Mario vs... Mario...? (7-0-0)

[ZespeonGalaxy]

Wowie, two high 6-A' Marios going at it?

Both High 6-A
Both are fully equipped and get all items
Speed is equal
Zeekeeper and Power stars are restricted
Winner via ko/incap/death



Marcus: (7.29 petatons) zespeongalaxy, AStrangeverse O0DSF0o Flashlight237 Nierre AThe1412 Arkansalter2 (7)

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Both get consumed by galeem (incon):

 

[Dust_Collector]

That AP gap is pretty big, but being fully equiped with all items really makes this more interesting. Benefits normal Mario a lot more, which he'll need due to the stat gap, but super angry Mario (seriously why is he so pissed in smash lmao) gets some good stuff from his as well.

 

[koopa3144]

So, since both get all items Smash Mario can't kill Canon Mario cause of his Resurrection items but can pretty easily BFR Canon Mario with his attacks (Other Smashers have this on profile Mario just doesn't have it for some reason) due to the AP difference. Smash Mario doesn't resist Transmuation so that's a pretty big advantage for Canon Mario.

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

For Smash Mario:

+Invunerlability would shut down Gario (Game Mario) from physically hurting Sario (Smash Mario)
+AP Gap is much greater in comparison, so anything Sario throws would be lights out for Gario
+Could also heal but from parrying attacks (Which should include fireballs, boomerangs, and whatever projectile Gario can throw)
=Could also reflect projectiles with cape, or even shielding
-Might not be able to BFR Gario as he resists BFR?
-No revives or self resurrection


For Game Mario (Gario)
-Hard loses the AP stats
+Gario has several, speed amps and would make it hard for Sario to land any good hits.
+Could turn Sario into a coin as well as assist trophies.
+Able to nullify damage entirely with battle cards
+Resists time stop, has self perception with zone speed
+Could just become a ghost and Sario wont be able to do anything without NPI (which he foes not have)




Im thinking Game Mario takes this? I'll vote for him, (medium diff of a win) but willing for more input and possibly change my vote if smash mario has anything that outdoes game mario

 

[Flashlight237]

I mean, having had and played all the titles of the Super Smash Bros series, the items in the Smash Bros games are very restricted in their nature. You pretty much only expect them to do the one thing they're known for and that's it. As an example, the canon Mushroom alone is more versatile than the Smash Bros Mushroom.

Even items that are supposed to be legendary just exist. Dragoon just flies into an opponent, Daybreak just fires a laser one time, and the Star Rod (the Kirby series' first mystical weapon) just behaves like a normal fairy wand. Death's Scythe only works when someone is critically injured, but given the AP gap, it's impossible for either Mario to get to that point. The Black Hole does freaking nothing!

Probably the only item that got buffed from their original incarnation is the Poke Ball, which instead of being used to catch Pokemon allows summoning Pokemon on random, which could range from Goldeen (a dud) to legendaries and mythicals like Groudon, Giratina, and Arceus.

That's as much as I can tell you about the Smash items.

 

[Hypertornado099]

Smash Mario hits Mario and he dies

 

[Arkansalter2]

Giving this to Sario. That AP gap is legitimately something else.

 

[koopa3144]

I think I'm leaning towards game Mario rn. While Sario does have a large AP advantage, I'd say Gario should be able to avoid getting hit with Zone Speed and acrobatics, he can also just stop time with the Stopwatch or go intangible with the Boo Biscuit. Gario can pretty easily deal with Sario's Assist Trophy and Pokemon summons with Transmutation and has ways to take Sario's items from him. And even if Sario gets a good hit, there's a good chance it's gonna kill Gario and allow him to revive and go back to the start of the fight with Earlier Times/Retry Clock's and get the jump on Sario. Gario can also possess Sario with Cappy, summon his own ally's with the Ally Phone, weaken and shrink Sario with lighting, null Sario's damage with Guard Shell DX or Battle Cards, ect. So rn I see Gario taking this more often then not with his better hax and dodging skill.

 

[Hypertornado099]

I'd say Gario should be able to avoid getting hit with Zone Speed and acrobatics

Zone speed isn't something Mario always uses. Smash Mario has acrobatics too, and its not like Game Mario is untouchable with acrobatics

can also just stop time with the Stopwatch or go intangible with the Boo Biscuit.

True, but they're temporary, and something you can't prove Mario will spam or even use in this fight

And even if Sario gets a good hit, there's a good chance it's gonna kill Gario and allow him to revive and go back to the start of the fight with Earlier Times/Retry Clock's and get the jump on Sario

If this happens, Game Mario will just die again

weaken and shrink Sario with lighting

another item he probably won't use here

ull Sario's damage with Guard Shell DX or Battle Cards

He can't null damage from someone this much stronger.

Cappy is definitely something that will threaten Smash Mario, but I feel like it isn't enough for a win con

 

[koopa3144]

Zone speed isn't something Mario always uses.

That doesn't mean he won't use it if he needs too.

Smash Mario has acrobatics too, and its not like Game Mario is untouchable with acrobatics

Sario's acrobatics only comes from him being able to a basic flip mid-air and double jump. Gario's acrobatics are much better and grant him superior movement which will allow him to avoid Sario's attacks. It's also gonna be hard for Sario's to hit someone who can jump from several stories to the sky.

True, but they're temporary, and something you can't prove Mario will spam or even use in this fight

He has no real reason not to use his strongest items and it doesn't matter that the effect is temporary, all Gario needs is a single use of his Transmutation items to take out Sario.

If this happens, Game Mario will just die again

If he does come back with Earlier Times/Retry Clock's he would know that Sario's can one-shot him and would likely just cheese him with things like time stop and Transmutation to not risk getting one-shot.

He can't null damage from someone this much stronger.

Sario isn't infinite times stronger or something and Gario's damage null options haven't been shown to be limited to things comparable to him.

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

True, but they're temporary,

This isnt a factor with bottomless gloves doe

 

[O0DSF0o]

Voting Game Mario due to transmutation. Smash Mario has no counter to that as far as I’m aware

 

[AStrangeverse]

I'm seein greater chances for Gario here

votin him

 

[Flashlight237]

Man, Gario sure is different from Sario... And they're both different from... Tario...

GOnna go with Mario from the canon games here.

 

[Nierre]

gario FRA

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

Bump

 

[O0DSF0o]

If Mario, then only Bros!

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

bump

 

[AThe1412]

Canon Mario FRA.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Switching my vote to Gario due to better wincons. And thats grace.

 

[O0DSF0o]

Switching my vote to Gario due to better wincons. And thats grace.

can’t believe Mario killed Mario smh

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

So can this be added?

 

[Arkansalter2]

So can this be added?

Switching my vote to Gario due to better wincons. And thats grace.

Wait 24 hours after this msg.

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

alright, this can be added to both profiles and closed. Thank you all to those who participated!

 

[O0DSF0o]

Mario loves you very much

 

[O0DSF0o]

added to the profiles

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

added to the profiles

Bless, tysm.