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Dexter upgrade (Only TV Series)

09Kayson09

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Time to upgrade Dexter's power

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As everyone knows, Dexter is currently at 9-C (Street Level) range in his profile BUT it's time to change this putting him to 9-B (Wall Level). Dexter had a calc of his feat of having slammed a man against a wooden toilet stall wall whose result was Wall Level, The first change is in Dexter's tier, removing the ''At least 9-C'' to ''At least 9-B'' in his profile, his striking strenght and durability should go to Wall Level too. Now let's talk about his speed, As you know, Dexter is classified as Peak Human in speed, another thing that should be changed since a feat of young Dexter in Original Sin dodging a bullet was calculated. That said Dexter should have his speed upgraded to Superhuman with Supersonic perception speed.

Note: Characters like James Doakes, Brian Moser and Little Chino should also be upgraded to 9-B as well since they were all able to hurt/survive attacks from Dexter who will now be upgraded to Wall Level.

Agree: 4 (@Dalesean027, @Reiner04, @Da3ggman, @LIGHTYW)

Disagree:

Neutral:
 
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You should add the content from Arthur’s sandbox rework.
  • Arthur gets At most Wall level durability and Street level+ attack potency for downscaling Dexter.
  • Arthur also gets At least Peak Human lifting strength, Superhuman reactions & combat speed, and Athletic stamina.
 
09Kayson09 said:
Time to upgrade Dexter's power

480657619-1358633295572279-1991934301089689975-n.jpg


As everyone knows, Dexter is currently at 9-C (Street Level) range in his profile BUT it's time to change this putting him to 9-B (Wall Level). Dexter had a calc of his feat of having slammed a man against a wooden toilet stall wall whose result was Wall Level, The first change is in Dexter's tier, removing the ''At least 9-C'' to ''At least 9-B'' in his profile, his striking strenght and durability should go to Wall Level too. Now let's talk about his speed, As you know, Dexter is classified as Peak Human in speed, another thing that should be changed since a feat of young Dexter in Original Sin dodging a bullet was calculated. That said Dexter should have his speed upgraded to Superhuman with Supersonic perception speed.

Note: Characters like James Doakes, Brian Moser and Little Chino should also be upgraded to 9-B as well since they were all able to hurt/survive attacks from Dexter who will now be upgraded to Wall Level.
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There is multiple things that should be taken in count, first we agreed in the discussion thread that there would be two different keys (One for Original Sin and one for Main show-ressurection), we have also thought of Subsonic c/r speed for his second key via this calc (It was still not accepted so we waited until making a crt), the verse would scale to this 9-B feat that still is not evaluated, Arthur Mitchell was supposed to be downscaled, and Brian would also have another key for OS

Here is the sandboxes
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Arthur Mitchell

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Dexter Morgan (Original Sin Rework)

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Brian Moser Rework

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HorrorHistory said:
We can still use the 31KJ feat in the meantime, since both are still Wall level anyway. Whenever that one gets evaluated we can just add new values for it, and it might even take a while given glass feats are still not properly evaluated and there’s not much progress in it as well.
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I agree, for now we can use the 33 kj value but what about the speed
 
09Kayson09 said:
Time to upgrade Dexter's power

480657619-1358633295572279-1991934301089689975-n.jpg


As everyone knows, Dexter is currently at 9-C (Street Level) range in his profile BUT it's time to change this putting him to 9-B (Wall Level). Dexter had a calc of his feat of having slammed a man against a wooden toilet stall wall whose result was Wall Level, The first change is in Dexter's tier, removing the ''At least 9-C'' to ''At least 9-B'' in his profile, his striking strenght and durability should go to Wall Level too. Now let's talk about his speed, As you know, Dexter is classified as Peak Human in speed, another thing that should be changed since a feat of young Dexter in Original Sin dodging a bullet was calculated. That said Dexter should have his speed upgraded to Superhuman with Supersonic perception speed.

Note: Characters like James Doakes, Brian Moser and Little Chino should also be upgraded to 9-B as well since they were all able to hurt/survive attacks from Dexter who will now be upgraded to Wall Level.

Agree: 4 (@Dalesean027, @Reiner04, @Da3ggman, @LIGHTYW)

Disagree:

Neutral:
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Seems nice, agree
 
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I personally think he should just stay at street most of his wall level calcs were debunked to like 700 joules-3kj at max I think his speed can be subsonic but wall level scaling is ratty
 
Joe_goldberb said:
I personally think he should just stay at street most of his wall level calcs were debunked to like 700 joules-3kj at max I think his speed can be subsonic but wall level scaling is ratty
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I agree that we’ve had a bunch of rat calcs, but this one sounds valid—unlike those 580+ kJ scalings for feats that are, at best, 1 kJ. I'm 100% sure Dexter is above the values you gave
 
GreshPnk said:
I agree that we’ve had a bunch of rat calcs, but this one sounds valid—unlike those 580+ kJ scalings for feats that are, at best, 1 kJ. I'm 100% sure Dexter is above the values you gave
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The max I can really get Dexter at imo is 6kj
 
69Blood69 said:
like what?
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For him breaking a wooden wall and bathroom stall both were debunked to around 1-3kjs him surviving a hurricane isn’t valid cause your not getting punched by a hurricane that’s not how it works + there’s been statements by the writers he didn’t tank it the new blood car crash isn’t valid cause one it’s a outlier 2 cars have control shattering which is made to reduce the impact of car crashes the building level explosion is invalid sense Dexter got harmed by doakes who got one shotted by a smaller explosion
 
Joe_goldberb said:
For him breaking a wooden wall and bathroom stall both were debunked to around 1-3kjs
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Whats the debunk? and pls do not tell me its "The wood is old"
Joe_goldberb said:
him surviving a hurricane isn’t valid cause your not getting punched by a hurricane that’s not how it works + there’s been statements by the writers he didn’t tank it
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I agree, the feat is kinda vague to give it a value but do you have scans for the statements
Joe_goldberb said:
the new blood car crash isn’t valid cause one it’s a outlier 2 cars have control shattering which is made to reduce the impact of car crashes
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Control shattering doesn't matter, he still went out of the vehicle at same speed of the car and he went so fast that he shattered the passenger window
Joe_goldberb said:
the building level explosion is invalid sense Dexter got harmed by doakes who got one shotted by a smaller explosion
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I agree, its obvious that he went underwater at the right moment
 
69Blood69 said:
Whats the debunk? and pls do not tell me its "The wood is old"

I agree, the feat is kinda vague to give it a value but do you have scans for the statements

Control shattering doesn't matter, he still went out of the vehicle at same speed of the car and he went so fast that he shattered the passenger window

I agree, its obvious that he went underwater at the right moment
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the wood is old is not my debunk that’s a terrible argument it’s
# DEXTER AND A REDNECK the feat happens here

Redneck’s head height: 18-20cm (i will use 20cm for a highball) or 263px (red)

20cm ÷ 263px = 0.07604562737cm per each px

Plank’s height: 197px • 0.07604562737 = 14.9809885932cm (green)
Since Dexter mainly broke 3 planks:
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14.9809885932cm • 3 = 44.9429657796cm

Plank’s thickness: 19px • 0.07604562737 = 1.44486692015cm or 0.0144486692015m (blue)

Splintered area: 1.44486692015cm • 44.9429657796cm = 64.9366045484cm² or 6,493.66045484mm²

Shear strength:
The material is likely to be white oak that has a shear strength of 10.3-13.8MPa
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Force: 6,493.66045484mm² • 10.3MPa = 66,884.7026849N (lowball)

6,493.66045484mm² • 13.8MPa = 89,612.5142768N (highball)

Energy: 66,884.7026849N • 0.0144486692015m = 966.394943735J (lowball)

89,612.5142768N • 0.0144486692015m = 1,294.7815751J (highball)

# CONCLUSION**966 - 1,294 joules **Street lvl (9-C) if you do not think this is valid here’s another calc for it
Dexter bursts through planks
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Feat here.
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Redneck's height on screen: 1419 px
I can't find anything on his actual height so I'll take the average male height, 1.7 m or 170 cm.
170 / 1419 = 0.11980267794 cm per px
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Planks height: 947 px
947 * 0.11980267794 = 113.453136009 cm (i'll say inbetween each plank there's at least a 2 cm gap which would be 56.7265680045 cm)
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Planks: length: 49 px
49 * 0.11980267794 = 5.87033121906 cm
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For the breakage I'll take 1 cm as the average.
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56.7265680045 * 5.87033121906 * 1 = 333.003743107 cc
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Planks are usually made of timber) which has a shear strength of 9.3 MPa.
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333.003743107 * 9.3 = 3096.9348109 joules
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(Street Level)
 
Yes I do have scans of that statment also for the shattering thing
this happens when a car crashes. these windows are designed to break if enough impact happens by lets say a car crash actually not sure if it depends on exactly the amount of impact but the point is, controlled shattering is a thing well the window has to have broken for dexter to be able to fly through


so with this youd just be arguing that dexter is flying faster than the glass fragments are traveling


which would still make sense, since even if the glass breaks a millisecond before he flies out it would absorb most of the impact
 
Joe_goldberb said:
the wood is old is not my debunk that’s a terrible argument it’s
# DEXTER AND A REDNECK the feat happens here

Redneck’s head height: 18-20cm (i will use 20cm for a highball) or 263px (red)

20cm ÷ 263px = 0.07604562737cm per each px

Plank’s height: 197px • 0.07604562737 = 14.9809885932cm (green)

14.9809885932cm • 3 = 44.9429657796cm

Plank’s thickness: 19px • 0.07604562737 = 1.44486692015cm or 0.0144486692015m (blue)

Splintered area: 1.44486692015cm • 44.9429657796cm = 64.9366045484cm² or 6,493.66045484mm²

Shear strength:

Force: 6,493.66045484mm² • 10.3MPa = 66,884.7026849N (lowball)

6,493.66045484mm² • 13.8MPa = 89,612.5142768N (highball)

Energy: 66,884.7026849N • 0.0144486692015m = 966.394943735J (lowball)

89,612.5142768N • 0.0144486692015m = 1,294.7815751J (highball)

# CONCLUSION**966 - 1,294 joules **Street lvl (9-C) if you do not think this is valid here’s another calc for it
Dexter bursts through planks
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Feat here.
-
Redneck's height on screen: 1419 px
I can't find anything on his actual height so I'll take the average male height, 1.7 m or 170 cm.
170 / 1419 = 0.11980267794 cm per px
-
Planks height: 947 px
947 * 0.11980267794 = 113.453136009 cm (i'll say inbetween each plank there's at least a 2 cm gap which would be 56.7265680045 cm)
-
Planks: length: 49 px
49 * 0.11980267794 = 5.87033121906 cm
-
For the breakage I'll take 1 cm as the average.
-
56.7265680045 * 5.87033121906 * 1 = 333.003743107 cc
-
Planks are usually made of timber) which has a shear strength of 9.3 MPa.
-
333.003743107 * 9.3 = 3096.9348109 joules
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(Street Level)
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That's not how you calculate wood destruction and this calc did it better
Joe_goldberb said:
Yes I do have scans of that statment also for the shattering thing
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Can you link?
Joe_goldberb said:
this happens when a car crashes. these windows are designed to break if enough impact happens by lets say a car crash actually not sure if it depends on exactly the amount of impact but the point is, controlled shattering is a thing well the window has to have broken for dexter to be able to fly through


so with this youd just be arguing that dexter is flying faster than the glass fragments are traveling


which would still make sense, since even if the glass breaks a millisecond before he flies out it would absorb most of the impact
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So? Dexter still went through the window at the same speed of the car and was fine when getting back up. Even if you are not counting, its still Street level+ just for the window breaking alone
 
Joe_goldberb said:
the wood is old is not my debunk that’s a terrible argument it’s
# DEXTER AND A REDNECK the feat happens here

Redneck’s head height: 18-20cm (i will use 20cm for a highball) or 263px (red)

20cm ÷ 263px = 0.07604562737cm per each px

Plank’s height: 197px • 0.07604562737 = 14.9809885932cm (green)

14.9809885932cm • 3 = 44.9429657796cm

Plank’s thickness: 19px • 0.07604562737 = 1.44486692015cm or 0.0144486692015m (blue)

Splintered area: 1.44486692015cm • 44.9429657796cm = 64.9366045484cm² or 6,493.66045484mm²

Shear strength:

Force: 6,493.66045484mm² • 10.3MPa = 66,884.7026849N (lowball)

6,493.66045484mm² • 13.8MPa = 89,612.5142768N (highball)

Energy: 66,884.7026849N • 0.0144486692015m = 966.394943735J (lowball)

89,612.5142768N • 0.0144486692015m = 1,294.7815751J (highball)

# CONCLUSION**966 - 1,294 joules **Street lvl (9-C) if you do not think this is valid here’s another calc for it
Dexter bursts through planks
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Feat here.
-
Redneck's height on screen: 1419 px
I can't find anything on his actual height so I'll take the average male height, 1.7 m or 170 cm.
170 / 1419 = 0.11980267794 cm per px
-
Planks height: 947 px
947 * 0.11980267794 = 113.453136009 cm (i'll say inbetween each plank there's at least a 2 cm gap which would be 56.7265680045 cm)
-
Planks: length: 49 px
49 * 0.11980267794 = 5.87033121906 cm
-
For the breakage I'll take 1 cm as the average.
-
56.7265680045 * 5.87033121906 * 1 = 333.003743107 cc
-
Planks are usually made of timber) which has a shear strength of 9.3 MPa.
-
333.003743107 * 9.3 = 3096.9348109 joules
-
(Street Level)
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Did we really mention this feat? I mean its obvious that this one stomps at low street, some glazers just made a 580 Kj calc for it, and it has nothing to do with this calcs
 
Joe_goldberb said:
the wood is old is not my debunk that’s a terrible argument it’s
# DEXTER AND A REDNECK the feat happens here

Redneck’s head height: 18-20cm (i will use 20cm for a highball) or 263px (red)

20cm ÷ 263px = 0.07604562737cm per each px

Plank’s height: 197px • 0.07604562737 = 14.9809885932cm (green)

14.9809885932cm • 3 = 44.9429657796cm

Plank’s thickness: 19px • 0.07604562737 = 1.44486692015cm or 0.0144486692015m (blue)

Splintered area: 1.44486692015cm • 44.9429657796cm = 64.9366045484cm² or 6,493.66045484mm²

Shear strength:

Force: 6,493.66045484mm² • 10.3MPa = 66,884.7026849N (lowball)

6,493.66045484mm² • 13.8MPa = 89,612.5142768N (highball)

Energy: 66,884.7026849N • 0.0144486692015m = 966.394943735J (lowball)

89,612.5142768N • 0.0144486692015m = 1,294.7815751J (highball)

# CONCLUSION**966 - 1,294 joules **Street lvl (9-C) if you do not think this is valid here’s another calc for it
Dexter bursts through planks
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Feat here.
-
Redneck's height on screen: 1419 px
I can't find anything on his actual height so I'll take the average male height, 1.7 m or 170 cm.
170 / 1419 = 0.11980267794 cm per px
-
Planks height: 947 px
947 * 0.11980267794 = 113.453136009 cm (i'll say inbetween each plank there's at least a 2 cm gap which would be 56.7265680045 cm)
-
Planks: length: 49 px
49 * 0.11980267794 = 5.87033121906 cm
-
For the breakage I'll take 1 cm as the average.
-
56.7265680045 * 5.87033121906 * 1 = 333.003743107 cc
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Planks are usually made of timber) which has a shear strength of 9.3 MPa.
-
333.003743107 * 9.3 = 3096.9348109 joules
-
(Street Level)
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You’re not doing the fragmentation correctly. Plus you have no scans. Also please discuss this in the verse discussion thread and not a content revision thread.
 
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