so Woody doesn't kill himself), or simply reviving him if he dies (the current justification for resurrection where Woody dies in an episode but comes back soon after), or simply because the animator follows Woody's demands, creating a body for him and redrawing it as Woody demands something to change in his own body.

 

[SweetDao]

Woody normally has a body, and can regenerate if that body is erased (see the low Godly regeneration in his profile).

Oh yeah, I meant more like "body" as in, character design, the meta stuff basically.

What he can't do is do this thing on the metanarrative level of being a cartoon, that would require him to need the animator or the pen. Later in these scans you can see Woody asking for the animator's pen so he can redraw his own body in the desired way.

About the limitations of the resurrection, we have the justification itself that talks about the animator and also the inclusion of the "blessed" in the profile. I can also highlight what the animator gives Woody powers.

I...guess that's fine? Still unsure about the exact application on the profile, but the arguments are fine, as I said earlier.

I remember Meng Hao had, at one point, reliant-resistance regarding Existence Erasure, and it wasn't(?) taken into account unless stated in a versus thread for example. Hence, why I'm a bit unsure about your case.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Oh yeah, I meant more like "body" as in, character design, the meta stuff basically.


I...guess that's fine? Still unsure about the exact application on the profile, but the arguments are fine, as I said earlier.

I remember Meng Hao had, at one point, reliant-resistance regarding Existence Erasure, and it wasn't(?) taken into account unless stated in a versus thread for example. Hence, why I'm a bit unsure about your case.

Being dependent on something or someone for x character to do something is still completely indexable.

We have type 8 immortality and Blessed which actively portrays this. They are powers that depend on the will of another being.

EDIT: I made some edits to the messages, I don't know if you saw them.

 

[SweetDao]

Being dependent on something or someone for x character to do something is still completely indexable.

We have type 8 immortality and Blessed which actively portrays this. They are powers that depend on the will of another being.

EDIT: I made some edits to the messages, I don't know if you saw them.

If the assumption that "The Animator is more or less always with Woody" is acceptable, then I agree with the thread.

 

[Reiner04]

Wank after Wank

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Wank after Wank

What is your vote?

 

[Reiner04]

This looks fine and this;

If the assumption that "The Animator is more or less always with Woody" is acceptable, then I agree with the thread.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

bump

 

[Phsccarvalho]

super bump

 

[Phsccarvalho]

This looks fine and this;

Reiner, you can use your new powers to summon @DarkDragonMedeus @LephyrTheRevanchist @Elizhaa ?

 

[Reiner04]

Reiner, you can use your new powers to summon @DarkDragonMedeus @LephyrTheRevanchist @Elizhaa ?

I can as long as u pay me latter.
@DarkDragonMedeus @LephyrTheRevanchist @Elizhaa @Firestorm808
Can any of u take a look at this thred?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks alright.

 

[Elizhaa]

It looks fine.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Considering Firestorm808 was also tagged, I'll wait to see if he shows up before doing anything.

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

you have two 3 mod votes, i think this can be applied?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

you have two 3 mod votes, i think this can be applied?

Yes, but since Reiner pinged Firestorm808, I think it would be fair to hear what he has to say if he's interested.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

This looks fine and this;

Looks alright.

It looks fine.

Since it's been a while, with Firestorm even being online on the wiki, and he hasn't responded, I think I'll go ahead and apply.

In this case, I've already done that.

Could one of you close the crt? Thanks in advance. Thanks for everyone's time.

Note: I put Blessed next to Immortality.

 

[Reiner04]

Closing.