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Abilities
Conceptual Destruction-
Zhuo Fan destroy sword of Xiao Yunshans, an attack that harnessed the world energy.
Why Conceptual Destruction?
Here

The Heaven-reaching Sword is powered by the world itself, meaning normal physical or energy attacks shouldn’t be able to break it. Zhuo Fan, however, doesn’t just overpower it he negates and erases it entirely. This suggests that his ability targets the very concept of existence or energy itself, rather than just applying brute force.
Causality manipulation and Reality warping - Heavenly Sovereign erased everything with void eye, including living beings, the land, and even concepts. However with Ten Paths Returned ability restored existence , even bringing back people who had died.
Regeneration (High Godly)- Zhuo Fan was erased by the Void Eye, which should have permanently removed him from existence. Despite this, he came back, fully aware and in control

Why Zhou Fan Tier 2-A

Zhuo Fan is shown interacting with an endless number of spheres, which represent universes.

He is described as "surrounded by many spheres", which are flickering and roaming in the darkness.

These spheres appear to be separate universes, as he refers to their "end" and he can erase or remove them at will, implying he has control over an infinite number of universes.

He is also seen throwing a white sphere into the darkness, further reinforcing that these are entire worlds or universes, and that he can manipulate them freely.

Is the sphere is universe?

Yes, based on this passage, the spheres strongly imply that they represent universes or worlds. Here’s why:
  1. Direct Reference to Worlds - Zhuo Fan refers to the black spheres as worlds that have reached their end and calls his act heaven’s duty to remove them.
    -This suggests each sphere represents an entire living world or universe rather than just small energy orbs.
  2. Variety of States (White, Gray, Black)- The spheres are categorized based on their state of vitality:
    -White spheres = Pure, possibly flourishing worlds.
    -Gray spheres = Deteriorating but still surviving.
    -Black spheres = Dead or corrupted worlds, needing to be removed.
    -This mirrors how universes or realms can be at different stages of existence.
  3. Scale & Perspective- Zhuo Fan is described as walking among these spheres in endless darkness, meaning he is outside and above them.
    -This suggests a cosmic perspective, treating each sphere as a separate entity, akin to a universe rather than just a small object.
  4. Martial Emperor Continent Mentioned- When Zhuo Fan refers to the Martial Emperor Continent as approaching its end, it implies that a sphere represents a complete realm or universe, not just a single planet.
Yes, this passage provides strong narrative evidence that these spheres represent entire universes or realms, with Zhuo Fan acting as a cosmic force capable of judging, maintaining, and erasing them based on their state.

Reminder this is not his all abilities also sorry for my bad english 🙏 🙏
 
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Conceptual Destruction- Zhuo Fan destroy sword of Xiao Yunshans, an attack that harnessed the world energy.
Why Conceptual Destruction?
Here

The Heaven-reaching Sword is powered by the world itself, meaning normal physical or energy attacks shouldn’t be able to break it. Zhuo Fan, however, doesn’t just overpower it he negates and erases it entirely. This suggests that his ability targets the very concept of existence or energy itself, rather than just applying brute force.
Conceptual stuff needs more context, the scans showed the sword is made out of energy and Zhuo Fan destroyed it using Void Annihilation which is just erasing it / destroying it using Void stuff. I don't find any basis for concept statement and it's not stated as abstract concept nonetheless.

It can if the feat itself stated that he erased the very concept of existence, but it does not. This just his Void Attack capability

Being connected to world is a vague statement and does not generally a concept thing, just universally energy powered sword.
 
Just a note, the usage of some of the scaling ""tiers"" (No idea what they are called.) should be mentioned before the ability instead of after the ability.

Also, "Higher" should be changed to either "enhanced" or "greater"

So for example

from

To
 
Conceptual stuff needs more context, the scans showed the sword is made out of energy and Zhuo Fan destroyed it using Void Annihilation which is just erasing it / destroying it using Void stuff. I don't find any basis for concept statement and it's not stated as abstract concept nonetheless.

It can if the feat itself stated that he erased the very concept of existence, but it does not. This just his Void Attack capability

Being connected to world is a vague statement and does not generally a concept thing, just universally energy powered sword.
Since the scan i provide earlier is lack of evidence for his Conceptual manipulation so i provide new scan for his Conceptual manipulation
Here

Heavenly Sovereign uses Supreme Heavenly Eye to erase the world.The Eye wipes out mountains, land, and people, leaving no trace.Kunpeng and others panic because nothing can survive it—even hiding is futile.

Zhuo Fan is erased but later returns, showing he resists this kind of fundamental erasure.

Proof of Conceptual Manipulation

Supreme Heavenly Eye erases existence itself, not just energy or matter. Zhuo Fan resists and counters it, proving he interacts with concepts of existence and erasure.

Recreating the Universe with "Ten Paths to Heaven.
Zhuo Fan chants the Ten Paths to Heaven, restoring everything. He calls back fundamental Sovereign Paths: Void Path, Tyrant Path, Mortal Path, etc. The sky rips open, and reality reforms, countering Heavenly Sovereign’s destruction. Heavenly Sovereign panics, realizing Zhuo Fan recreated the lost concepts.

Proof of Conceptual Manipulation:

The Ten Paths are conceptual forces that shape reality itself. Zhuo Fan doesn’t just undo damage he rebuilds existence by recalling lost fundamental concepts. This proves he can restore erased concepts, not just material things.

3 Universe Palm – Final Conceptual Attack.

Zhuo Fan unites all Ten Paths and uses Universe Palm. Heavenly Sovereign desperately uses Supreme Heavenly Eye to stop it. But nothing can resist Zhuo Fan’s attack.

Proof of Conceptual Manipulation: Universe Palm is not just destruction it’s an attack that overwrites existence itself.

Even the Supreme Heavenly Eye, which erases existence, fails to counter it.
 
Being outside the sphere of the ball does not mean he is at a 4-D level. First, you should find a scan explaining why the sphere is considered a universe and verify whether the Martial Emperor Continent mentioned is actually the size of a real universe.

As for Xiao Yunshan’s power, his ability does not control the energy of the real world; it merely gathers the surrounding energy to form a sword. Therefore, this does not count as Conceptual Manipulation (CM).

You should use scans from his battle against the Heavenly Emperor instead. I believe it will be easier to understand, such as the 10 Dao Heavenly Techniques, which can erase the Heavenly Emperor’s existence.
 
I’m pretty sure someone tried adding this already, and someone pointed out that the Manhua doesn’t follow the novel, to the point where there is many differences. I believe it was @Zaratthustra that pointed it out.

If so, you’ll have to replace every Manhua scan with the Novel scan.
 
Agree with YueNoMoral, the part about the shpere referring to the universe doesn't seem enough. I think it could mean the same thing as Scared Domain.
 
Can you explain, why spheres is universe?

From the feat, I don't see it as a universe.
Why Zhou Fan Tier 2-A

Zhuo Fan is shown interacting with an endless number of spheres, which represent universes.

He is described as "surrounded by many spheres", which are flickering and roaming in the darkness.

These spheres appear to be separate universes, as he refers to their "end" and he can erase or remove them at will, implying he has control over an infinite number of universes.

He is also seen throwing a white sphere into the darkness, further reinforcing that these are entire worlds or universes, and that he can manipulate them freely.

Is the sphere is universe?

Yes, based on this passage, the spheres strongly imply that they represent universes or worlds. Here’s why:
  1. Direct Reference to Worlds - Zhuo Fan refers to the black spheres as worlds that have reached their end and calls his act heaven’s duty to remove them.
    -This suggests each sphere represents an entire living world or universe rather than just small energy orbs.
  2. Variety of States (White, Gray, Black)- The spheres are categorized based on their state of vitality:
    -White spheres = Pure, possibly flourishing worlds.
    -Gray spheres = Deteriorating but still surviving.
    -Black spheres = Dead or corrupted worlds, needing to be removed.
    -This mirrors how universes or realms can be at different stages of existence.
  3. Scale & Perspective- Zhuo Fan is described as walking among these spheres in endless darkness, meaning he is outside and above them.
    -This suggests a cosmic perspective, treating each sphere as a separate entity, akin to a universe rather than just a small object.
  4. Martial Emperor Continent Mentioned- When Zhuo Fan refers to the Martial Emperor Continent as approaching its end, it implies that a sphere represents a complete realm or universe, not just a single planet.
Yes, this passage provides strong narrative evidence that these spheres represent entire universes or realms, with Zhuo Fan acting as a cosmic force capable of judging, maintaining, and erasing them based on their state.

Reminder this is not his all abilities also sorry for my bad english 🙏 🙏
 
Being outside the sphere of the ball does not mean he is at a 4-D level.
Zhuo Fan exists outside of the sphere which represent as a universe, he can destroy them if you look the scan i provide
First, you should find a scan explaining why the sphere is considered a universe and verify whether the Martial Emperor Continent mentioned is actually the size of a real universe
Yes, i willexplain this letter
As for Xiao Yunshan’s power, his ability does not control the energy of the real world; it merely gathers the surrounding energy to form a sword. Therefore, this does not count as Conceptual Manipulation (CM).

You should use scans from his battle against the Heavenly Emperor instead. I believe it will be easier to understand, such as the 10 Dao Heavenly Techniques, which can erase the Heavenly Emperor’s existence.
Since the scan i provide earlier is lack of evidence for his Conceptual manipulation so i provide new scan for his Conceptual manipulation
Here

Heavenly Sovereign uses Supreme Heavenly Eye to erase the world.The Eye wipes out mountains, land, and people, leaving no trace.Kunpeng and others panic because nothing can survive it—even hiding is futile.

Zhuo Fan is erased but later returns, showing he resists this kind of fundamental erasure.

Proof of Conceptual Manipulation

Supreme Heavenly Eye erases existence itself, not just energy or matter. Zhuo Fan resists and counters it, proving he interacts with concepts of existence and erasure.

Recreating the Universe with "Ten Paths to Heaven.
Zhuo Fan chants the Ten Paths to Heaven, restoring everything. He calls back fundamental Sovereign Paths: Void Path, Tyrant Path, Mortal Path, etc. The sky rips open, and reality reforms, countering Heavenly Sovereign’s destruction. Heavenly Sovereign panics, realizing Zhuo Fan recreated the lost concepts.

Proof of Conceptual Manipulation:

The Ten Paths are conceptual forces that shape reality itself. Zhuo Fan doesn’t just undo damage he rebuilds existence by recalling lost fundamental concepts. This proves he can restore erased concepts, not just material things.

3 Universe Palm – Final Conceptual Attack.

Zhuo Fan unites all Ten Paths and uses Universe Palm. Heavenly Sovereign desperately uses Supreme Heavenly Eye to stop it. But nothing can resist Zhuo Fan’s attack.

Proof of Conceptual Manipulation: Universe Palm is not just destruction it’s an attack that overwrites existence itself.

Even the Supreme Heavenly Eye, which erases existence, fails to counter it.
 
I’m pretty sure someone tried adding this already, and someone pointed out that the Manhua doesn’t follow the novel, to the point where there is many differences. I believe it was @Zaratthustra that pointed it out.

If so, you’ll have to replace every Manhua scan with the Novel scan.
Magic Emperor is follows the novel . However the manhua has little differences from the novel like pacing
 
Conceptual Destruction-
Not conceptual destruction. It's vague and doesn't grant anything atm.
Causality manipulation and Reality warping
Nowhere is it mentioned he erased concepts.
Low-Godly.
He is described as "surrounded by many spheres", which are flickering and roaming in the darkness.
The scan is about a "continent", I know such locations tends to be way larger than what the names suggest in Wuxia, but you should back it up, because right now, the spheres are continent-sized at best.
These spheres appear to be separate universes, as he refers to their "end" and he can erase or remove them at will, implying he has control over an infinite number of universes.
No mention of infinity.

Also, while you surely used AI to help you write coherently and without many mistakes, you shouldn't exclusively rely on it when it comes to arguments.
 
Agree with YueNoMoral, the part about the shpere referring to the universe doesn't seem enough. I think it could mean the same thing as Scared Domain.
Ok but from But from the feed, I don't see that the sphere is a universe at all.
Ok there someone that they see the sphere asa a universe so i will explain why the sphere is represent as a universe

Zhuo Fan is showing roaming in the darkness, surrounded by the countless spheres, which have different colors

Colors of Sphere
White Sphere- Pure world, still full of life
Gray- World approaching their end
Black- Dead worlds, which Zhuo fan erases

Zhuo Fan is holding and manipulate these sphere, even poping the black one

Why the sphere is universe?

Many Xianxia novel refer to individual universe as ''worlds'', with cultivators ascending through different realms, wchich are actually self contained universe

Zhuo Fan is erasing and selecting the black spheres

''Sorry, it’s not that I destroyed you, but that your world is already at its end, turned into hell.”

This means that each sphere is a separate world or universe that has its own lifespan and cycle.

Zhuo Fan is standing outside the sphere and roaming tracing the black sphere

Also that Martial Emperor Continent is Scared Domain.

When reach the sumpreme Stage you can grasp the world, destroy or create it.

Zhuo Fan is already above the Supreme Stage, he already The World stage that's why Zhuo Fan can erase the sphere which is universe
 
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Actually, I am pretty sure in most cases on the wiki, Endless=infinite, Is there a reason why in this example it is not?
 
He came back from being erased completely, without any further explanation that's only Low-Godly.

Endless doesn't necessarily mean infinite in each context. As of now, it would just be 2-C/2-B at most.
Actually, I am pretty sure in most cases on the wiki, Endless=infinite, Is there a reason why in this example it is not?
Yes, endless and infinite are use to interchangeable to describe something that continues without limit or definite end
 
Actually, I am pretty sure in most cases on the wiki, Endless=infinite, Is there a reason why in this example it is not?
Because it takes some savviness to actually understand the difference between the two, and a one-off statement clearly stated from the perspective of the MC isn't going to cut it. Unless there are like, multiple statements of their number being endless, or heck, an infinite statement, it's just worthless.
 
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not light novel
 
Also, out of curiosity, I checked the raw of the scan regarding the "endless" statement:
嘴角一翘,卓凡又看向其余难以计数的小球,尤其是一个有些灰暗的小球叹道
Which roughly translate to this with MTL:
The corner of his mouth lifted, and Zhuo Fan looked at the countless other small spheres, especially at one that was somewhat dim, and sighed.

The important part is 难以计数 which seems to translate to "hard to count/hard to imagine (quantity)"
 
Ok there someone that they see the sphere asa a universe so i will explain why the sphere is represent as a universe

Zhuo Fan is showing roaming in the darkness, surrounded by the countless spheres, which have different colors

Colors of Sphere
White Sphere- Pure world, still full of life
Gray- World approaching their end
Black- Dead worlds, which Zhuo fan erases

Zhuo Fan is holding and manipulate these sphere, even poping the black one

Why the sphere is universe?

Many Xianxia novel refer to individual universe as ''worlds'', with cultivators ascending through different realms, wchich are actually self contained universe

Zhuo Fan is erasing and selecting the black spheres

''Sorry, it’s not that I destroyed you, but that your world is already at its end, turned into hell.”

This means that each sphere is a separate world or universe that has its own lifespan and cycle.

Zhuo Fan is standing outside the sphere and roaming tracing the black sphere

Also that Martial Emperor Continent is Scared Domain.

When reach the sumpreme Stage you can grasp the world, destroy or create it.

Zhuo Fan is already above the Supreme Stage, he already The World stage that's why Zhuo Fan can erase the sphere which is universe
It depends on how the novel describes the word world, and throughout the story, it is never mentioned that the world or continents are the universe, so I don't agree. And about the spheres with different colors, the white one may mean a pure world, full of love, peace, the grey world is a world with both love, anger, and hate, like our current world, which has both good and evil. The black world is a world filled with hatred, no love, peace, full of war and killing.

Throughout the story, Zhao Fan is made to learn about love, and in the end, he is able to defeat his brother (Heavenly Sovereign) with love, For example, in the last episode, when he was erased by Heavenly Sovereign's eye ability. That made his wife Chu Qing-Cheng cry and during that time, with the tears of love that fell down, Zhuo Fan appeared agian.



Heavenly Sovereign said, "May I ask you something?"

"Feel free."

"What is your path?" Heavenly Sovereign looked on with hope, "Ever since you appeared, I felt your path was different from my younger brother. It's emotional, but different. What is it?"

Zhuo Fan smiled, "His compassion was greater, that of the higher love, while mine was only of minor love."

"Minor love could form a path and beat me?"

"Aren't the emotions in the world split into minor and major?" Zhuo Fan smirked, causing Heavenly Sovereign to shudder.

Chapter 1315
 
Because it takes some savviness to actually understand the difference between the two, and a one-off statement clearly stated from the perspective of the MC isn't going to cut it. Unless there are like, multiple statements of their number being endless, or heck, an infinite statement, it's just worthless.
Yes, endless and infinite are use to interchangeable to describe something that continues without limit or definite end
Ah, I see, after looking over the context, the issue is not that the word "endless" is used, but rather who said it, and the context of it.

Due to the context, it sounds more like how we say "There are an endless number of stars in the sky.". In other words, it is not necessary an infinite number of spheres but rather just being more than he can count or just an extremely large number. Due to this it can't be alone as evidence to prove 2A, but would be good backup arguments/scans.

But yeah, it should be safe to say 2B.
 
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It's the narrator who stated it, but it's quite obvious that it's "the narrator from the perspective of the MC". Regardless, the raw doesn't seem to align with the english translation.
What do you think about the sphere? Is universe or not
 
What do you think about the sphere? Is universe or not
Without any further information, it's continent-sized at best. "Worlds" is a very vague term. If you can prove that, for example, there is a starry sky, a solar system, galaxies, ... in each spheres, that would help.
 
Without any further information, it's continent-sized at best. "Worlds" is a very vague term. If you can prove that, for example, there is a starry sky, a solar system, galaxies, ... in each spheres, that would help.
Yes there a starry sky, solar system in Martial Emperor Continent which is Scared Domain. I will find the scan later
 
Without any further information, it's continent-sized at best. "Worlds" is a very vague term. If you can prove that, for example, there is a starry sky, a solar system, galaxies, ... in each spheres, that would help.
So i already find some scan that the Martial Emperor is universre size and the sphere
Here
Once the world stopped shaking, there were no stars, moon, or sun, only endless darkness.

This implies that before the battle, the Sacred Domain contained celestial objects like stars, a moon, and a sun. In most fictional cosmologies, these celestial bodies are not part of a single planet but instead belong to a larger cosmic system typically a universe. The disappearance of stars and celestial bodies due to destruction suggests that these elements were originally widespread, reinforcing the idea that the Sacred Domain spans an entire universe rather than a small realm.

The battle caused space to warp and break apart, revealing black holes.

Black holes are astrophysical objects that only form on a cosmic scale, not on a planetary or local level.The fact that space laws couldn't keep up suggests that the Sacred Domain operates under its own cosmological physics, like a self-contained universe.

How the battle lasted three months and killed every creature within a radius of millions of miles.

A Continent battlefield wouldn't be measured in millions of miles this is an astronomical measurement closer to galactic or universal conflict rather than just continent destruction.If destruction extends across millions of miles and affects celestial bodies, it strongly suggests that the Sacred Domain or Martial Emperor Continent encompasses an entire cosmic system.

After the battle, there is "only endless darkness.

If the Sacred Domain were merely a planet or continent, destruction wouldn't result in an absolute lack of light unless it affected an entire cosmic-scale region. This description aligns with universal destruction, where celestial bodies (like stars) are wiped out, leaving a void.

Conclusion:

Sacred Domain or Martial Emperor Continent is a Universe Based on the existence and destruction of celestial bodies (stars, sun, moon). The warping and collapse of space-time, resulting in black holes. The scale of destruction spanning millions of miles. The complete erasure of light, implying total cosmic annihilation. Same as the other sphere

Reminder this is Martial Emperor Continent also known as Scared Domain.

Since Martial Emperor Continent is one of the sphere so the other sphere is universe size, what do you think about this?@SweetDao
 
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Pouvez-vous expliquer pourquoi les sphères constituent l’univers ?

De l'exploit, je ne le vois pas comme un univers.
Le pinyin utilisé pour désigner le monde est 世界 qui peut signifier soit ville, soit univers. On cite normalement que le corps de Zhuo traverse les étoiles comme une étoile filante ou quelque chose comme ça normalement, ou bien il y a vers le chapitre 394 avec le grand prêtre de Tianyu, le grand prêtre parle de lire le ciel nocturne, ce qui signifie qu'il lit les étoiles pour prédire l'avenir, et c'est le royaume des mortels, sachant que le royaume des mortels a fusionné avec le royaume sacré, ce détail est une preuve à 100%.

Désolé pour mon anglais, je suis mauvais et j'utilise DeepL
 
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Au chapitre 394, le grand prêtre parle de lire le ciel nocturne pour prédire l'avenir, le destin, et le ciel nocturne fait directement référence aux étoiles. Le grand prêtre est alors un descendant de l'empereur Yun, le souverain du destin qui détient le chemin vers les étoiles. À ce stade, le royaume des mortels et le royaume sacré étaient deux mondes distincts.

Il s'agissait donc de deux sphères distinctes, car le pinyin utilisé pour désigner le monde est 世界, qui peut signifier soit société, soit univers, et la présence du ciel étoilé élimine automatiquement le terme société.
 
It depends on how the novel describes the word world, and throughout the story, it is never mentioned that the world or continents are the universe, so I don't agree. And about the spheres with different colors, the white one may mean a pure world, full of love, peace, the grey world is a world with both love, anger, and hate, like our current world, which has both good and evil. The black world is a world filled with hatred, no love, peace, full of war and killing.

Throughout the story, Zhao Fan is made to learn about love, and in the end, he is able to defeat his brother (Heavenly Sovereign) with love, For example, in the last episode, when he was erased by Heavenly Sovereign's eye ability. That made his wife Chu Qing-Cheng cry and during that time, with the tears of love that fell down, Zhuo Fan appeared agian.



Heavenly Sovereign said, "May I ask you something?"

"Feel free."

"What is your path?" Heavenly Sovereign looked on with hope, "Ever since you appeared, I felt your path was different from my younger brother. It's emotional, but different. What is it?"

Zhuo Fan smiled, "His compassion was greater, that of the higher love, while mine was only of minor love."

"Minor love could form a path and beat me?"

"Aren't the emotions in the world split into minor and major?" Zhuo Fan smirked, causing Heavenly Sovereign to shudder.

Chapter 1315
I don't agree with you, the white, grey and black spheres don't at all mean a world full of love etc... Zhuo says that when he looks at black spheres, they are worlds that have come to their end. As for the Martial Emperor's continents, the gray spheres, Zhuo says that this world has not come to an end, but will soon, and the white worlds are newly created worlds like the one Zhuo created to lock up his brother.

Then Zhuo is well and truly destroyed and erased by the celestial Sovereign, but he doesn't come back because he's overwhelmed by love, but because he's understood the essence of the 10 paths to paradise.
 
I don't agree with you, the white, grey and black spheres don't at all mean a world full of love etc... Zhuo says that when he looks at black spheres, they are worlds that have come to their end. As for the Martial Emperor's continents, the gray spheres, Zhuo says that this world has not come to an end, but will soon, and the white worlds are newly created worlds like the one Zhuo created to lock up his brother.

Then Zhuo is well and truly destroyed and erased by the celestial Sovereign, but he doesn't come back because he's overwhelmed by love, but because he's understood the essence of the 10 paths to paradise.
Okay, You are left with only proof that the sphere is a universe that is made up of the laws of space and time of each sphere (2B 1001 - Countless Space-time continuums) . I disagree with High-Godly because he was simply erased by turning into nothingness. High-Godly is the regeneration from destruction of the body, soul, mind, and one or more things, such as history, information, ideas.
 
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