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Supernatural Multiverse/timelines relationship upgrade?



The Multiverse is considered to be a “quantum construct” that’s like a house of cards. After God made the prime universe, he still felt the need to make more, so he kept creating more universes till he lost count, since the Multiverse is a quantum construct you can argue that there are infinite universes.

These alternate universes universes can be accessible via portals/rifts, which are stated to be tears in space and time, which implies that these alternate universes also have their own space time continuum (possibly 4).



So there are arguably an infinite number of universes, and inside each of these universes there are infinite timelines, this forms a hierarchy of infinity that goes beyond simple countable infinity.

When you talk about infinite universes, and within each universe, infinite timelines, you’re essentially describing a hierarchy of infinities. This concept is related to set theory and the idea of cardinality. The infinity of the set of real numbers (or the continuum) is a higher order of infinity than the set of natural numbers, and what you’re describing seems to be even more complex, suggesting a level of infinity that is uncountable.

this would mean there are uncountably infinite amounts of 2-C structures in the Multiverse. So the multiverse would be uncountably infinitely greater than a average Low 2-C structure, thus scaling it to Low 1-C

Heaven


Heaven serves as a destination for deserving human souls after death. They originally would occupy the happy memories they experienced on Earth, reliving them in their own personal Heavens. Because of how Heaven was structured, Ash described it as more akin to Disneyland, without all the anti-Semitism.

"See, you gotta stop thinking of Heaven as one place. It’s more like a butt-load of places all crammed together. Like Disneyland except without all the anti-Semitism. – Ash, 5.16 Dark Side of the Moon”
Heaven has access to the entire Multiverse, allowing Dean to take a detour through alternate universes while driving through Heaven and to manifest physically in one despite still being dead.

In order to get to heaven you keep to transcend physical reality or the material plane.



It’s backed up by a screenwriter of the son shows that heaven is shown to be a higher plane above the material world:


ash uses string theory as a practical use in heaven to keep track in angels and that angels and souls have strings.




This is supported by angels being described as a "multi-dimensional wavelength of celestial intent" which could be interpreted as a profound, universal force or energy that operates across multiple dimensions and carries a purposeful or intentional aspect from a cosmic or divine origin.

String theory can get to 11th-dimensional. And considering angels power heaven, heaven should scale to at least High 1-C going off this.
 
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The extra dimensions in string theory are compressed dimensions and therefore not suitable for tier 1.
 
Just passing by this thread but

When you talk about infinite universes, and within each universe, infinite timelines, you’re essentially describing a hierarchy of infinities. This concept is related to set theory and the idea of cardinality. The infinity of the set of real numbers (or the continuum) is a higher order of infinity than the set of natural numbers, and what you’re describing seems to be even more complex, suggesting a level of infinity that is uncountable
Do you have evidences to back up thay there are infinite timelines within each universe?, cause from the OP, i only see the quantum multiversal thing


String theory can get to 11th-dimensional. And considering angels power heaven, heaven should scale to at least High 1-C going off this.
Vague mention of string theory not gonna get you High 1-C, also string theory have many variation, thr lowest is 10 dimensional and the highest is 26 dimensional, the 11 dimensional one is M-Theory. There is also the problem of string dimensions being compactified or not to rate
 
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Just passing by this thread but


Do you have evidences to back up thay there are infinite timelines within each universe?, cause from the OP, i only see the quantum multiversal thing



Vague mention of string theory not gonna get you High 1-C, also string theory have many variation, thr lowest is 10 dimensional and the highest is 26 dimensional, the 11 dimensional one is M-Theory. There is also the problem of string dimensions being compactified or not to rate
I will probably make a User Blog, because their are actual non-compressed timelines thar can support the universes.
 
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I will probably make a User Blog, because their are actual non-compressed timelines thar can support the universes.
Compressed or noncompressed timeline is, ngl, irrelevant, since the string is referring to Angels' soul, not the underlying dimensions of the universe
 


The Multiverse is considered to be a “quantum construct” that’s like a house of cards. After God made the prime universe, he still felt the need to make more, so he kept creating more universes till he lost count, since the Multiverse is a quantum construct you can argue that there are infinite universes.
It is already accepted that the SPN multiverse consists of an infinite number of universes.
These alternate universes universes can be accessible via portals/rifts, which are stated to be tears in space and time, which implies that these alternate universes also have their own space time continuum (possibly 4).
Every universe already has own space-time automatically.


So there are arguably an infinite number of universes, and inside each of these universes there are infinite timelines, this forms a hierarchy of infinity that goes beyond simple countable infinity.
Where did you get that from? None of this even imps that there are an infinite number of timelines in the universe. And that the place traveled through these portals is another UNIVERSE.
When you talk about infinite universes, and within each universe, infinite timelines, you’re essentially describing a hierarchy of infinities. This concept is related to set theory and the idea of cardinality. The infinity of the set of real numbers (or the continuum) is a higher order of infinity than the set of natural numbers, and what you’re describing seems to be even more complex, suggesting a level of infinity that is uncountable.

this would mean there are uncountably infinite amounts of 2-C structures in the Multiverse. So the multiverse would be uncountably infinitely greater than a average Low 2-C structure, thus scaling it to Low 1-C
As I said above, this is not the case.
In order to get to heaven you keep to transcend physical reality or the material plane.

There is no real transcendental relationship between Heaven and Earth. Throughout the series, it is not referred to as a transcendent realm, but as a realm within the same universe, only higher up. And it can be accessed through gates.
It’s backed up by a screenwriter of the son shows that heaven is shown to be a higher plane above the material world:

This is not really a valid scans.
ash uses string theory as a practical use in heaven to keep track in angels and that angels and souls have strings.




This is supported by angels being described as a "multi-dimensional wavelength of celestial intent" which could be interpreted as a profound, universal force or energy that operates across multiple dimensions and carries a purposeful or intentional aspect from a cosmic or divine origin.

String theory can get to 11th-dimensional. And considering angels power heaven, heaven should scale to at least High 1-C going off this.
As I said before, The extra dimensions in string theory are compressed dimensions and therefore not suitable for tier 1.

I disagree.
 
I have to agree with Arrow. But even if this was sufficient, we'd need a source for these two scans as the majority of Supernatural books are considered non-canonical.

Heaven doesn't access different universes in Dark Side of The Moon, it accesses different aspects and events in a person's life, like Sam's favourite Thanksgiving. It also makes no sense for Heaven to access the entire multiverse because A) it heavily contradicts the finale of The Winchesters, B) Apocalypse world explicitly has its own event sequences, Heaven, Divine Host and magic rules, with Enochian magic handcuffs not working on Lucifer in the season 13 finale because of this. We even see that the universe in The French Mistake has no magic beyond very limited dimensional access, meaning Heaven literally can't exist there, C) as we see in Lebanon and My Heart Will Go On, both Heaven and Angels are affected by changes to the timeline of the universe, and D) Death-Billie wouldn't have had trouble accessing the multiverse.

However, what I think is interesting is that different worlds have vastly different laws of physics. I've heard you can get Low 1-C from this.
 
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Also, it makes no sense for Heaven to access the entire multiverse when Divine Hosts of other dimensions (like Apocalypse World) have their own Heavens.
In Carry On, Bobby Singer reveals that after Jack became the new God, he, with castiel’s assistance, reformed Heaven into their ideal vision of what it always should have been. So heaven now has access to the multiverse.
 
Heaven was formerly a bunch of isolated domains where each soul has its own perfect spot. The Heaven from Carry On is that same Heaven, but there's no isolation, meaning it's basically Earth but everyone has the choice of visiting each other.

There's no multiversal access. This is why Dean entered an Akrida portal in Heaven to access the multiverse.
 
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Moriah
  • CHUCK: I don't know. Kinda lost count. Most of them are boring. One's in reverse. In one, there's no yellow. One – One of them's just all squirrels.
Galaxy Brain
  • CHUCK: Nah. Not yet. You know, unwinding whole worlds, some take a snap, but others are more complex. They’ll need more time. Attention.
Add to that, the different magic laws I mentioned. Magic is portrayed as a fundamental aspect of the universe, so universes that have different magic or no magic would have to operate on different overall principles in some regard.
 
I was already thinking of doing an update to the Supernatural multiverse, because, in fact, there are level 1-A things or at least possibly in the verse. And I wanted to address them, of course we would also have to address the existence of greater dimension of the Angels, which is mentioned at least a couple of times by reliable sources.

But the tests here are kind of vague, maybe we can fix it and try to do the update later in a more polished way, since you can't even see the images. If you want we can work together for this.

At least for the moment I don't agree with it.
 
Vague mention of string theory not gonna get you High 1-C, also string theory have many variation, thr lowest is 10 dimensional and the highest is 26 dimensional, the 11 dimensional one is M-Theory. There is also the problem of string dimensions being compactified or not to rate
Yeah if anything I think it just supports the premise Heaven is Higher D
 
Who need scans? That's something only a hater demands.
 
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