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Resident Evil Discussion Thread

While on the topic of Resident Evil animated movies, are there any decent feats and such from them that could be useful? Assuming they are all canon, that is.
 
TartaChocholate said:
Yeah, I get what you mean. This is not a 100% fact, but I am under the impression the original games through RE8 are one continuity and the Remakes are another continuity doing their own thing. Both continuities run alongside each other but the Remake one doesn't really overwrite the older games that have been remade.

I legit didn't know about the movie, though. I brought something like that? If so there must have been a misunderstanding.
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My bad I just confused you with AnonymousStandUser who said this below:

AnonymousStandUser said:
As of right now, no. But that might change considering that RE Death Island is a canon animated movie but also shows REmake 3 footage
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If this is true, I think we need to reconsider the canonicity of RE. Maybe there is only one timeline and the Remakes replace the originals. Or maybe there are two as already accepted, but the Death Island movie is canon to the Remake timeline.
 
Ser_Hakim_Dayne said:
If this is true, I think we need to reconsider the canonicity of RE. Maybe there is only one timeline and the Remakes replace the originals. Or maybe there are two as already accepted, but the Death Island movie is canon to the Remake timeline.
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I like to think the Remakes are supplementary canon, like how there's novels and comics of video games that retell the same story but with added context.

Just watched the opening to RE Death Island again and yeah, footage of REmake 2 and 3 are used to showcase Claire and Jill
 
AnonymousStandUser said:
I like to think the Remakes are supplementary canon, like how there's novels and comics of video games that retell the same story but with added context.

Just watched the opening to RE Death Island again and yeah, footage of REmake 2 and 3 are used to showcase Claire and Jill
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To be fair it IS the best looking footage so ofc theh would use than rather than reanimating new footage or using outdated game visuals.

Like it only makes sense they would do that outside of any kind of canonicty standpoint its the cheapest options without it looking out of place so I do think we're looking into it too much
 
AnonymousStandUser said:
Just watched the opening to RE Death Island again and yeah, footage of REmake 2 and 3 are used to showcase Claire and Jill
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Dalesean027 said:
To be fair it IS the best looking footage so ofc theh would use than rather than reanimating new footage or using outdated game visuals.

Like it only makes sense they would do that outside of any kind of canonicty standpoint its the cheapest options without it looking out of place so I do think we're looking into it too much
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Well, is it still enough to include Death Island in the Remake timeline?
 
AnonymousStandUser said:
What are your opinions on using scaling from the novelisation of certain games (Notably RE5 and Umbrella Chronicles) ?
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I have no idea what they are, but I guess to rattle off a few questions (in order of significance):

1. Are they officially licensed by Capcom?
2. Are they mostly in line with the events in the game?
3. Are they written by someone who was a part in the games development team?

If they follow the first 2, then they should qualify for secondary canon, at least. If it meets the 3rd, then it could definitely be considered just canon in general.
 
Da3ggman said:
I have no idea what they are, but I guess to rattle off a few questions (in order of significance):

1. Are they officially licensed by Capcom?
2. Are they mostly in line with the events in the game?
3. Are they written by someone who was a part in the games development team?

If they follow the first 2, then they should qualify for secondary canon, at least. If it meets the 3rd, then it could definitely be considered just canon in general.
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1. Yes, especially the ones I linked, Capcom licenced out some of their games to have a novelisation. RE5 in particular, the novel was included the RE5 Kaitai Shinsho (An official guidebook published by Capcom)

2. Yes, they don't necessarily add any new content that isn't portrayed in the game, they are mostly just retellings of the game with added context (Like Sheva's backstory)

3. No but it should have been overshadowed by Hiroyuki Kobayashi (I say 'should' because I'm mostly regurgitating what is being said in the RE fandom wiki)
 
AnonymousStandUser said:
1. Yes, especially the ones I linked, Capcom licenced out some of their games to have a novelisation. RE5 in particular, the novel was included the RE5 Kaitai Shinsho (An official guidebook published by Capcom)

2. Yes, they don't necessarily add any new content that isn't portrayed in the game, they are mostly just retellings of the game with added context (Like Sheva's backstory)

3. No but it should have been overshadowed by Hiroyuki Kobayashi (I say 'should' because I'm mostly regurgitating what is being said in the RE fandom wiki)
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Okay then, it should be good to go as far as additions to the main timeline.
 
Alright. I think we're ready for an upgrade/ revision on Resident Evil. Calcs that upgrade/ support the verse have been accepted/ evaluated so I want to go over potential additions, upgrades and downgrades to characters through multiple comments. Is that cool with you guys ?
 
AnonymousStandUser said:
Alright. I think we're ready for an upgrade/ revision on Resident Evil. Calcs that upgrade/ support the verse have been accepted/ evaluated so I want to go over potential additions, upgrades and downgrades to characters through multiple comments. Is that cool with you guys ?
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Yeah better have everything discussed first so we're all on the same page, we should start though by gathering all the newly accepted blogs and such
 
Dalesean027 said:
Yeah better have everything discussed first so we're all on the same page, we should start though by gathering all the newly accepted blogs and such
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Alright, let's do this.

AP calcs supporting/ upgrading character's physicals​

  • Mia throwing Ethan through a wall 2.42 Megajoules - Scales to Ethan Winters and Jack Baker
  • Ustanak running through reinforced concrete 0.222 Tons of TNT (Blog says 0.16 tons of TNT but frag value of reinforced concrete changed to 13.8 j/cc) - Scales to Ustanak and Jake Muller (Obviously), should scale to the other playable RE6 characters, might also scale to the other characters that are not in RE6 (Notably Jill Valentine)
  • Chris punches a boulder 778 kilojoules, Unfortunately doesn't upscale lifting strength

AP calcs supporting/ upgrading guns​

Speed calcs supporting/ upgrading/ downgrading characters​

  • Claire dodges a sniper bullet 0.00469 seconds - Downgrades Claire's combat and reaction speed from supersonic to subsonic+, should also apply to Leon (I will talk about how I would implement this later)
  • Jill dodges missiles Mach 2.5 to 7.57 - Upgrades Jill from supersonic to hypersonic combat and reaction speed (I will also talk about how I would implement this later plus who it also scales to)
  • Chris dodges point blank bullets 0.00098976961 seconds - Supersonic+ combat and reaction speed
  • Wesker outruns a mine explosion Mach 18.85 to 20.04 - Upgrades Wesker's speed from hypersonic to hypersonic+
  • Wesker dodges electricity Mach 82.7 - Gives Wesker high hypersonic+ reactions
  • Cerberus running at 27 miles per hour (Not a calc BUT...) Downgrades character's running speed from superhuman to peak human (There's no evidence for Leon outrunning a tyrant, or at least one that's linked to the profile)

Durability​

I want to talk about powers and abilities later but we should discuss this first
 
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AnonymousStandUser said:
Alright, let's do this.

AP calcs supporting/ upgrading character's physicals​

  • Mia throwing Ethan through a wall 2.42 Megajoules - Scales to Ethan Winters and Jack Baker
  • Ustanak running through reinforced concrete 0.222 Tons of TNT (Blog says 0.16 tons of TNT but frag value of reinforced concrete changed to 13.8 j/cc) - Scales to Ustanak and Jake Muller (Obviously), should scale to the other playable RE6 characters, might also scale to the other characters that are not in RE6 (Notably Jill Valentine)
  • Chris punches a boulder 778 kilojoules, Unfortunately doesn't upscale lifting strength

AP calcs supporting/ upgrading guns​

Speed calcs supporting/ upgrading/ downgrading characters​

  • Claire dodges a sniper bullet 0.00469 seconds - Downgrades Claire's combat and reaction speed from supersonic to subsonic+, should also apply to Leon (I will talk about how I would implement this later)
  • Jill dodges missiles Mach 2.5 to 7.57 - Upgrades Jill from supersonic to hypersonic combat and reaction speed (I will also talk about how I would implement this later plus who it also scales to)
  • Chris dodges point blank bullets 0.00098976961 seconds - Supersonic+ combat and reaction speed
  • Wesker outruns a mine explosion Mach 18.85 to 20.04 - Upgrades Wesker's speed from hypersonic to hypersonic+
  • Wesker dodges electricity Mach 82.7 - Gives Wesker high hypersonic+ reactions
  • Cerberus running at 27 miles per hour (Not a calc BUT...) Downgrades character's running speed from superhuman to peak human (There's no evidence for Leon outrunning a tyrant, or at least one that's linked to the profile)

Durability​

I want to talk about powers and abilities later but we should discuss this first
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Okay so the focus is only on OG timeline then for this CRT

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Wesker dodges minigun fire from point blank

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I have this but no one ever evaluated it, just additional hypersonic speed support
 
Dalesean027 said:
What's the justification in mind?
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I don't have much justification for Mother Miranda, or any other scientists being extraordinary geniuses, other than the fact there are futuristic technology developed in RE like Satellite lasers and rail cannons. The viruses, like the T-Virus and the Mold, could be considered futuristic technology.

For Mother Miranda, she has the most experience and knows everything about the Mold and its capabilities (Havent played Shadow of Rose yet, gotta ask someone else like @CodeCCLL for RE7 and 8 knowledge)

I brought this up hoping others have justifications, I'm not too knowledgeable on the intelligence rating
 
AnonymousStandUser said:
Gets to 5 ?
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My bad, that was part of a message I meant to delete.

But since you asked, I was talking about a feat in RE: The Umbrella Chronicles, where apparently this feat gets to a little over 5 times FTL when comparing the speed of the lasers to Chris and Jill’s bullets. These are also called literal beams of light in the novelization, and they have the properties of a laser, so they are almost undoubtedly light speed.

This oddly enough isn’t even the only feat like this, as Morpheus dodging the particle accelerator canon gets to about 97% SOL (with Vzearrs calc, but replacing the AK47 speed with 99.997% c, the speed of actual ones in real life). Apparently this one can also get to FTL according to my friend, since Morpheus can dodge the attack in like 30 different ways, but it’s still solid enough for now.

Apparently there’s some more stuff my friend is working on, but I figured I’d share the findings so far.
 
AnonymousStandUser said:
What do you guys think?
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Dalesean027 said:
What's the justification in mind?
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She possesses knowledge of the Megamycete, which has absorbed and stored the consciousness and DNA's of all people's that have lived and died in the region for an unknown period of time (I guess we can say "at least thousands of years" since they probably existed since the cave age) and the Megamycete kept this up for a hundred years. Finally, She found a way to resurrect people through Megamycete.
AnonymousStandUser said:
The viruses, like the T-Virus and the Mold, could be considered futuristic technology.
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Miranda's mold experiments are either at the peak of the genius level or at the extraordinary genius level. While it doesn't seem like Miranda gave them these powers willingly and they are a result of her experiments, the powers that Alcina and Heisenberg have can be given as examples of something futuristik things.

Note: For Shadow of Rose, Miranda's create the Masked Duke is interesting, but it's more hax than intelligence feat.
 
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Should've brought this up in the earlier comment.
The Progenitor virus has the ability to increase someone's intelligence, also the various puzzles in chapter 4 of RE5 are considered to be extremely intricate that even using modern technology to replicate it would be difficult. (Fandom translation, Project Umbrella translation, the original Japanese text can be found in the RE Fandom wiki)
Jobber C-Virus B.O.Ws, J'avos, are considered to be extremely intelligent (Although it's likely referring to how they can use weapons and coordinate with each other, which at best is Gifted)
 
CodeCCLL said:
She possesses knowledge of the Megamycete, which has absorbed and stored the consciousness and DNA's of all people's that have lived and died in the region for an unknown period of time (I guess we can say "at least thousands of years" since they probably existed since the cave age) and the Megamycete kept this up for a hundred years. Finally, She found a way to resurrect people through Megamycete
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Neither of these are remotely EG, and the latter doesn't mean much without being told how difficult it is to do said thing so its pretty baseless as a justification

CodeCCLL said:
Miranda's mold experiments are either at the peak of the genius level or at the extraordinary genius level. While it doesn't seem like Miranda gave them these powers willingly and they are a result of her experiments, the powers that Alcina and Heisenberg have can be given as examples of something futuristik things.
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Still not EG feat here either, there are people who are genuis who have also given others powers through experimentation
 
Da3ggman said:
But since you asked, I was talking about a feat in RE: The Umbrella Chronicles, where apparently this feat gets to a little over 5 times FTL when comparing the speed of the lasers to Chris and Jill’s bullets. These are also called literal beams of light in the novelization, and they have the properties of a laser, so they are almost undoubtedly light speed
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This isn't them reacting to the lasers themself, they are reacting to the speed of whatever the machine is aiming the lasers which itself isn't SoL, the lasers have already been fired at that point so its like you wouldn't say I'm speed of light because I can spin around while holding a laser pointer
Da3ggman said:
This oddly enough isn’t even the only feat like this, as Morpheus dodging the particle accelerator canon gets to about 97% SOL (with Vzearrs calc, but replacing the AK47 speed with 99.997% c, the speed of actual ones in real life). Apparently this one can also get to FTL according to my friend, since Morpheus can dodge the attack in like 30 different ways, but it’s still solid enough for now.
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This by itself is just a outlier if they even consider it a valid particle beam
 
Dalesean027 said:
This isn't them reacting to the lasers themself, they are reacting to the speed of whatever the machine is aiming the lasers which itself isn't SoL, the lasers have already been fired at that point so its like you wouldn't say I'm speed of light because I can spin around while holding a laser pointer
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He was talking about how fast the bullets in comparison to T-A.L.O.S's laser (The laser is shown travelling while the bullets are portrayed to be instant) but either way it's still an outlier (But really funny to think RE bullets are FTL)
 
Dalesean027 said:
the latter doesn't mean much without being told how difficult it is to do said thing so its pretty baseless as a justification
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If you're talking about how difficult it is to resurrect a person once you have all their knowledge, that's fair, but I'm also curious about what you think of a "possibly extraordinary genius" rating.
Dalesean027 said:
Still not EG feat here either, there are people who are genuis who have also given others powers through experimentation
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Extraordinary Genius is for geniuses beyond real life geniuses, yes experiments about mind control is not a very helpfull here, but the powers that Alcina and Heisenberg have far exceed real life human limits.
 
AnonymousStandUser said:
He was talking about how fast the bullets in comparison to T-A.L.O.S's laser (The laser is shown travelling while the bullets are portrayed to be instant) but either way it's still an outlier (But really funny to think RE bullets are FTL)
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I see lol I missed that part, that would be wild then💀💀😭
CodeCCLL said:
Extraordinary Genius is for geniuses beyond real life geniuses, yes experiments about mind control is not a very helpfull here, but the powers that Alcina and Heisenberg have far exceed real life human limits.
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Most of our Geniuses on wiki are above irl genius by a wide margin anyways so that alone isn't like too crazy, heck there are people only gifted who have feats no irl person can pull off. Its all case by case
CodeCCLL said:
If you're talking about how difficult it is to resurrect a person once you have all their knowledge, that's fair, but I'm also curious about what you think of a "possibly extraordinary genius" rating.
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I'm not conviced at all because neither of justification you gave meant anything at all, I'm not saying its impossible or anything but you're gonna need actual justifications that are actually up to standards if you're gonna propose the rating
 
Dalesean027 said:
Most of our Geniuses on wiki are above irl genius by a wide margin
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Then I would think that the geniuses you mentioned (If theys really far superior to the real-life geniuses) should upgraded to extraordinary geniuses as well.
Dalesean027 said:
heck there are people only gifted who have feats no irl person can pull off. Its all case by case
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If we thought that real-life geniuses would not be able to what character you mentioned did even though they have the same resources/circumstances.., then the character in question should not only be gifted but at least be a genius.
 
Dalesean027 said:
This isn't them reacting to the lasers themself, they are reacting to the speed of whatever the machine is aiming the lasers which itself isn't SoL, the lasers have already been fired at that point so its like you wouldn't say I'm speed of light because I can spin around while holding a laser pointer
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Dalesean027 said:
I see lol I missed that part, that would be wild then💀💀😭
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Like Anonymous said, the calc is based on how long it takes for the bullets to travel a distance vs the lasers traveling that distance, not them reacting to the lasers themselves. And yeah, it's wild lol.
Dalesean027 said:
This by itself is just a outlier if they even consider it a valid particle beam
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Yeah, it'd definitely be an outlier by itself, but that's kind of why I included the other feat. Just trying to gather up feats for now to help support it.

As for whether its valid, the description says it "Accelerates and fires charged particles" (both in the English and Japanese), which lines up exactly with how they are in the real world; I think the meaning is pretty self explanatory to be an actual ones.
 
The way I understand the rating system on intelligence is this:
Gifted is the equivalent of real life geniuses and prodigies
Genius is characters that are stated to be intelligent (Like Shikamru and his 200 IQ), or have multiple showcases of the character being intelligent (Think Solid Snake being able to figure out the helicopter model from just the sound of its rotary blades alone in MGS2)
Extraordinary Genius is characters that can make time machine out of a microwave...
 
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