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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

So Sarada's ability seems to be similar to Kamui

Man I hope it at least has something to make it special in comparison

Kamui is GOATED but I don't want her to just have a Kamui 2.0 ya know?
 
I don't really have a lot of time to argue this point, and since it's basically gonna be something we'll have to wait and see on anyway, I'll leave it at this.

my opinion is still that all of the Shinju besides Jura are relative with different abilities due to their hosts.

and that most of the important characters will be given means to not instantly die to people at that level.

if Bug had a Rasengan dropped on his shoulder while he wasn't paying attention, was hit by a partial charged Uzuhiko, or hit with a Chidori/Chidori stream by Sarada, I think he would take the same damage as Hidari.

if Hidari, was standing in front of Boruto and zapped by the same jutsu that Boruto used on Bug, I think he would also probably be fine too.

its Jura > Boruto > the Other Shinju >~ Everyone else (not referring to Eida, Daemon, Code or Kawaki whenever he gets buffed btw)

however the "everyone else" will still be capable of defending themselves to an extent which will inevitably given them some form of Tier 5 scaling, whether through a downscale or a 1-to-1 scale.

We'll see if that take holds up, I don't mind the other interpretations but I also just don't believe Ike is putting as much thought into how certain character interactions will affect the powerscaling rn.

Taking more of a Marineford OP approach to things.

so yeah I'll leave it at that.
 
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AnimesFreak2 said:
So Sarada's ability seems to be similar to Kamui
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I disagree. The “Swirls” on the sphere were from the sand swirling into it and it was attracting Iron Sand from the entire area, not localized like Kamui.
AnimesFreak2 said:
Man I hope it at least has something to make it special in comparison
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I’m hoping it’s going to be made equivalent to a Black Hole tbh… 😓 And “Somehow” it might heal Yodo… 🤷‍♂️
AnimesFreak2 said:
Kamui is GOATED but I don't want her to just have a Kamui 2.0 ya know?
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100% agree.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Ok, so with Context, it’s more clear. Yodo could “somehow” hear the the Power of her MS that she was subconsciously holding back (Likely because Sarada’s emotional state was changing given the situation with Mitsuki and Araya being captured, Yodo fatally wounded and the remembrance of what Sumire said about not knowing anything about Boruto—Uchiha genes are Uchiha-ing) And from there she assumes it’s because Sarada wanted to use it.

Jura either can see whatever the Shinju see or sense whatever they feel (Likely similar to Ninshuu in how Naruto and everyone could see Obito’s Thoughts and Memories when connected to his Chakra).

Would Konohamaru’s feat be considered an “Off-Guard” feat and thus unscalable? (Granted I believe since Matsuri is featless, her “Durability” should scale below his AP seeing as a standard Rasengan completely shredded her hands).

I really believe it’s just better for us to scale the Shinju solely based on their own feats for now because rn, it really feels like the “Strongest” is Bug (Obviously not counting Jura).
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Konohamaru's feat is obviously off-guard.
Plus Shinju physiology is weird. Their bodies can harden and soften depending on their control. One moment Boruto can cut the arms of Hidari with Kusanagi, next Hidari harden his arms to clash evenly with Kusanagi.
 
Btw, just so we can nip this in the bud, what is the standard for “Black Hole” acceptance on the wiki, incase next chapter it is shown to be a “Black Hole”.

Because i know a lot of characters in fiction utilize “Black Hole” type abilities, but they aren’t accepted on the Wiki as legit “Black Holes”.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
My first thought when I saw Sarada's MS ability was Gojo's usage of Blue in Hidden Inventory
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same ngl

my current copium would be a gojo type blue and red relationship between her eyes.

an actual spatial manip user that isn't just spawning portals or becoming incorporeal would be cool

something like Gojo or Law
 
I wonder why Sasuke's Legged Susanoo is so much bigger than Madara's
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MinatoSparkle said:
I wonder why Sasuke's Legged Susanoo is so much bigger than Madara's
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maybe the size wasn't support to matter too much cause Madara's armored Susanoo is bigger than this Sasukes armored susanoo

and iirc EMS Madara's Perfect Susanoo is bigger than Six Paths Sasuke's.
 
Godernet said:
maybe the size wasn't support to matter too much cause Madara's armored Susanoo is bigger than this Sasukes armored susanoo

and iirc EMS Madara's Perfect Susanoo is bigger than Six Paths Sasuke's.
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Perhap
Ghostimuscrime said:
Sasuke’s using his armoured susano, Madara’s armoured susano is 75% of his perfect Susano
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Nah, this is just the Full Body Humanoid Susanoo, Sasuke's Armored Susanoo looks like Itachi's
 
since I know how much ikemoto hates making kaijus, I hope we see Sarada use Susano'o as an armor much like the fanart we've seen for Sasuke
 
i dont think he likes big shots at all and tries to avoid them if possible and considering the fact that kishi had stated in the early years of boruto the manga's fights are gonna be scaled down compared to naruto, i dont think feel like ikemoto's a fan of it tbh.

also considering the versus momoshiki arc was just an adaptation of the movie and the only other time we got it was briefly against Jigen just for them to get one-shot within the same chapter, that's just the hunch i get. im sure when the plot calls for it he'll do it but if he can avoid it he probably will
 
DavidTPPM said:
Opening Twitter was like going to a different dimension lmao.
I finished reading thinking "Damn Sarada and Konohamaru are goated, what a good chapter" just for the first tweet I see to be "this is the most pathetic writing for s female character I have ever seen"
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Twitter doesnt actually know women exist irl btw
 
Just finished the chapter. It was good. New exposition incoming next chapter hopefully. This chapter confirmed that Konohamaru not letting Matsuri call him "chan" was in fact NOT a layered plan. And he managed to not finish the job this chapter as well. However I can't trash him too much since

1) He showed the ability to retain the information that Shikamaru gave him and execute the plan somewhat (baby steps).

2) He managed to neg her hands with his Rasengan which is pretty good in my books because imo you can't be both weak AND dumb. You have to pick a struggle. People always say Naruto or Shikamaru aren't fit to be Hokage and I disagree for this very reason. And if Konohamaru can at least be useful in a fight with god tiers then good enough for me.

Still didn't finish the job tho. Bro got the Schrodinger's W this chapter.
 
The context was that Karma causing a reaction in Codes' body, and the outcome made him much stronger than Jigen.

And that they had to put limiters on his body to suppress his power not to undermine Jigen authority.

It’s not exactly specific enough to make a definite claim between the two but the phrasing makes it seem like his body itself had gained extraordinary power rather than only when he's using his Karma.

Bug also reiterated that "he's regained his power that surpassed Jigen." while standing in front of Base Code.
 
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idk about kaijus but we know he has ptsd form drawing all those shadow clones for naruto, which is why naruto uses shadow clones in large numbers very rarely these days.
 
Godernet said:
The context was that Karma caused a reaction in Codes' body, and the outcome made him much stronger than Jigen.

And that they had to put limiters on his body to suppress his power not to undermine Jigen authority.

It’s not exactly specific enough to make a definite claim between the two but the phrasing makes it seem like his body itself had gained extraordinary power rather than only when he's using his Karma.

Bug also reiterated that "he's regained his power that surpassed Jigen." while standing in front of Base Code.
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According to Amado, the reaction took place in his “body”.


Then his “body” not his karma was remodified to put his strength in check.


Additionally, when he was restored, it became evident that there was a physical transformation in his body, suggesting that the limitations had been imposed on his physical form.


Code saying he “feels” like he cant lose to anyone while in base.


Code also mentioned that previously there was a limit to the number of claw marks he could produce at once. However, the restored version of him (No limiter) is now capable of generating more than enough to cover the 10 tails entirely. He referred to this as a feat that was once considered “impossible,”.
 
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Samlex1234 said:

According to Amado, the reaction took place in his “body”.


Then his “body” not his karma was remodified to put his strength in check.


Additionally, when he was restored, it became evident that there was a physical transformation in his body, suggesting that the limitations had been imposed on his physical form.


Code saying he “feels” like he cant lose to anyone while in base.


Code also mentioned that previously there was a limit to the number of claw marks he could produce at once. However, the restored version of him (No limiter) is now capable of generating more than enough to cover the 10 tails entirely. He referred to this as a feat that was once considered “impossible,”.
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Nobody is saying his body didn’t have a physical change. What is being said is his full power (Body + Karma) is what is > Jigen. Not just his base, and being in Base making a statement doesn’t ignore the context that it has been held that his FULL power is > Jigen.
  1. Bug’s full statement.
  2. Daemon’s Assessment after fighting “Full Power Code”.
  3. Shikamaru’s statement after talking with Amadou.
Again, each time the manga is driving home it’s Code’s “FULL POWER” that is greater than Jigen.
 
Yeah I agree it shouldn't scale to his base. They never give any solid specification that would say he's stronger in base and the statements that seen to specify more so point towards his full power.

Like Daemon says FP Code "seems" stronger than Jigen which would be weird if even his base was superior to him. It should be super obvious he's above
 
Nierre said:
👀 make the crt if convincing enough you could get it changed
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I’m lazy though… I do this in hopes of inspiring others to carry the torch. 😓

I gotta redo the Juubito thread because it’s a cluttered mess and the relevant info is buried within posts across the two pages.

I’m currently attempting to cook something else, might not see the light of day.

And then this would just be adding to that plate.

I probs will do a CRT for it, but it’ll have to wait. 🤷‍♂️
 
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