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Ngl Narutos pain resistance is relatively weak compared to the shit other characters do.The hell, what kind of torture are they even doing to begin with?
Like every other shonen MC no sells organ damage on an average Tuesday night
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Ngl Narutos pain resistance is relatively weak compared to the shit other characters do.The hell, what kind of torture are they even doing to begin with?
Nah I think nard has decent tolerance, for example, kurama’s chakra is so toxic that it instantly burned orochimaru’s snakes when it touched the 4-tails clock, mind you these snakes are supposed to as strong as him in dura and nard is constantly being hit with that shit every second. Furthermore after neji blocked nards chakra paths, he was shocked and said it was insane that nard was still able to move with all that pain. Nard gets himself pinned with multiple rods and his still good, got hit with his own rasenshuriken still good. Gets hit and stabbed by supernaturally enhanced lightning and being freezed alive.Ngl Narutos pain resistance is relatively weak compared to the shit other characters do.
Like every other shonen MC no sells organ damage on an average Tuesday night
That’s normal for shinobi as well. They don’t even react most of the time when stuff like this happensOkay for context, an average rz warrior can fight through with their limbs cut off, bones broken, muscles torn apart, bleeding from every hole etc etc
Shinobi’s are trained assassins, they also have similar type of tolerances. Hell it’s more easier for them to peak into someone’s mind then torture the information out especially for high level ninjaAnd assassins have an even greater pain resistance (specifically trained to handle stuff like poisons, sliced to bits, torture etc) yet none worked because the moment they come under the effect, they basically broke instantly
That’s sounds like he can make them feel pain, rather then the pain being so great they start to feel itZombies who cannot feel pain, literally unphased from being burnt alive, smashed to bits etc were affected as well
I mean he definitely has good tolerance, I'm not saying he doesn't. It's just kidna average compared to a lot of charactersNah I think nard has decent tolerance,
Yeaaah but at a far lesser magnitude to where his body is not being noticeably harmed at all.for example, kurama’s chakra is so toxic that it instantly burned orochimaru’s snakes when it touched the 4-tails clock, mind you these snakes are supposed to as strong as him in dura and nard is constantly being hit with that shit every second.
That's definitely a solid willpower feat in general but not exactly a pain tolerance feat.Furthermore after neji blocked nards chakra paths, he was shocked and said it was insane that nard was still able to move with all that pain.
Yeah but again that's all pretty average willpower in shonen manga and similar forms of media. Every other MC from a fighting series walks off what would normally be almost fatal damage all the time.Nard gets himself pinned with multiple rods and his still good, got hit with his own rasenshuriken still good. Gets hit and stabbed by supernaturally enhanced lightning and walks it off
I agree.And in general shinobi have high pain tolerance like look at obito, he had half of his body crushed and he didn’t even scream, daidara lost both arms and was like “ehh it happens”, orochi was slit in half by kurama’s poisonous/corrosive chakra and he just smiled.
Didn't he get hospitalized for like 2 weeks and needed serious medical attention from Tsunade or something?Kakashi was being stabbed by itachi hundreds of times and he just took it all with out breaking.
Yeah but again, when Sasuke had his eye ripped out in Tsukuyomi he was pretty visibly in agony.Speaking of the uchihas, they have their eyes ripped out like every day
Now that is a good pain tolerance feat. The question is just, how intense is the pain? Is it like stubbing your toe but through the whole body is it it like having salt poured into an open wound through the whole body?and their susanoo causes pain from every cell in their body, and they don’t even react.
His skin burns offs as soon as he enter the cloak, and he does get burned visibly when the cloak is gone. Also he gets frozen alive and he does use boil release that boiles his bloodI mean he definitely has good tolerance, I'm not saying he doesn't. It's just kidna average compared to a lot of characters
Yeaaah but at a far lesser magnitude to where his body is not being noticeably harmed at all.
Didn't he get hospitalized for like 2 weeks and needed serious medical attention from Tsunade or something?
Yea, my badYeah but again, when Sasuke had his eye ripped out in Tsukuyomi he was pretty visibly in agony.
Now that is a good pain tolerance feat. The question is just, how intense is the pain? Is it like stubbing your toe but through the whole body is it it like having salt poured into an open wound through the whole body?
Yeah but that's only with the v2 cloak during which he's not even conscious.His skin burns offs as soon as he enter the cloak, and he does get burned visibly when the cloak is gone.
What? He raised his chakra to the boiling point and was trapped by ice, but I don't remember his blood boiling or him being literally frozen.Also he gets frozen alive and he does use boil release that boiles his blood
If you feel like that's enough pain resistance then you can make the matchupHis skin burns offs as soon as he enter the cloak, and he does get burned visibly when the cloak is gone. Also he gets frozen alive and he does use boil release that boiles his blood
been a solid minute since I refreshed my memory on nard
Yea, my bad
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Oops my bad it’s was his chakra that reached boiling point not his blood. In his fight with kaguya, she merged with her ice dimension and trapped nard with icebergs. Those icebergs slowly froze him, but he used boil release to escape and amp himself.What? He raised his chakra to the boiling point and was trapped by ice, but I don't remember his blood boiling or him being literally frozen.
question, how does his passive pain thing work?If you feel like that's enough pain resistance then you can make the matchup
But I just want to clarify that this much resistance is NOT enough and would still leave rz characters screaming in agony
I highly recommend you make the matchup if you think this works because a friend of mine was also interested in Eugard vs Naruto (he is a big Naruto fan)
he is a very lovely guy and somebody really hated how lovely he was so now whoever he loves will be affected by his passive pain manipulation the closer you get to him, Unfortunately for him unless you are a wolfperson or moleperson (because he is VERY racist) he will love you loads. He even loves his assassins whom he then beheads.Oops my bad it’s was his chakra that reached boiling point not his blood. In his fight with kaguya, she merged with her ice dimension and trapped nard with icebergs. Those icebergs slowly froze him, but he used boil release to escape and amp himself.
question, how does his passive pain thing work?
Would that not be negate by nard fear and madness manipulation. Making him fear and hate nard, if he doesn’t have resistance of coursehe is a very lovely guy and somebody really hated how lovely he was so now whoever he loves will be affected by his passive pain manipulation the closer you get to him, Unfortunately for him unless you are a wolfperson or moleperson (because he is VERY racist) he will love you loads. He even loves his assassins whom he then beheads.
This love is called the curse of thorns
Nope, upscales from Emilia who wasnt dead in the presence of witches and Reid Astrea (just being around them causes death from either fear or madness)Would that not be negate by nard fear and madness manipulation. Making him fear and hate nard, if he doesn’t have resistance of course
Nard should have layered fear manipulation but gotta make a crt for itNope, upscales from Emilia who wasnt dead in the presence of witches and Reid Astrea (just being around them causes death from either fear or madness)
he doesnt hate all half humans, only wolves and moles (btw his wife became a furry later onNard should have layered fear manipulation but gotta make a crt for it. Nard also has whisker so he can see him as sub-human and hate him
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Wouldn’t be surprising that Danzo hid his abilities from other. The other possibility it also likelyRemember that scene where Kakashi is like "Actually, Naruto, there's one other Wind Style specialist in Konoha."
There was another. Kakashi either lied to him so he didn't get close to Danzo, or Danzo actually managed to hide his Wind Style for that long.
could make him bloodlusted to the point he hates nardhe doesnt hate all half humans, only wolves and moles (btw his wife became a furry later on)
he is always bloodlusted in fights but he doesnt stop loving them...Wouldn’t be surprising that Danzo hid his abilities from other. The other possibility it also likely
could make him bloodlusted to the point he hates nard
Weirdohe is always bloodlusted in fights but he doesnt stop loving them...
he is a loving individual (disgustingly broken combo he has)Weirdo
If you wanna make a match between them, then you have to restrict his passive pain manipulation and nards kurama avater mode, ashura mode. Then there’s arguments for both sidehe is a loving individual (disgustingly broken combo he has)
why ashura mode? also i want to make a matchup which can be added so restricting abilities just isnt gonna workIf you wanna make a match between them, then you have to restrict his passive pain manipulation and nards biju mode, ashura mode. Then there’s arguments for both side
why ashura mode? also i want to make a matchup which can be added so restricting abilities just isnt gonna work
Cecilus could work, don’t see anything too brokenHow about trying Cecilus Segmunt or Halibel
just so you know he can dodge rain and sand particles....
Cecilus could work, don’t see anything too broken
Those are more of speed feet then skill basedjust so you know he can dodge rain and sand particles....
its not a speed feat, you can be immeasurable/infinite speed and still have no way of dodging sand particles in a sandstorm and raindrops in a rainstormThose are more of speed feet then skill based
Did he individually dodge every single grain of sand or as a whole. Cuz if your faster then light then things just essentially stop moving for you so dodging becomes so much easierits not a speed feat, you can be immeasurable/infinite speed and still have no way of dodging sand particles in a sandstorm and raindrops in a rainstorm
there isnt a gap between the particles in a sandstorm big enough for you to dodge it so no matter how frozen it is for you, you CANNOT dodge itDid he individually dodge every single grain of sand or as a whole. Cuz if your faster then light then things just essentially stop moving for you so dodging becomes so much easier
I read the profile, it says that he dodged so many projectiles that it was like rain drops or grains of sand. It’s not ment to be taken literally but figuratively. He was surrounded by all directions and hit with a absurdly high number of projectiles, like rain drops which are almost omni directional and manythere isnt a gap between the particles in a sandstorm big enough for you to dodge it so no matter how frozen it is for you, you CANNOT dodge it
that would be the case if he didnt actually also dodge raindrops, and doesnt scale to someone who ran through a rainstorm to a different city and back without letting a single drop of water land on him or the letter he was carryingI read the profile, it says that he dodged so many projectiles that it was like rain drops or grains of sand. It’s not ment to be taken literally but figuratively. He was surrounded by all directions and hit with a absurdly high number of projectiles, like rain drops which are almost omni directional and many
It shouldn’t pose a problem for nard since it’s just speed and mobility feet. You can make the match if you wantthat would be the case if he didnt actually also dodge raindrops, and doesnt scale to someone who ran through a rainstorm to a different city and back without letting a single drop of water land on him or the letter he was carrying
This isnt an isolated case here (this has happened so many times in the series) and he has also dodged a rain of light and a mist of light however you want to interpret the latter
It shouldn’t pose a problem for nard since it’s just speed and mobility feet. You can make the match if you want
They do? Especially the first one. Although anyways, there's also Ashura Avatar Naruto's Rasenshuriken being neutralized by Indra's Arrow, 3T Sick Itachi's Katon matching Kisame's Suiton despite them going toe to toe physically, and arguably this:Can you reference an instances where this is the case to support that notion? Only 2 come to mind:
And these don’t support your argument, unless I’m missing something.
- Kakuzu vs Kakashi (His Fire Style was Futon Enhanced)
- Madara vs SA (It wasn’t so much the intensity of the fire that required multiple Suton Users, it was the AoE)
I'm saying it doesn't prove them being vastly apart so idrc about itIdk how you got that interpretation of my statement. Konohamaru was literally dazed from the force of the thrust vs his Barrier after the Raiton was Neutralized. It’s a literal statement of fact.
Not particularlyIt shows we cannot scale the Shinju Ego’s completely over other significant characters “in all areas”.
When you say Jonin Minato, what do you mean by that?How do y'all feel about the idea of the Yellow Flash being Jonin Minato and not Hokage Minato
minato before he became hokage id assumeWhen you say Jonin Minato, what do you mean by that?
Before becoming Hokage?When you say Jonin Minato, what do you mean by that?
I wouldn’t mind it in its entirety since he was pretty glazed even pre kage statusHow do y'all feel about the idea of the Yellow Flash being Jonin Minato and not Hokage Minato
Uh that's not really what I meant. I mean statements talking about the Yellow Flash (like the 4th DB saying Raikage~Yellow Flash and the manga KCM Naruto~Yellow Flash statements) being in reference to Minato during the 3rd War, since that's when he was labelled with the nickname.I wouldn’t mind it in its entirety since he was pretty glazed even pre kage status
There’s a reason I asked the question I asked earlier. “Yellow Flash” is more of a nickname tied to Minato’s exceptional speed, rather than his position or status. The nickname wasn’t about his rank; it was about speed and combat prowess and that did not change when he became the Hokage.Uh that's not really what I meant. I mean statements talking about the Yellow Flash (like the 4th DB saying Raikage~Yellow Flash and the manga KCM Naruto~Yellow Flash statements) being in reference to Minato during the 3rd War, since that's when he was labelled with the nickname.
Seems like it is mostly associated with him during the warThere’s a reason I asked the question I asked earlier. “Yellow Flash” is more of a nickname tied to Minato’s exceptional speed, rather than his position or status. The nickname wasn’t about his rank; it was about speed and combat prowess and that did not change when he became the Hokage.
For instance, A day, or even a second, before Minato became Hokage, he was still a Jonin, and people would have recognized him as the “Yellow Flash” even as a Jonin who was about to become the Hokage, after Minato became Hokage, the nickname wouldn’t suddenly disappear because It had always been a recognition of his skill in battle, not his official position. Thus, even after he became Hokage, enemies who feared him wouldn’t stop associating him with the “Yellow Flash.” For example, if Hokage Minato were to step onto a battlefield, his enemies would still be terrified, saying, “Run, everyone, the Yellow Flash is here!” The name stuck because of his speed and reputation, not his title, similar to the Legendary Sanin, god of shinobi Etc.