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Ben 10 General Discussion Thread

ABSOLUTE-ABSTRACT-KING said:
https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/File:AXT_Bens_are_not_Prime.png

And here's even an explanation
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... I don't see how that correlates? Yeah, the Ben's in AXT are not the Ben from the Classic Continuity... but i wasn't talking about AXT at all

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I wouldn't count Reboot here.
Is not like another universe like the Comics, RAT or videogames, but is literally a start from zero to the whole franchise, like if Ben prime never existed.

Of course Ben Prime still exists, But Reboot and Prime are practically two different franchises.
 
GeneralSol16 said:
I wouldn't count Reboot here.
Is not like another universe like the Comics, RAT or videogames, but is literally a start from zero to the whole franchise, like if Ben prime never existed.

Of course Ben Prime still exists, But Reboot and Prime are practically two different franchises.
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Not really? Is Reboot Ben ever called "Ben Prime"? Duncan seems adamant that both exist in the same multiverse
 
Success0906 said:
Sorry, just experimenting something.

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"Morty, look at me! I'm fighting a superhero!" | Ben 10 vs Rick Sanchez

After receiving a notification about a Kid having a watch so powerful that can destroy the universe, Rick would look after it so he can use it for his own goals. Ben Tennyson vs Rick Sanchez Equalized Speed. Battle takes place in R&M city, 5m from each other. Rick will have 24hrs of prep, and...
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Maybe I could try this again since most of Ben 10 is Tier 4 now.
 
Omegabronic said:
... I don't see how that correlates? Yeah, the Ben's in AXT are not the Ben from the Classic Continuity... but i wasn't talking about AXT at all

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As per my take, there are only 16 timelines in reboot and those 16 timelines are "all universes within the Omniverse"
 
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Ruby Rose vs Vilgax (Dragon Ball RWBY vs Ben 10)

Speed is equal Alien Force and Ultimate Alien Vilgax is being used Battle of Gods Ruby is being used Ruby starts the fight in Ultimate Fight takes place in Vale Ruby's AP: At least 105.3 GigaFoe in Ultimate. However, with her Aura it should allow Ruby to survive at least 7 hits from Vilgax...
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I made this match, now I made sure to post her win cons (Abilities that'll help her win against Vilgax) so you don't need to look at her profile (maybe)
 
Furthermore, Paradox states that Eon went to the past because Ben Prime was younger and less powerful, suggesting that defeating Ultimate Ben isn’t easy for him.
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Almost done with a quick CRT, but I can’t find a scan of Paradox saying this. I know he says it, but the closest I can find it in video form is Kuro’s breakdown of the Ben 10,000 Returns episode which sadly also cuts before the “younger and less powerful” part.

It’s probably not necessary to get my point across, but it would be nice to have as an extra.
 
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Ben 10 skill addition and minor replacement

Well, it's been a while since I posted anything, so here we are again! Since you already know the drill, let's just get straight to the point. Ultimate Big Chill: Ice Manipulation Enhanced and Plasma Manipulation: Can fire beams of plasma energy. Weather Manipulation: Ultimate Big Chill was...
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Omegabronic said:
... I don't see how that correlates? Yeah, the Ben's in AXT are not the Ben from the Classic Continuity... but i wasn't talking about AXT at all
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Well.......
Do you know that reboot shows 16 timelines as totality of omniverse.
When evil Alien X arrived in timeline of reboot Ben, he already had 10 omnitrixes (including one from his own timeline and 1 from timeline he attacked on screen), after that he took omnitrix from reboot Ben (total 11 omnitrixes). Later on when Maxmillian took UA counterpart to help AF counterpart, reboot Ben asked him to bring "all Bens" and they did it, which made total number of Bens 11+5=16, so this was all in the multiverse (there were only 16 Bens and 16 timelines). This is further backed up by Alien X's own statement that he was "so close" to his goal of proving that he can do anything alone to "entire Omniverse" (means those 16 timelines were all that was in the Omniverse).
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So prime Ben doesn't even exist in reboot
 
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So Addwaitya with the Alpha Rune can take a missile barrage from Ultimate Humungousaur, and he can also take hits from Gwen and Charmcaster while their magic is amped from being in Legerdomain, however these attacks all still harm him meaning he doesn’t physically scale to the Alpha Rune’s 2-A stuff while holding it.

Do Charmcaster or Zs’Skayr show any physical feats while in possession of the Alpha Rune? I wanna know if the Alpha Rune amps its users physically at all or if Addwaitya’s just built different.

Edit: Actually, I think Addwaitya powered up after he says “all magic is mine”, since he’s able to casually break Gwen’s mana shield and Charmcaster could get up from her own attack being redirected back at her before Addwaitya powered up (doesn’t make much sense for Charmcaster to be able to take an attack that can hurt an Ultimate Humungousaur level character so easily).
 
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So Addwaitya with the Alpha Rune can take a missile barrage from Ultimate Humungousaur, and he can also take hits from Gwen and Charmcaster while their magic is amped from being in Legerdomain, however these attacks all still harm him meaning he doesn’t physically scale to the Alpha Rune’s 2-A stuff while holding it.

Do Charmcaster or Zs’Skayr show any physical feats while in possession of the Alpha Rune? I wanna know if the Alpha Rune amps its users physically at all or if Addwaitya’s just built different.
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I doubt if Alpha Rune even scales to 2-A
 
Hellformer said:
I doubt if Alpha Rune even scales to 2-A
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I feel it’s at the very least a separate ability from its raw power and isn’t the same as typical magic, as I don’t see how something with absolute power over all magic would itself be magic. Considering it was made by Paradox, I could see it being like a magic/mana manipulation device that happens to also have a lot of mana within it to power its user. Though they do say its power over magic comes from it knowing its true name, and magic as a whole is based on knowing the true names of things, so maybe I’m wrong here.

As an aside I’m pretty sure the Alpha Rune’s raw power and magic control being synonymous makes no sense if you buy the “Ultimate Kevin absorbed the Map of Infinity” thing
 
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Made this CRT but I am so braindead tired, I forgot to post it here....
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A very small Ben 10 change

Hello and welcome back to another rework, This one should be pretty self-evident. Verse - Ben 10 Profile - Omnitrix From This Regeneration & Healing (Low-Godly; Can regenerate Ben and itself after being completely destroyed by Charmcaster's machine) To this Self-Resoration & Healing...
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Yeah, Good night. I need to sleep since my brain is already sleeping.
 
Btw a related question: are there any characters that have arguments to scale to either amped Eon or Ultimate Ben (including those without profiles)? I imagine powerful magicians/mana manipulators like Bezel, full power Anodites and base future Gwendolyn probably would, but are there any others?

Ghengiroo115 said:
Would love another universal argument for the top tiers
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(5:00-5:18) Wait, can Michael absorb the power of Ben’s aliens without him being transformed? Considering his later fight with Ghostfreak, it sounds to me like he directly absorbs the power of whatever form Ben is in at the time, but can also absorb the power of the aliens in the Omnitrix itself after Ben’s human form is drained.

As an aside, it’s interesting to me how Michael can absorb the power of Ultimate Kevin after it was transferred to the Dominus Librium, considering how his powers don’t affect beings with no life energy like Ghostfreak. I guess he can absorb any kind of power but only if it’s converted into energy?
 
Ghengiroo115 said:


(5:00-5:18) Wait, can Michael absorb the power of Ben’s aliens without him being transformed? Considering his later fight with Ghostfreak, it sounds to me like he directly absorbs the power of whatever form Ben is in at the time, but can also absorb the power of the aliens in the Omnitrix itself after Ben’s human form is drained.

As an aside, it’s interesting to me how Michael can absorb the power of Ultimate Kevin after it was transferred to the Dominus Librium, considering how his powers don’t affect beings with no life energy like Ghostfreak. I guess he can absorb any kind of power but only if it’s converted into energy?
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Omnitrix power is basically omni energy (that can transform ben into any alien). Kevin absorbed same energy at very beginning and became a living Omnitrix.
 
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